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this is a good article but idk why he had to take a shot at Huey Long in the middle of it, Long is directly responsible for the back end of the New Deal which led to poo poo like the NLRB and the Social Security Administration. also iirc extending welfare to single mothers. like, of all people, why single that dude out
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Al! posted:that's not true by definition I had a seminar class on slavery and abolition and multiple people tried to make that dumb argument. our professor was not happy with them and we would talk poo poo about them after class
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Jan 29, 2016 14:57
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indigi posted:this is a good article but idk why he had to take a shot at Huey Long in the middle of it, Long is directly responsible for the back end of the New Deal which led to poo poo like the NLRB and the Social Security Administration. also iirc extending welfare to single mothers. like, of all people, why single that dude out huey long is famous for being crooked 
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Jan 29, 2016 14:58
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indigi posted:I had a seminar class on slavery and abolition and multiple people tried to make that dumb argument. our professor was not happy with them and we would talk poo poo about them after class that's a relief
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Jan 29, 2016 14:59
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indigi posted:I had a seminar class on slavery and abolition and multiple people tried to make that dumb argument. our professor was not happy with them and we would talk poo poo about them after class irish people were not chattel, they did not have it as bad as african slaves irish "slavery" is white supremacy lite
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Jan 29, 2016 15:00
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prefect posted:huey long is famous for being crooked yeah but he was the helpful type of crooked. idc about cronyism or vote rigging or whatever if you're actively helping the poor by taxing the rich and supporting labor by regulating business. that's that good poo poo
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Jan 29, 2016 15:01
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c seminar s: an hour left, send water
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Jan 29, 2016 15:02
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indigi posted:yeah but he was the helpful type of crooked. idc about cronyism or vote rigging or whatever if you're actively helping the poor by taxing the rich and supporting labor by regulating business. that's that good poo poo patronage in politics is universal but a politician is only considered crooked if they help their poor friends get jobs
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Jan 29, 2016 15:03
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:irish people were not chattel, they did not have it as bad as african slaves it was also a lot of good old fashioned classism. the same poo poo happened to Italians and Eastern Europeans when they came over in droves and were all poor with no access to traditional cultural safety nets. there's a difference in degree of how Latino immigrants are getting treated it's based on the same thing
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quote:Donald Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said on Thursday that his candidate would be “happy” to debate Ted Cruz once the Texas senator gets a federal judge to rule him eligible to run for president. 
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Jan 29, 2016 15:05
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indigi posted:it was also a lot of good old fashioned classism. the same poo poo happened to Italians and Eastern Europeans when they came over in droves and were all poor with no access to traditional cultural safety nets. there's a difference in degree of how Latino immigrants are getting treated it's based on the same thing in certain parts of New York Italians are still not considered white
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Jan 29, 2016 15:06
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i remember history books that said that ulysses s grant was a bad president and his administration was full of crooks, but then i later found out that was all part of a bullshit scheme by a surprisingly influential group of historians who wanted to make the confederacy look like good guys 
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Jan 29, 2016 15:09
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so is it the consensus that trump won the debate last night by not participating?
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Jan 29, 2016 15:12
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Al! posted:so is it the consensus that trump won the debate last night by not participating? news reports i've seen haven't been definite, but it sure looks like he didn't hurt himself much, if at all
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Jan 29, 2016 15:12
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Al! posted:in certain parts of New York Italians are still not considered white this is true in a lot of places. if you ask someone who's really into being white, they'll set you straight about Italians and probably Slavs
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Jan 29, 2016 15:13
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indigi posted:this is true in a lot of places. if you ask someone who's really into being white, they'll set you straight about Italians and probably Slavs i've heard a kkk person saying that jews aren't white actually, he said they were "the devil", and worse than black people
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a lot of people will fight you on Jews being white, including a lot of Jews e: like even if someone isn't actively racist but just really WASPy, they'll be like "well Jews are cool and we have to support Israel but they're definitely not white and they definitely control the media and banks"
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Jan 29, 2016 15:18
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prefect posted:i remember history books that said that ulysses s grant was a bad president and his administration was full of crooks, but then i later found out that was all part of a bullshit scheme by a surprisingly influential group of historians who wanted to make the confederacy look like good guys the portuguese monarchy gets a lot of poo poo from history books here, portraying them as inept buffoons I mean they were bad sure (but not total idiots), but this was a big moment to me as a kid noticing that a group of historians could be so biased
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I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to, but in retrospect they did kinda get swindled at Tordesillas
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prefect posted:news reports i've seen haven't been definite, but it sure looks like he didn't hurt himself much, if at all gently caress whatever as long as Cruz wins Cruz has threatened to unleash Armageddon over the pettiest of international slights which of course right wing politicians always promise but the man is so megalomaniacal that I truly believe he would do it as long as he got to be king of the bunker
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although it's my sneaking suspicion that the secret service is more like the praetorian guard than we think, and has a contingency plan for that kind of madness
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Jan 29, 2016 15:25
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Tusen Takk posted:cat Face Joe and sulk: I will be coming to a neighbourhood near you this spring (unless sulk is moving already) nice. we can have a dog park meet up
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Jan 29, 2016 15:26
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prefect posted:c thread s: can no longer be found by looking for "cjs"
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St Evan Echoes posted:lol if you dont just post in threads already in your bookmarks
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lmao star citizen was shut down?
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Jan 29, 2016 15:31
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Hmm. Guess not. Derek Smart may not be a reliable news source.
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i always thought cjs stood for computer janitor status lol
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Jan 29, 2016 15:33
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Citizen Tayne posted:lmao star citizen was shut down? no loving way
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vodkat posted:i always thought cjs stood for computer janitor status lol it does
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Citizen Tayne posted:Hmm. Guess not. Derek Smart may not be a reliable news source. god dammit I was hoping the drama would carry me through quitting time
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Jan 29, 2016 15:35
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Citizen Tayne posted:Hmm. Guess not. Derek Smart may not be a reliable news source.
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vodkat posted:i always thought cjs stood for computer janitor status lol current computer janitor job status: i'm not one
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I'm a garbage piece of poo poo human who loves to see others fail, and I was so excited for thirty seconds.
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Also from what I understand the Star Citizen community makes Train Simulator 2015 fans seem neurotypical.
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Jan 29, 2016 15:36
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Citizen Tayne posted:I'm a garbage piece of poo poo human who loves to see others fail, and I was so excited for thirty seconds. the failure wouldn't be what's interesting to me, it'd be the freakout by people who dropped multiple racks on jpegs of space ships that haven't even been designed yet let alone implemented
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Citizen Tayne posted:I'm a garbage piece of poo poo human who loves to see others fail, and I was so excited for thirty seconds. I don't think wanting to see excessive wealth and hubris punished makes you a bad person, that's some Protestant work ethic bullshit
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Citizen Tayne posted:Also from what I understand the Star Citizen community makes Train Simulator 2015 fans seem neurotypical. the one detail of star citizen i know is that an activity that people are excited about is bartending in space
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Jan 29, 2016 15:38
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Al! posted:I don't think wanting to see excessive wealth and hubris punished makes you a bad person, that's some Protestant work ethic bullshit well the problem is that he'd be failing with someone else's money, and all the coders/etc who would be out of a job would be the only ones who felt any economic impact by the game closing up shop
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Jan 29, 2016 15:39
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indigi posted:I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to, but in retrospect they did kinda get swindled at Tordesillas I think the biggest example that I can think of is how John VI escaped to Brazil instead of surrendering to Napoleon. most historians out of Brazil say it was an interesting move, maybe even smart? the history book that I read as a kid was like "john vi was a coward retard who ate too much chicken lmao, of course he wasn't man enough to deal with Napoleon"
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:the one detail of star citizen i know is that an activity that people are excited about is bartending in a game set in space ftfy. bartending in space would be actually pretty cool. you could do way more glass flipping tricks with much less chance of smashing them on the ground. plus you probably get to gently caress hot alien bitches
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