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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Ein cooler Typ posted:

I've got this monstrosity too





It's the only way to play the greatest game ever made: Desert Bus

I had it burned on a CD-R but now it doesn't work anymore



my next picture will be the smoldering remains of my house after the electrical fire

drat it felt cool being the only kid with the full 'Aircraft Carrier Config' as we called it. Then we played some games and it was lovely and not worth the hype. Especially the games that required both 32x and SegaCD

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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Melmac posted:

Honestly I don't think I've ever had a hard drive die in my 20+ years of computing.

Same here. I remember one drive starting to fail so I moved all the content over to a spare. Another reason that those huge towers came in handy.

I still have Zip disks that load up and never failed.

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

Bonzo posted:

Same here. I remember one drive starting to fail so I moved all the content over to a spare. Another reason that those huge towers came in handy.

I still have Zip disks that load up and never failed.

I had a goober in my department come up to me and asked if I had a zip drive he could test a disk on, he's been to every drive he could find but none would open the disk. He killed all our drives with the click of death.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Bonzo posted:

I still have Zip disks that load up and never failed.

I never had one fail either, but I always made a point of keeping them in those plastic cases.

I've only had two hard drives fail while still in active use. One was defective from the start and caused read errors two days out of the box and the other was in a 286 that my dad used for running Quickbooks until 2002 or so. It lasted over a decade in an environment that was dirty, humid and had extreme temperature swings, so I'd say that was a pretty good run.

Humphreys posted:

drat it felt cool being the only kid with the full 'Aircraft Carrier Config' as we called it. Then we played some games and it was lovely and not worth the hype. Especially the games that required both 32x and SegaCD

Sure it was huge, expensive and needed somewhere to plug in those three huge AC adapters, but you could play Night Trap with slightly better quality less lovely quality video!

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Ein cooler Typ posted:

I've got this monstrosity too





It's the only way to play the greatest game ever made: Desert Bus

I had it burned on a CD-R but now it doesn't work anymore



my next picture will be the smoldering remains of my house after the electrical fire

God drat man dust and organize your game station. Just the shelves, though. I realize it's futile to try keeping a Sega Genesis/32x/CD combo's cable situation under control.

Edit: I was always jealous of anyone that had the old grey Zapper. I was stuck with the safety orange model :argh:

Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 17:16 on Jan 25, 2016

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
I had an external zip 100 drive in college, but only one computer lab had zip drives installed so I had to carry around the disks and the drive. Still didn't have to use 1.44 disks like a filthy pleb.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Here's my contribution to hard drive failure chat.

Sometime around the turn of the century, I picked up a Quantum Bigfoot drive. I knew about their reputation as being very prone to sudden death, but hey, it was cheap, it was enormous (20 gigs!), and I wasn't planning to use it for anything important, just as a place to dump files and media that I hoovered up from people at LAN parties. At the ones I went to, most of us had a publicly-shared folder full of :filez:. The easiest strategy was just to grab anything that looked remotely interesting, then go through it all later and figure out what was worth keeping. Saved you precious gaming time during the party, but it took a lot of "scratch space". This was hardly mission-critical, so I figured when the Bigfoot inevitably died on me, I wouldn't be too broken up.

It never died. :buddy:

It soldiered on even as higher-quality drives in the same machine bit the dust. I eventually took the Bigfoot out of service because the enormous 20 gigs stopped being enormous. I've kept that drive around in my pile o' parts (it's easy to spot, it's the only 5.25" hard drive I've ever had), and every few years I dig out a PATA adapter, plug it in, and see if ol' Bigfoot is still alive. It is. That beast will outlive us all.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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That is a big fuckin hard drive

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
I wonder why there's an AT&T chip on it.

Lufiron
Nov 24, 2005

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Any mid-nineties Mac gamers around here?



ah marathon, made by a (at the time) relatively unknown game company called bungie

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Never played Marathon. Played Myth: The Fallen Lords poorly.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
"You are standing in a thread. Someone has made an insightful post."
LOOK AT insightful post
"It's a pretty good post."
HATE post
"I don't understand"
SHIT ON post
"You shit on the post. Why."

Germstore posted:

I wonder why there's an AT&T chip on it.

Probably a Microcontroller. Lots of companies in all sorts of IC business back then, AMD for example did all kinds of stuff (especially programmable logic) not only CPUs.

I have a big SCSI server drive from around that time, it's a bit like that just two drive units high and pretty heavy. Still works (wouldn't expect any less to be honest) but incredibly loud, sounds like a chainsaw. Harddrives really started to get a lot more quiet with the introduction of dynamic fluid bearings, but that happened a bit later. It's also a possible failure point.

From personal experience (and completely anecdotal evidence I have nothing to back up with) in private usage scenarios though, harddrives on average seem to have gotten a bit more reliable, not less. It is true that the platter density is higher now and but the mechanical and electrical aspects have improved also a lot, even though they might not be as robust against adverse operating conditions anymore (they will not see in normal home operation anyways, except perhaps excessive heat).

I think also pretty much every manufacturer had a series of harddrives now that were very prone to failure because of some problem with the very design or manufacturing of the unit and this gets affected people that got burned and lost lots of data to swear up and down "I will never buy anything from this company again", but there's little point to that. Just make backups and don't rely too much on one single harddrive to carry all the data you don't want to lose. Even if you're computer illiterate and/or don't have a lot of money, just get some redundancy in that your stuff isn't all in one place. The chances that you have several data storage devices falling out of the blue and you lose all your data is a lot smaller than if you put all your eggs into one basket. I'm talking regular backups and not data archival for 10+ years here of course. Funnily enough it takes people usually one catastrophic loss of data to learn that lesson. I've got a non-technical friend who swears up and down that he's got RAID 1 and does not need backups.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
I lost my collection of PCGAMER mags going from Apr 1997-sometime in 2003? But I still have every single demo disc from that period. I think the apr 1997 one had the Curse of Monkey Island on the cover, and the demo disc had Monkey Island 1 & 2, which you could call Lucasarts and give them your CC over the phone to get an activation code. It took a while to convince my parents to go for it, but once I showed my mom CoMI she loved the humor and was all for me playing them.

Anyone remember the insane little stories they had on the last page of each PCGAMER, at the very bottom right? They were a few sentences each, and one "storyline" would span months IIRC. When people would write to PCGAMER, they'd deny there was text there and show an "example" that had nothing there, saying that reader must have been crazy. If I can find an old issue I'll scan it, 'cos it was definitely pretty weird.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Police Automaton posted:

I think also pretty much every manufacturer had a series of harddrives now that were very prone to failure because of some problem with the very design or manufacturing of the unit and this gets affected people that got burned and lost lots of data to swear up and down "I will never buy anything from this company again", but there's little point to that. Just make backups and don't rely too much on one single harddrive to carry all the data you don't want to lose. Even if you're computer illiterate and/or don't have a lot of money, just get some redundancy in that your stuff isn't all in one place. The chances that you have several data storage devices falling out of the blue and you lose all your data is a lot smaller than if you put all your eggs into one basket. I'm talking regular backups and not data archival for 10+ years here of course. Funnily enough it takes people usually one catastrophic loss of data to learn that lesson. I've got a non-technical friend who swears up and down that he's got RAID 1 and does not need backups.

Totally agree, but gently caress Seagate.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Is there an affordablish option on tape drives if I decide to lose my mind?

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Feedback Agency posted:

When I was a kid my dad used to pirate PSX games off Usenet for me to play. I remember him getting pissed that I didn't like Small Soldiers (probably because he spent so much loving time downloading a whole CD's worth of data.)

I had a pretty huge collection of pirated games, but the only one that survives to this day is Duke Nukem Time to Kill.

Also, Battlezone. I spent so much time playing this game and it's sequel it isn't funny.






Man I hated the gently caress out of the sequel. utter garbage. The thing I liked was you were fighting in space in those dopey as hell spacewalk suits. In comes the sequel where the designers forgot the cold war poo poo stuff worked great. gently caress the storyline.

Also the tanks were easily the closest to feeling that I was in full control of its movement at high speeds.




In recognition of your awesomeness I found this link recently. Someone has a copy of battlezone 1 online updated to work on modern machines with no graphics bullshit and networking games actually is very drat easy without having to use heat online.


http://www.battlezone1.com/



Btw remember the game browser/server wars? That was until every single multiplayer game need to be hosted on official servers beyond your control.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
Wouldn't tape drives need to be stored in ideal conditions or something.

Not that normalplatter/flash hard drives and stuff wouldn't benefit from that but if you're gonna rock some ancient archives without environment control it seems like a waste to get tapes

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

EVIR Gibson posted:

Man I hated the gently caress out of the sequel. utter garbage. The thing I liked was you were fighting in space in those dopey as hell spacewalk suits. In comes the sequel where the designers forgot the cold war poo poo stuff worked great. gently caress the storyline.

Also the tanks were easily the closest to feeling that I was in full control of its movement at high speeds.




In recognition of your awesomeness I found this link recently. Someone has a copy of battlezone 1 online updated to work on modern machines with no graphics bullshit and networking games actually is very drat easy without having to use heat online.


http://www.battlezone1.com/



Btw remember the game browser/server wars? That was until every single multiplayer game need to be hosted on official servers beyond your control.

gamespy only recently gave up and died, the leader of said server browser war

hhhat
Apr 29, 2008

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

Wouldn't tape drives need to be stored in ideal conditions or something.

Keep them warm to stay fresh
I put them on a radiator in the utility closet

All good

Return Of JimmyJars
Jun 24, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

mrwuss posted:

gamespy only recently gave up and died, the leader of said server browser war

Game spy is the origin of this dead gay forum. Low tax worked there until he was fired for sexual harassment.

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

Game spy is the origin of this dead gay forum. Low tax worked there until he was fired for sexual harassment.

was he the bad comedy forum manager?

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

Game spy is the origin of this dead gay forum. Low tax worked there until he was fired for sexual harassment.

Gamespy forums had its moments. Getting invaded by a poo poo ton of WWII Online geeks was particularly hilarious.
Bad Ash was probably one of the greatest trolls I've ever seen.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Casimir Radon posted:

Is there an affordablish option on tape drives if I decide to lose my mind?

Curious about this too.

I learned to stop trusting hard drives when my dumb rear end decided to store all the photos I'd ever taken on a single drive, which poo poo itself randomly one day. I recovered maybe 60%.

After that, I moved to having all of my data at home stored on a network server, which is backed up to cloud storage. Some stuff, like my My Documents folder and code projects [ie stuff I need back ASAP if I lose the disk, and can't wait for a multi week cloud restore], are backed up to my dropbox.

I haven't had a disk fail since then, except in my 10+ year old RAID array, and due to another being in a USB enclosure which fell off my desk.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe


Played a lot of Agent USA when I was a kid. Never completed the game though, I don't think I had the hand-eye coordination at that age to avoid the bad guys as things progressed.




Operation Frog was another title by the same publisher, but I don't think it was ever released for IBM. I played it years later on an Apple IIgs. Pretty sure it required a mouse to make the scalpel cuts and poo poo at the right place, and I don't think mice were commonplace on PCs until much later. We certainly didn't have one until we upgraded to a 386.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

stubblyhead posted:



Operation Frog was another title by the same publisher, but I don't think it was ever released for IBM. I played it years later on an Apple IIgs. Pretty sure it required a mouse to make the scalpel cuts and poo poo at the right place, and I don't think mice were commonplace on PCs until much later. We certainly didn't have one until we upgraded to a 386.

:eyepop: do you get to dissect any more animals besides frogs? I'd play the poo poo out of this

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Going through my old CD drawer, I found I still have a original Freespace DVD that I got with my Diamond Viper V550. .

I don't think I ever got around to playing it. First thing I did was buy Carmageddon 2 and never ever uninstall it.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

pepito sanchez posted:

i almost forgot about this:



sega attached to a segaCD with a mounted sega 32x

i only had the first two as a kid thinking it would be great. turned out to have a pretty bad selection of games. like yeah, you had cds now instead of cartridges, but it still looked and felt like they were only holding 10mb of data tops.

holy gently caress I had that setup, was a dumpster fire

the pro move back then was when a new console was coming out, sell the console you had cheap to one of the kids that invariably didn't have that particular console and the games at less of a discount

I had basically every console from the NES through the Dreamcast at launch and the only one my parents bought for me was the NES

e- also about the browser wars, I kinda miss All Seeing Eye

Seizure Meat has a new favorite as of 23:11 on Jan 25, 2016

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Mak0rz posted:

:eyepop: do you get to dissect any more animals besides frogs? I'd play the poo poo out of this

Nope just frogs. Looks like it was released for PC at some point, cause you can play it online through an embedded dosbox thingy.

http://playdosgamesonline.com/operation-frog.html

It's not the most intuitive thing ever, but I'm sure you can figure it out.

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
-

an actual frog has a new favorite as of 22:19 on Jun 24, 2020

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
I didn't get my first PC until 2003, so from 99-03 I used that loving browser

it actually wasn't too bad, and one of my quake clan members (lol, clans) even made a workaround for me so I could use the IRC

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Code Jockey posted:

Curious about this too.

I learned to stop trusting hard drives when my dumb rear end decided to store all the photos I'd ever taken on a single drive, which poo poo itself randomly one day. I recovered maybe 60%.

After that, I moved to having all of my data at home stored on a network server, which is backed up to cloud storage. Some stuff, like my My Documents folder and code projects [ie stuff I need back ASAP if I lose the disk, and can't wait for a multi week cloud restore], are backed up to my dropbox.

I haven't had a disk fail since then, except in my 10+ year old RAID array, and due to another being in a USB enclosure which fell off my desk.
I've only ever had two drive failures and they weren't complete losses, but it was pretty clear they were going to poo poo the bed pretty quickly. All my important stuff is backed up on a network drive in RAID 1. However that doesn't account for some kind of crazy failure, or a fire. It's also only 2tb. So keeping some tapes in a safety deposit box seems like a decent strategy.

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry

EVIR Gibson posted:

Man I hated the gently caress out of the sequel. utter garbage. The thing I liked was you were fighting in space in those dopey as hell spacewalk suits. In comes the sequel where the designers forgot the cold war poo poo stuff worked great. gently caress the storyline.

Also the tanks were easily the closest to feeling that I was in full control of its movement at high speeds.




In recognition of your awesomeness I found this link recently. Someone has a copy of battlezone 1 online updated to work on modern machines with no graphics bullshit and networking games actually is very drat easy without having to use heat online.


http://www.battlezone1.com/



Btw remember the game browser/server wars? That was until every single multiplayer game need to be hosted on official servers beyond your control.

loving sold. Ty.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Mak0rz posted:

:eyepop: do you get to dissect any more animals besides frogs? I'd play the poo poo out of this

Other animals like... people?



Life and Death was an awesome game despite the CGA colors.

Wintermutant
Oct 2, 2009




Dinosaur Gum

pepito sanchez posted:

i almost forgot about this:



sega attached to a segaCD with a mounted sega 32x

i only had the first two as a kid thinking it would be great. turned out to have a pretty bad selection of games. like yeah, you had cds now instead of cartridges, but it still looked and felt like they were only holding 10mb of data tops.

Maybe I was a dumb kid who didn't know any better, but I really liked my Tower of Doom. Road Rash CD, Sylpheed, superior console versions of Mortal Kombat 2 and Doom, and learning a ridiculous number of control combinations to play Wing Commander:

Pre-Flight Functions
D Move the cursor to select option
A Begin selected action
B Skip entire conversation/animation
A or C Skip one line of conversation
S Start game/Pause
In-Flight Functions
D Move the ship left, right, up and down
A Fire gun
AB Launch missile
B and up or B and down Speed up or slow down
B and left or B and right Roll left or roll right.
Bx2 Apply afterburner burst (keep pressed the second time for continous afterburners)
S^ or S\/ Cycle views (External views and Cockpit)
S and up or S and down Cycle views (Starboard/Rear/Port/Cockpit)
SAB Toggle Missile Camera (on/off)
BC Autopilot
SBC Eject from ship
VDU Functions (3 Button Controller)
SA Cycle through Left VDU modes (Weapon/Gun/Damage)
SC Cycle through Right VDU modes (Communications/Nav/Target)
C Cycle through avaialble options
SB Lock/Unlock target (If in Autotargeting mode)
SB Select Reciever/Send Message (If in Communications mode)
SB Display Nav map/pause game (If in Navigational mode)
A Accept Nav point and return to cockpit (if in Nav map)
VDU Functions (6 Button Controller)
X Cycle through Left VDU modes (Weapon/Gun/Damage)
Z Cycle through Right VDU modes (Communications/Nav/Target)
C Cycle through available option
Y Lock/Unlock target (If in Autotargeting mode)
Y Select Receiver/Send Message (If in Communications mode)
Y Display Nav map/pause game (If in Navigational mode)
Y Accept Nav point and return to cockpit (if in Nav map)

I also forget the exact trick, but I think it involved inserting a cartridge while a CD game was running, and it would cause the foreground of the cartridge to play over the frozen background from the CD game. The kids at school could never figure out how I had so many Mortal Kombat levels they'd never seen before.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
Speaking of sega Saturn someone posted this in the dark souls 3 thread and wow what a loving weird game: virtual hydlide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT8jqgbVcdE

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Feedback Agency posted:

When I was a kid my dad used to pirate PSX games off Usenet for me to play. I remember him getting pissed that I didn't like Small Soldiers (probably because he spent so much loving time downloading a whole CD's worth of data.)

I had a pretty huge collection of pirated games, but the only one that survives to this day is Duke Nukem Time to Kill.

Also, Battlezone. I spent so much time playing this game and it's sequel it isn't funny.






Ohhh gently caress I miss action/strategy


If u were a serious player of bz1 you played on heat.net and you loving knew who LoC were

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


Cool, a disk that's probably hardly been used, I'll peel the label off that and format it.

I mean I'm assuming someone threw out the token ring adapter a long time ago.

Germstore posted:

I wonder why there's an AT&T chip on it.

Because Bell Labs invented heaps of amazing stuff?

Police Automaton posted:

I think also pretty much every manufacturer had a series of harddrives now that were very prone to failure because of some problem with the very design or manufacturing of the unit and this gets affected people that got burned and lost lots of data to swear up and down "I will never buy anything from this company again"

Yeah I don't think there's a manufacturer that still exists that hasn't sold me bad hard drives before. I got a PC with two 40G WD disks, they both failed kinda quick. Who knows how hot they would have gotten in a case that had an Athlon XP in it and probably not many fans, though!

Powered Descent posted:

Quantum Bigfoot

lol, well I would have thought that they should be more reliable, because hey, shouldn't it be easier to build things better if you don't need to make them as small? There's something to be said for economies of scale though, I wonder how much more it cost to have to be able to build two different sizes of drives, platters, heads, etc.?


Some real content: snow on CGA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GGw_HvmK7g

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

For the guy a few pages back talking about hard drive failure and seagate. All I can say is gently caress seagate.

Fair play to the IT guys who've never had a drive break.

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ShiroTheSniper
Mar 19, 2009

I see dead arrows.
Lipstick Apathy
Loom

The 13 years old French speaking teen I was had a hard time playing this. Was playing with a dictionary to understand the game and the walkthrough I got from a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfDY8z3evs

Wasn't able to think about the word "Loom" as something else than "Fruits of the loom"...

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