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ryde posted:I don't think that CIG "get" that its better to just own up to the technical difficulties. "I'm sorry. We promised X, but it turns out it is going to be much more difficult than we thought for Y and Z reasons, so we're going to have to cancel/delay it." It happens in software projects; I've had to do it myself. It sucks and people are angry but its much better to get the info out earlier and let them get over it . Otherwise you waste developer time, and your stakeholders are even angrier because not only are they not getting their feature you also led them on for months and wasted their money. Yes, but did you ever do it after the customer has already given you $1000+ because you said that feature was in?
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Jason Sextro posted:I think I've posted more in this thread than I have in 10 years Hello fellow lurker goon. Ditto. Terrific thread, and huge thanks to all the quality contributors for the information and the great laughs, and also to the villains at CIG and the imbeciles at Reddit without whom all of this would not have been possible. If I wake up in the middle of the night the first thing I do is grab my phone to check for amazing new revelations.
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Tortolia posted:If they gave an unmelt token for every 30 hours of Arena Commander play on an account they would have so much data to ignore they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
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reminder to all CIG employees who have knowledge of illegal activity, if youre not a whistleblower, you're an accomplice!
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I think I just figured out what's going on. They're not making a game at all, they're making an animated made for TV movie about the whole mess! Chris - Gary Oldman Sandi - herself Ben - John Rhys-Davies HoboLando - Mark Hamill Random intern that's fawns over Sandi - Gillian Anderson I take back everything I said about these guys, they've been two steps ahead the entire time!
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tooterfish posted:But they already don't know what to do with themselves? I mean that is a separate issue that doesn't need player data
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"Gets told by CIG that we don't need Star Marine because we have the PU. Is asked by CIG to play Arena Commander when we have the PU. Is very confused......" CIG beard guy already editing his replies to be less snarky. I don't think CIG expected this much discord for the star marine debacle.
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Matlock Birthmark posted:Yes, but did you ever do it after the customer has already given you $1000+ because you said that feature was in? I doubt that they gave $1000 because of blacking out alone. There was likely quite a bit of wiggle room to back out of promises and give refunds for people who wanted them up until they spent all of the backer money going after their white whale.
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peter gabriel posted:In a staggering twist of idiocy CIG have just said G forces won't affect anyone but the pilot, so we are a situation where a pilot could be fainting from GFOOOORCE and you could be stood at the side of him giving it 'LOL@U' totally unaffected loving  the only thing that can unite citizens in anger against this game is inconsistent adherence to Selective Space Realism
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Ravane posted:So... the shitizens have literally just devolved to posting bullshit about Uncle Derek now (not that they weren't before, but they're calling him a massive sexist now). That thing is not even human so why should one care? Maybe they have like six sexes in the planet it came from. quote:6th_SamuraiScout 2 points 5 hours ago If 2015 taught me anything is that I learned nothing.
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No Mods No Masters posted:loving How DARE you suggest that my cargo needs to not be secured according to CARGO_LOADING_BEST_PRACTICES.pdf that I spent four weeks writing? This is a slap in the space face
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Lime Tonics posted:"Gets told by CIG that we don't need Star Marine because we have the PU.
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ryde posted:This is a promise that would make sense to walk back, since having ship-external physics impact the ship-internal physics could be pretty tricky. They should just remove the blackout altogether and straight up say "Its not working out, we'll try it again some other time." Its not as if blacking out is a thing in other space-shooty games. Why do they want to die on this hill? Because CIG have built themselves up to their backers on the promise that they are doing things different from traditional game development, i.e. the land where gameplay ideas are tried out and anti-fun things are determined to be anathema for a product that needs to sell itself... Because EA, Acti, Microsoft, Ubi, et al, are "broken" so the way they do things must be equally "broken". I'm actually starting to think that ideas that Chris himself has doubled down on are untouchable... they stay in whether they are fun or not, because it shows that CIG is doing things different (even if they are not necessarily the "right" things) and he is pursuing his perception of "fidelity" even if it flies in the face of "fun" (or, you know... actual fidelity).
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Ha ha ha. Here honey, you can play this Spaceship game with us. They've got things you can do, like mix drinks, and look at birds.
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peter gabriel posted:How DARE you suggest that my cargo needs to not be secured according to CARGO_LOADING_BEST_PRACTICES.pdf that I spent four weeks writing? Soon, in star citizen: Hangarowner Associations. -Neighbor, is that cutlass black painted green?
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Siva68 posted:What do you think would happen if Ben lost his necklace? I feel like that's his whole identity, also tuck the drat thing in. Someone mentioned the Harkonnen heart-plugs from Dune earlier....makes you think.
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Mirificus posted:
lost for words on this one. loving hell: INVOLVE YOUR FAMILY IN NORMAL ACTIVITIES FOR gently caress SAKE.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:lost for words on this one.
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I've caught up - The Post Sitting on the edge of my seat.
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Mirificus posted:Did you see that other guy that wants to have weekly family nights in their Star Citizen ship? No, but I am not loving suprised to be frankly honest. Jesus does this guy want to gently caress his kids up? this is how you gently caress your kids up. God forbid he would encourage actual human interaction.
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Mirificus posted:
did this motherfucker just congratulate himself on having a "gamer wife" did i read that right?!
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KJDavid posted:How the gently caress is any of this real life? I'm having trouble believing it's even fantasy.
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It finally happened! AND IT'S ALL OUR FAULT!! I feel horrible! And all of YOU should too!!  BTW thanks to the guy who gave me the background.
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You know, I have been posting in reddit for a bit thanks to all this stuff and Jesus Christ! does their upvote/downvote system ever suck. You cannot have a discussion with anybody because the other side is just hammering on the downvote button (I do the same thing obviously, ahahaha) as fast as they can. Sometimes I refresh my comment after five seconds and it is already at zero points, after which it doesn't move anymore because nobody else cares about the current conversation, it's just the other dude being extremely salty about disagreeing over the most uninteresting stuff. And god have mercy of your soul if you try to be funny because that.doesn't.compute *beep* *boop* alf_pogs posted:did this motherfucker just congratulate himself on having a "gamer wife" I have a gamer hand.
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Holy poo poo what does their qa department even do then? Do they have a qa department? An example of real QA I had to recreate an issue where a db listener just decided to gently caress off and stop responding. It only happened with 10k+ cps. You can bet I wrote up a test case to recreate it outside of production to debug and fix it 
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spacetoaster posted:It finally happened! AND IT'S ALL OUR FAULT!! Don't tease the goons, man.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Don't tease the goons, man. It felt good to write it though. Like, I was channeling Roberts. I feel like I was in his head.
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KJDavid posted:Were you covered in coke? Does playing MWO with goons while drinking vodka count?
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It is perfectly normal in games development, and really all business, that paying customers awaiting the delivery of their goods are told they will receive their product "when it's ready" or that "people always give me poo poo when I give dates so I'm not going to."
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Foul Ole Ron posted:No, but I am not loving suprised to be frankly honest. Mirificus posted:
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