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Rhymenoserous posted:Assassin has about 300 different ways to stun someone. I like it. Also it has to be super frustrating to use a heavy hitting ability against someone then they turn into a tree. Why alot of classes like to spin against assassin to hit the counter and also hit them in stealth
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Something I noticed and I'm not sure if it's Internet Lag or Input Lag or something else. I tend to not spam keys and I think it's hurting my game a lot, especially on reactionary skills like getting out of grapples and such. I'm noticing that I'll press F to retreat and the button will lightup and nothing happens. REALLY notice it on my FM moreso. Should I just be spamming escapes and or skills in general? Typically playing with <80ms ping.
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Stanley Pain posted:Something I noticed and I'm not sure if it's Internet Lag or Input Lag or something else. I tend to not spam keys and I think it's hurting my game a lot, especially on reactionary skills like getting out of grapples and such. I'm noticing that I'll press F to retreat and the button will lightup and nothing happens. REALLY notice it on my FM moreso. Should I just be spamming escapes and or skills in general? Typically playing with <80ms ping. If you hold down the button before it lights up (and just keep holding it), it should proc as soon as retreat is available.
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Jan 25, 2016 16:23
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The lag on Mushin has been fine but the instance servers are borderline unplayable. Just cannot ani-cancel to save my life in a dungeon but I can do it consistently out.
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Jan 25, 2016 16:32
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Zaodai posted:Wait, so we're blue side on Mushin? Nope, nobody blue on Mushin and nobody except a few goons who won't use discord on Jiwan. Everyone else is on Mushin or Cho, but neither really restricts dungeons because you can do that cross server.
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Jan 25, 2016 16:51
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For those people having what appears to be lag issues, apparently BnS has some FPS issues that could be the problem instead of your internet. I've read about people using tools to set the client to 'high priority' and that helping some. But apparently, it isn't coded the cleanest and so some of your issues might stem from that instead of your ping.
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Jan 25, 2016 16:59
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If you want to get serious about arena you need to learn what skills have stuff like pierce defense, resist damage/status, reflect, etc based on the class of your opponent you'll be facing. For example, against a ranged class I would change Kick into Drag (2 points) or if I'm facing a Blade Dancer I'll get 3 points to make Drag PBAOE around me. Also you may have to put either one or two points in your Tab escape. One point is essential at all times (even in PVE) but you may want to put up to two into it to break out of grabs which a lot of people forget to do vs Blade Dancer and Destroyers. Group World PVP as a Destroyer is basically 2 points into Blitz (1) for the leaping suck-in, 3 points into Typhoon (Q) for CC resist while spinning, 2-3 for Ranged Drag or PBAOE Drag (Z) and other stuff.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:02
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Failboattootoot posted:The lag on Mushin has been fine but the instance servers are borderline unplayable. Just cannot ani-cancel to save my life in a dungeon but I can do it consistently out. yeah i've noticed this too, world pve/pvp i can consistently do what i need to, dungeons there's a little delay also is 45 pvp dailies at red really that bad? is it something that a small group of organized players can overcome or is it literally a steamroll
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Jan 25, 2016 17:10
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So I was just informed that we're getting the boost to 50 and the warlock class in 16 days, can anybody confirm this?
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Jan 25, 2016 17:20
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Count Bleck posted:So I was just informed that we're getting the boost to 50 and the warlock class in 16 days, can anybody confirm this? This would be cool if true.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:22
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Mao posted:For those people having what appears to be lag issues, apparently BnS has some FPS issues that could be the problem instead of your internet. I've read about people using tools to set the client to 'high priority' and that helping some. But apparently, it isn't coded the cleanest and so some of your issues might stem from that instead of your ping. I know that I am not experiencing this sort of lag in any other action combat MMOs out there that I have tried (more than I care to admit) so this might be it.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:25
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Count Bleck posted:So I was just informed that we're getting the boost to 50 and the warlock class in 16 days, can anybody confirm this? That seems super, super unlikely since I think there's still more 45 content we haven't seen, but got a source?
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Jan 25, 2016 17:29
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Count Bleck posted:So I was just informed that we're getting the boost to 50 and the warlock class in 16 days, can anybody confirm this? Source? We'd have to get Bloodshade Harbor, Mushin's Tower, and Spiral Labyrinth first before 50. I highly doubt they'd just jump straight to 50 since it would trivialize those dungeons and we need to progress through them for weapon upgrades. I guess they could release Warlock early and cap it at 45 but that's kind of weird. I'd say Bloodshade and MAYBE Tower in 16 days (or whenever the daily dash ends) is way more likely.
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Funny moment during the Pinchy World Boss fight: Pubbie gets downed next to Pinchy right before he goes into the ground. I already had a bomb in hand in preparation, and tossed it immediately when I saw Pinchy go underground. What happens when an unfriendly bomb goes off next to a downed pubbie? You get a dead pubbie. Won't happen very often since the bomb only does 230ish damage, but really worth a laugh when it happened.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:41
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Warlock would be awesome. I've been craving that kind of powerful, temporary pet class over the Summoner's permanent pet. Localizations are weird so I guess it's possible we get things out of order, but in this case it would be odd to effectively skip all that extra content. They should be wanting to milk it for as long as they can, and the game just released so everything is fresh.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:41
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I'm not convinced the Pinchy outfit actually exists. It might be some sort of myth, meant to trick foolish people into fighting a stupid scorpion over and over for hours.
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Infinity Gaia posted:I'm not convinced the Pinchy outfit actually exists. It might be some sort of myth, meant to trick foolish people into fighting a stupid scorpion over and over for hours. I had the pinchy outft for my Lyn FM in the chinese version (they lasted 29 days), it was a onesy that made you look like an angler fish 
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Jan 25, 2016 18:00
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From watching the warlock trailer it looks like they can shoot lasers at people by making finger guns.  I'm sold on them.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:07
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Stormgale posted:Your basic go to is: Very helpful, thanks!
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Jan 25, 2016 18:09
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Infinity Gaia posted:I'm not convinced the Pinchy outfit actually exists. It might be some sort of myth, meant to trick foolish people into fighting a stupid scorpion over and over for hours. The worst boss to farm too since pubbies insist on snagging the bomb and throwing it AROUND pinchy and not on him.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:11
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Rhymenoserous posted:The worst boss to farm too since pubbies insist on snagging the bomb and throwing it AROUND pinchy and not on him. My problem with the bombs is that 40% of the bombs I throw show up as Resisted. What stats govern whether an attack gets resisted or not? Or is it just a random % chance defensive feature that Pinchy has?
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Jan 25, 2016 18:13
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I'm either dumb or thinking on this too much - I want to make use of the stuff Earthseers and Silver Cauldron guys make. Go with fishing and herbalism, but pester potters for the "special" ingredients?
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Jan 25, 2016 18:14
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Everything about crafting seems like a giant pain in the dick. I've barely touched it.
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Xavier434 posted:I know that I am not experiencing this sort of lag in any other action combat MMOs out there that I have tried (more than I care to admit) so this might be it. Have you tried the 'true full screen' fix? I had micro stutter forever and it made the game unplayable for me. There is a FPS counter option in the settings, turn it on and monitor it while you play. If it never goes over 60 even when you're staring at the ground you're not in true full screen mode. Might help smooth the game out for you.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:33
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Rhymenoserous posted:Everything about crafting seems like a giant pain in the dick. I've barely touched it. i've just been ordering the same thing from the stone/ore guys since level 22 i havent really found any new stones and i haven't really been able to craft anything without special mats that i can't make so yeah its a huge pain
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Jan 25, 2016 18:34
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Rhymenoserous posted:Everything about crafting seems like a giant pain in the dick. I've barely touched it. Grab the seal guys and potters, make unsealing charms with basic refiner (soil) and whatever a seal needs. That's low effort and probably saves you money in the long run.
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Rylek posted:Have you tried the 'true full screen' fix? I had micro stutter forever and it made the game unplayable for me. There is a FPS counter option in the settings, turn it on and monitor it while you play. If it never goes over 60 even when you're staring at the ground you're not in true full screen mode. Might help smooth the game out for you. This assumes that what I am experiencing is an FPS stuttering issue and not actual lag right? I will turn on the counter tonight. It didn't feel like an FPS stutter though. It felt like lag but it is worth monitoring just in case. Edit: I should mention that the only thing that appears laggy is skill input. Everything else in the game is running smooth as silk. Xavier434 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Rafzakael posted:i've just been ordering the same thing from the stone/ore guys since level 22 They tell you where to find new rocks and you can buy whatever extra junk you need on the market Not that I've found a use for weaponsmith/jewelcrafting yet to make it worthwhile (which I'm assuming you're doing)
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Supposedly people want diamonds at end game which (only?) come from jewel master. I really hate the crafting system for being so horrendously imbalanced in favor of Potters though. If that profession didn't exist or everyone could take it as an extra it would make stuff much better.
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I am sad the regium corvus is character-bound and not account-bound. Making decisions is hard. 
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Xavier434 posted:This assumes that what I am experiencing is an FPS stuttering issue and not actual lag right? I will turn on the counter tonight. It didn't feel like an FPS stutter though. It felt like lag but it is worth monitoring just in case. I had that problem in the early Beta when the servers were swamped, but haven't had it since I started playing the live version. Does it go away if you move to a less populated area/channel?
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Monster Mash posted:If you want to get serious about arena you need to learn what skills have stuff like pierce defense, resist damage/status, reflect, etc based on the class of your opponent you'll be facing. For example, against a ranged class I would change Kick into Drag (2 points) or if I'm facing a Blade Dancer I'll get 3 points to make Drag PBAOE around me. Also you may have to put either one or two points in your Tab escape. One point is essential at all times (even in PVE) but you may want to put up to two into it to break out of grabs which a lot of people forget to do vs Blade Dancer and Destroyers. Cool stuff. I didn't realize Blitz had a draw-in talent, that's neat. I get that "Pierce Defense" means it goes through Block/Parry, but what's resist damage/status about?
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Xavier434 posted:Edit: I should mention that the only thing that appears laggy is skill input. Everything else in the game is running smooth as silk. I'm finding really bad input lag as well. Especially when in Arena PVP or Instance Dungeons.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Supposedly people want diamonds at end game which (only?) come from jewel master. I really hate the crafting system for being so horrendously imbalanced in favor of Potters though. If that profession didn't exist or everyone could take it as an extra it would make stuff much better. Doesn't bother me as a potter.  Although have log in issues been fixed? Saturday was pretty bad and i didnt play yesterday.
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So after pouring through Reddit, I found that I am not the only person with this skill input lag problem. There appears to be several different kinds of common issues out there resulting in either input lag or low FPS but they are not one and the same (or so it seems). One of them appears to be an issue related to software commonly installed with ASUS motherboards: https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/41hg3o/psa_if_you_have_extreme_pingskill_lag_in_blade/ quote:This is a weird issue, but if only Blade and Soul is giving you extreme lag (up to a full second to register skill activation), it might be an ASUS bit of software running. The other issue seems to be related directly to the game's engine and involves input lag specifically with LMB and RMB clicks. I suspect that this may be the problem that I am experiencing, but I am not sure yet. https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/41wv2n/workaround_fixing_the_input_lag_with_mouse_buttons/ quote:As most of you are probably aware, the engine that Blade and Soul runs on has a noticeable amount of input lag with the mouse keys. You can test it yourself – stand still and mash your left click, observing your LMB skill. You'll notice that the blue highlight around your skill icon only flashes every ~200ms instead of whenever you press it. Then mash the R button (the alternate hotkey for your LMB skill) and you'll notice that it highlights much more quickly and accurately. This can become an issue when doing things like Destroyer animation cancelling or stacking Force Master debuffs and you'll see many streamers and high ranking players opting to use their LMB/RMB skills with keyboard shortcuts instead. However, if you're like me and and are used to using the mouse buttons for mostly everything then you're out of luck. Unfortunately, none of the workarounds that I have read about for mouse input lag sound very good. I am going to try several other things though. Or maybe it is nothing on my end and the server was just being lovely for about 2 hours at some point last night. No idea yet.
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Lemming posted:They tell you where to find new rocks and you can buy whatever extra junk you need on the market yeah, i...think weaponsmithing can make weapons that substitute for upgrade materials (i.e. i can make blight weapons, which sounds great on paper until you look at the mat cost, which total costs something in the ballpark of 30-50 silver; you can grind some of it out, but you need another professions materials to finish it. i know i didn't have that kind of money laying around at that time.) Infinity Gaia posted:Supposedly people want diamonds at end game which (only?) come from jewel master. I really hate the crafting system for being so horrendously imbalanced in favor of Potters though. If that profession didn't exist or everyone could take it as an extra it would make stuff much better. this makes me happy though, so i'm gonna keep working on it
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What does crafting get you in this game? It always seems like a less efficient alternative in modern MMOs. Is there any reason to do it?
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Rafzakael posted:yeah, i...think weaponsmithing can make weapons that substitute for upgrade materials (i.e. i can make blight weapons, which sounds great on paper until you look at the mat cost, which total costs something in the ballpark of 30-50 silver; you can grind some of it out, but you need another professions materials to finish it. i know i didn't have that kind of money laying around at that time.) I thought weaponsmiths made special expensive skins you use to reskin your weapon with?
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kaempfer0080 posted:What does crafting get you in this game? It always seems like a less efficient alternative in modern MMOs. Is there any reason to do it? Well Soul Wardens and Merry Potters are needed for item progression currently.
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I have tried Summoner and Destroyer now, and got both to 15... And I have to say, I am not super impressed with either. The Summoner feels like I have a single good damaging ability [my RMB], while my Destroyer... I dunno, I feel like I do way less damage than the summoner, while also being more complicated. I also am having trouble with learning what I should actually do when I grab things on the Destroyer. I mean I mostly hit F like 3-4 times and then hit z to slam them down, then RMB, but it feels like basically everything is surviving that full combo, and then hitting me a bunch. Maybe I'm just expecting things to die too quickly? I'm not enjoying having to facetank things though.
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