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OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.

RareAcumen posted:

I wish there was a remedial comic book thread to catch people up on all the stupid decisions people have made, because the trainwrecks you guys have been mentioning so far sound very interesting.

BSS has several!

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




OldMemes posted:

BSS has several!

Could you give me a few links or name the threads? I'm kinda really interested in seeing how they messed up all the female characters over the years. Also, apparently Reed Richards is scumbag prime.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



RareAcumen posted:





Man, you're seeing some dumb people then. All I've ever seen of it is that it's a good thing mainly that she's not in the abusive relationship anymore. Like the one comic part where she's fighting Black Canary and she has to stop because she's got morning sickness and Harley goes into how she left to have her kid and the Joker didn't even notice she left.

everyone I speak to in my day to day life is totally unfamiliar with this and boy howdy am I glad of that

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

RareAcumen posted:

Could you give me a few links or name the threads? I'm kinda really interested in seeing how they messed up all the female characters over the years. Also, apparently Reed Richards is scumbag prime.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749767&pagenumber=26&perpage=40

This is a good place to start. Other weird stuff comes up in most of the discussion threads. DC discussion around the launch of the New 52 is probably archived by now, but I'm certain would be a hotbed.

Calypso
Sep 28, 2001

Grimey Drawer

FreudianSlippers posted:

I think W's greatest triumph was that he actually got people to believe in that "simple country boy" persona of his. His supporters liked it because it made him a relatable guy you could have a beer with that wasn't tied up in all that fancy Washington bullshit despite being a Ivy League educated son of a president who was vice-president before that. His opponents bought it because LOL BU$HITLER IS A BRAINLESS MONKEY.

I mean I don't think he's any sort of genius but I think he's probably by far the smartest Bush brother.

He can't pronounce nuclear. That says a lot.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Karma Monkey posted:

The way he just stood there nodding in silence that long was freaking me out. If he had peeled his face off to reveal an alien and bit the other guy's head off, it would have been completely unsurprising. Was he having a fit? I give props to the reporter for maintaining his cool and not backing away saying "Dude, seriously, you're creeping me the gently caress out."

Yeah, he looks like he's re-calibrating


I wonder if Stacy Dash is aware that things like BET awards exist because of attitudes like the first guy, who considers the appearance of non-male, non-white characters to be super offense.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Practical Demon posted:

The lesbian fantasy stuff with Harley Quinn and Ivy started during the loving cartoon specifically aimed at kids because Paul Dini is gross.

Sure don't want kids knowing about them homos, no siree bob.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

quote:

females

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

SpliffClavin
Jul 31, 2007

oh geez rick

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos
I want to know what Heidi will do if she's on a date and the guy tries to rape her.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


trickybiscuits posted:

I want to know what Heidi will do if she's on a date and the guy tries to rape her.

Same gun, but with a different paint job and more stout magazine.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

Subjunctive posted:

Sure don't want kids knowing about them homos, no siree bob.

Yeah, that was my point. Not that Paul Dini really likes to draw sexy pinups of all the female Batman villains, and took the opportunity of turning his show into a weird, sanitized 60s pulp lesbian fantasy for a few episodes.

EDIT: And to be clear, neither character is ever stated to be specifically gay or even bisexual in the comics. Harley and Ivy are both written to hit on men constantly with terrible "bad girl" dialogue, and every time they're shown together, it comes off like the first few minutes of a lesbian porn scene.

Poor Miserable Gurgi has a new favorite as of 05:08 on Jan 25, 2016

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Practical Demon posted:

Yeah, that was my point. Not that Paul Dini really likes to draw sexy pinups of all the female Batman villains, and took the opportunity of turning his show into a weird, sanitized 60s pulp lesbian fantasy for a few episodes.

Glad we're on the same page. (Why does it matter that it was a lesbian fantasy, and not a heterosexual one?)

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

Subjunctive posted:

Glad we're on the same page. (Why does it matter that it was a lesbian fantasy, and not a heterosexual one?)

Because it was a heterosexual man sexualizing two female characters in a personal fantasy, then shoehorning into the show. It really shouldn't be that hard to believe a comic writer might be kind of creepy about women.

jorty
May 11, 2015

grump_dog.jpg
Lipstick Apathy

iPhone Conservative? I don't get the naming of this page.

Also what's with the
this is ____
____ is smart
be like _____ meme?

It's just popped up over the last few days for me and I don't get it :(

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

bleughmacaroni posted:

iPhone Conservative? I don't get the naming of this page.

Also what's with the
this is ____
____ is smart
be like _____ meme?

It's just popped up over the last few days for me and I don't get it :(

I don't know but I hid posts from that app and improved my day immensely.

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012

Subjunctive posted:

Glad we're on the same page. (Why does it matter that it was a lesbian fantasy, and not a heterosexual one?)

Because they're lesbians in a really shallow way that only serves to provide wank material for heterosexual men and in the process waters down the sexual agency of gay women?

Stop being obtuse

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Henchman of Santa posted:

I don't know but I hid posts from that app and improved my day immensely.

Yeah, when you see "Bob and 27 other friends posted" on a spam app, it's time to say :fuckoff:

Some of them kept posting over and over and over. "Just had to try it again LOL!" Like seriously, gently caress you. I used to like you.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



trickybiscuits posted:

I want to know what Heidi will do if she's on a date and the guy tries to rape her.

Be ostracized by her family and be called an attention whore by the police and internet?

Wait I think I'm playing this game wrong...

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

I got a bingo!!!!

1) objectify women
2) good guy with gun
3) that loving this is _____ meme
4) downplaying how rape occurs
5) free space

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/phoenix-teens-spark-outrage-posting-racist-pic-article-1.2507148

Hey wouldn't it be funny if we anagrammed the words from the yearbook photo into something else?

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

so it's really N1**ER

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Arctic Baldwin posted:

so it's really N1**ER

Now who's the real racist? :smuggo:

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
“Best You’ve Ever Seen Class of 2016"

I am sure you can get better words out of that sentence

"Best rear end" seems an easy one to start with

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug
A Obscenely Eve Roues Vests

(Edit. A Obscene Sleeve Vest - Yours)

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

"Defend Italy: Stop Strangers"

It hurts real bad to see this racist bullshit coming from fellow Italians.

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug

paradoxGentleman posted:

"Defend Italy: Stop Strangers"

It hurts real bad to see this racist bullshit coming from fellow Italians.

That's no anagram. (Charlie Brown's changed, top right.)

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

paradoxGentleman posted:

"Defend Italy: Stop Strangers"

It hurts real bad to see this racist bullshit coming from fellow Italians.

Charlie Brown's shirt!

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

paradoxGentleman posted:

"Defend Italy: Stop Strangers"

It hurts real bad to see this racist bullshit coming from fellow Italians.

What's up with fat stacks Uncle Sam being equally racist to black med-x dealer Charlie brown

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas
Change.org email me petitions every now and again, and my God are some of them retarded.

https://www.change.org/p/simon-robe...urated_trending

TLDR - Boots' pricing is sexist because women's products are more expensive than the male equivalent!

No poo poo, that's because women are willing to pay more, not because the CEO hates women (who are the majority of his customers). Read a little into market forces before getting on your high horse. If women want to pay more for pink razors, then people are going to sell overpriced pink razors.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

spog posted:

“Best You’ve Ever Seen Class of 2016"

I am sure you can get better words out of that sentence

"Best rear end" seems an easy one to start with

Could be "BEST N1**ER" which somehow seems toothless and sort of fun in comparison.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Brawnfire posted:

Could be "BEST N1**ER" which somehow seems toothless and sort of fun in comparison.

Sounds like an award at some 1800s slave version of a farm show

Marius Pontmercy
Apr 2, 2007

Liberte
Egalite
Beyonce

EvilGenius posted:

Change.org email me petitions every now and again, and my God are some of them retarded.

https://www.change.org/p/simon-robe...urated_trending

TLDR - Boots' pricing is sexist because women's products are more expensive than the male equivalent!

No poo poo, that's because women are willing to pay more, not because the CEO hates women (who are the majority of his customers). Read a little into market forces before getting on your high horse. If women want to pay more for pink razors, then people are going to sell overpriced pink razors.

Women's personal care products average about 15% more than men's over the entire market. It is kind of bullshit because I actually think men are the ones who would pay more to avoid using pink razors.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

EvilGenius posted:

Change.org email me petitions every now and again, and my God are some of them retarded.

https://www.change.org/p/simon-robe...urated_trending

TLDR - Boots' pricing is sexist because women's products are more expensive than the male equivalent!

No poo poo, that's because women are willing to pay more, not because the CEO hates women (who are the majority of his customers). Read a little into market forces before getting on your high horse. If women want to pay more for pink razors, then people are going to sell overpriced pink razors.

Yeah ok buddy.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Eponine posted:

Women's personal care products average about 15% more than men's over the entire market. It is kind of bullshit because I actually think men are the ones who would pay more to avoid using pink razors.

Aren't a lot of the products almost exactly the same except they smell different?

There seems to be a ton of things that are "X for girls *tee hee*" which is just X except painted pink and more expensive. Granted the worst tools I ever had the misfortune to handle were ones that were labelled "tools for women." The things were made of flimsy pink plastic, obviously cheap steel, and were double the price of actual tools. I was like "what is this crap?"

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Eponine posted:

Women's personal care products average about 15% more than men's over the entire market. It is kind of bullshit because I actually think men are the ones who would pay more to avoid using pink razors.

There was a nice segment on this on The Checkout, an Australian TV show about consumers, products and consumerism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDmb_f3E2c

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

EvilGenius posted:

Change.org email me petitions every now and again, and my God are some of them retarded.

https://www.change.org/p/simon-robe...urated_trending

TLDR - Boots' pricing is sexist because women's products are more expensive than the male equivalent!

No poo poo, that's because women are willing to pay more, not because the CEO hates women (who are the majority of his customers). Read a little into market forces before getting on your high horse. If women want to pay more for pink razors, then people are going to sell overpriced pink razors.

That doesn't make it right though.

This issue is a whole thing stemming from childhood that pink=girly and using 'masculine' products is somehow wrong. Also a lot of shops now separate the men's and women's toiletries so it takes (admittedly a small amount of) effort to check the prices. Personally I have a epilator that I have had for probably over a decade, and now use a Mooncup so I guess I have #lifehacked paying extra for razors and tampons. Yay me.

http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2016/jan/19/the-sexist-surcharge-how-women-get-ripped-off-on-the-high-street

quote:

These are hard times to be a female shopper. Whether you spend your money on pens, razors, designer fragrance or plain old Marks & Spencer vests, you will pay a surcharge just for being a woman. In theory, men and women enter stores equal – but, in practice, the shelves each gender browses, the aisles each chooses, lead them down very different paths to the cash register. Products marketed specifically at women routinely cost more than similar or identical products marketed at men.

A pack of 10 twin-bladed men’s razors by Bic is on offer at £1 at tesco.com, while Bic’s pack of 8 twin-bladed lady razors is on offer at £2.

The extent of the discrepancies is staggering: an analysis of hundreds of products by the Times found that where equivalent products were priced differently, they cost 37% more for women. It is hard to imagine, for instance, why a single-blade razor made by the same manufacturer should cost more to produce in pink than orange. They are made by Bic, which also charges more for its Bics for Her biros than its Bics for everyone, a strategy that has seen the Bics for Her brand repurposed as the title of comedian Bridget Christie’s standup show. I’m not saying that the French penmaker is sexist, but it once advertised its feminine, pastel-barrelled writing tools with the slogan “Look like a girl / Act like a lady / Think like a man / Work like a boss”.

Women have long worn men’s 501s. Levi’s original version starts at £75 for men in a mid-blue wash, and £85 for women.

Factor in the tampon tax and the pay gap (19.1% across all workers in the UK) and it becomes clear that, whenever they reach a till, women are effectively paying three times, once in their salaries, once in their spending, and once in a surcharge on any women-directed products in their shopping baskets. “We earn less and we’re charged more. How many more times do you want women to be ripped off?” asks Sam Smethers, chief executive of the Fawcett Society.

A man can moisturise with Clarins cream for £29/50ml. A woman using the same brand will pay £44/50ml.

So, what to do? Women could buy Gillette’s sensitive shaving gel for men, instead of its Satin Care sensitive shaving gel for women and save 50p. The downside is that it will make you smell like a cheap man. Is it too radical to look for a fragrance-free shaving gel? Or to expect companies to market a unisex line? After all, it works at the higher price points for brands such as Dermalogica and REN. Smethers thinks the equivalent of a supermarket value brand – plain-speaking, no-frills packaging – could work for skin and bodycare products. “There is a massive opportunity here to create gender-neutral lines – why not? I think that’s a really interesting proposition for retailers.”

A plain 100% cotton women’s vest costs £6 at M&S (if you can find it among all the overly ornate ones), while men get three pure cotton equivalents for £12.50.


Fashion stylists have often shopped in the men’s department for women’s basics – plain-cut vests or T-shirts, sweatshirt and sweaters, watches – on the grounds of taste rather than price. Manufacturers routinely overdesign products for women, complicating necklines, adding unwanted tucks or tat, embellishing packaging. “We carry that with us throughout our lifetime,” Smethers says. “We create this norm that a women’s product has got to have extra presentational baubles on it, and then it can be charged more for. This is a massive issue that goes over generations of women.”

This Kurve balance bike by Kiddimoto looks a bargain at £49.99, compared to the flowery Kurve model aimed at girls

Girls start paying for the differences at an early age – it costs an extra £10 in Halfords for a Kiddimoto balance bike decorated with flowers rather than skulls. Surely it is time to end the tyranny of pink, which makes girls pay by delimiting their tastes according to gender stereotypes, and then charges their parents for the privilege.

Tom Ford’s Black Orchid eau de toilette spray costs £64 at mrporter.com and £75 at its sister company, netaporter.com.

Why women are perceived to have more fanciful taste baffles me, but these design discrepancies make the surcharge legal, as does the fact that these products are available to men to buy, too (unlike cheap women’s car insurance, which was ruled prejudicial to men, although somehow men’s haircuts are permitted to undercut women’s). Sometimes, even where products are marketed as unisex, price discrepancies remain. Who can say, for instance, why a Tom Ford eau de toilette should cost £75 for 50ml at Net-a-Porter and £64 for 50ml at Mr Porter, the women’s and men’s luxury shopping sites both owned by the Yoox Net-a-Porter Group? (Not Net-a-Porter, who wouldn’t comment at short notice.) Or why a woman logging on to Nike’s website to buy football boots would face a selection starting at £125, while her male counterpart can buy a pair for as little as £29.99? Pity women footballers, who must take the social and commercial one-two of being taunted for their lack of femininity, and then made to pay girls’ prices.

Nike’s studs aimed at women have a starting price of £125. Its range aimed at men starts at £29.99 in the sale.

The problem isn’t limited to Britain. In December, the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs released a study of 800 nearly identical products with male and female versions. The report, entitled From Cradle to Cane: The Cost of Being a Female Consumer, found that, on average, female versions cost 7% more than the male.

Women, the shops are laughing up their sleeves at you! It is time to make careful choices about where and how to spend that hard-earned, partially docked money, to find a way to make the sexists pay. (No Bic was used in the writing of this article.)

Rondette has a new favorite as of 13:59 on Jan 25, 2016

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Aren't a lot of the products almost exactly the same except they smell different?

There seems to be a ton of things that are "X for girls *tee hee*" which is just X except painted pink and more expensive. Granted the worst tools I ever had the misfortune to handle were ones that were labelled "tools for women." The things were made of flimsy pink plastic, obviously cheap steel, and were double the price of actual tools. I was like "what is this crap?"

Yup, but my point was that the products and the prices reflect what people want and are willing to buy. Only in the same way that Nurofen is 5x more expensive than generic ibuprofen, because it's in carefully designed packaging.

I find it funny, the idea that a misogynist CEO has gone 'gently caress women, I'm gonna charge them 15% more, MWAHAHA'.

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trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth

EvilGenius posted:

Yup, but my point was that the products and the prices reflect what people want and are willing to buy. Only in the same way that Nurofen is 5x more expensive than generic ibuprofen, because it's in carefully designed packaging.

I find it funny, the idea that a misogynist CEO has gone 'gently caress women, I'm gonna charge them 15% more, MWAHAHA'.

It's you. You're the idiot on social media.

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