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Everything Burrito posted:Just pull the nib out and put it in a Metro. I couldn't imagine writing with the actual Plumix body, it's awful. the plumix is a delicate flower that is too good for you
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Remora posted:the plumix is a delicate flower that is too good for you That's why I put mine where it belongs the trash
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grack posted:Nathan Tardif is a certifiable nutcase and I think we should all be glad he channels that insanity into pretty fountain pen inks and mediocre (but fun) pens. Noodler's Oregon Standoff Tarp Blue
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blowfish posted:Noodler's Oregon Standoff Tarp Blue Waterproof, fast drying, safety ink because these colors dont run 
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Between using my TWSBI Eco for a while and I really really like it. The 1.1 stub nib writes nice and smooth, it flows nice and wet with J. Herbin ink, and the piston knob is firm enough at the end position that I haven't accidentally turned it at all. I got it on Amazon because Goulet was all out and I had an Amazon gift card to use.
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I really like my Eco as well. It's the only TWBSI I've ever owned, so I can't speak to quality and I know they've been a mixed bag for a long time in that sense, but I've had no problems and I think it writes really well. I like not having to use a converter and I like the way the ink looks in the clear barrel. I kind of wish the cap and piston knob were smoothly round instead of hexagonal but it's a very minor complaint.
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I think my Pilot Metro shenanigans have settled down, so I can ask about the ink here. It looks like whatever I'm doing, what I'm writing is coming out more faded. I thought I screwed up installing the black cartridge I'm using. Namely, I thought I did not dry it enough, and the ink get diluted by some water. However, even the blue that the pro in the store installed is less bold than what I am used to from my favorite old gel pens. Is this about right for Pilot ink? Is it time I got some Noodler's Tinfoil ink and Pelikan 4001?
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After looking at a few youtube reviews and some writing samples, I went ahead and ordered the Eco. I love the design and looks of it, can't wait to get it in and actually write with it
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I think my Pilot Metro shenanigans have settled down, so I can ask about the ink here. It looks like whatever I'm doing, what I'm writing is coming out more faded. I thought I screwed up installing the black cartridge I'm using. Namely, I thought I did not dry it enough, and the ink get diluted by some water. However, even the blue that the pro in the store installed is less bold than what I am used to from my favorite old gel pens. Is this about right for Pilot ink? Is it time I got some Noodler's Tinfoil ink and Pelikan 4001?  This is Pilot Black. The top bit's in a Pilot Fine, the noticeably heavier line's a Pelikan Fine, the bit that says Sheaffer is a ballpoint that might actually be blue, and don't worry about the red. The black is clearly black, but it's hardly the darkest black I've ever seen, and it's quite a bit lighter out of a finer point. I imagine Pilot's blue is much the same. There are, of course, way more saturated inks if that's what you're after. You'll have to have a look at fountainpennetwork's ink reviews section: they have individual reviews and then reviews that compare groups — that's probably what you want, if you're looking for a properly bright blue. Most first party colors aren't amazingly saturated, because they're meant to play nice, with certain exceptions: Aurora's Black is really goddamn black, and people seem to really like Waterman's Florida Blue (I think that's the blue they like, at any rate). The comedy option, of course, is "Buy Baystate Blue, and enjoy turning everything you own Blue forever." That said, if you don't dry a pen completely the ink'll come out faded, but that'll only last for like, a page at most, depending on how much water was still in the feed. I'm glad you Ecos have not sprung apart or anything. But from some of the pictures I've seen, is the octagonal piston always exposed if it's unposted? I mean, my Pelikan's like that, but that's a smooth knob and it seems to me that something with flat surfaces would be easier to accidentally rotate if you tossed it in a crowded pocket or something. God knows I've had screwoff caps come undone in a pocket like that. Is it just a non-issue?
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So far it's a non issue, it takes a bit of effort to move it from the "parked" position. I usually check the knob every time I take it out if my purse, but so far it's never been loose, and when capped it forms a good enough vacuum to make it a bit hard to turn even if you try. It is exposed, no blind cap. The cap posts very securely. I like the hexagonal design because it stays where I put it and doesn't roll. It's a feature I like in the Kakuno as well.
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Magnus Praeda posted:I feel the same about Noodlers as I do about Dr. Bronner's. Good products and I get to read the insane ramblings of a crazy person if I get bored enough. Yeah, I don't mean to imply Noodler's inks are bad (I think they run a little on the thin side but that's based on like 3 inks I have from Noodlers compared to a Waterman ink and two Iroshizuku inks) but Nathan is shitballs crazy. On the upside, it's easy to overlook. Dude doesn't plaster his website with poo poo or anything.
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pienipple posted:So far it's a non issue, it takes a bit of effort to move it from the "parked" position. I usually check the knob every time I take it out if my purse, but so far it's never been loose, and when capped it forms a good enough vacuum to make it a bit hard to turn even if you try. Yeah, I have a 540, 580AL and a Vac 700 and I've never had the knob move on me. It's been in my front pocket, pen cases, etc.
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Is there a good, affordable loose-leaf non-lined paper people use? I was taking notes for a podcast, but all I had that fit the bill was printer paper, but it's really thirsty and also makes all the writing look bad.
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mikeycp posted:Is there a good, affordable loose-leaf non-lined paper people use? I was taking notes for a podcast, but all I had that fit the bill was printer paper, but it's really thirsty and also makes all the writing look bad. Filofax makes some pretty good paper, and this is a blank refill pack. Personally I really like Rhodia paper, but I couldn't find any looseleaf.
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mikeycp posted:Is there a good, affordable loose-leaf non-lined paper people use? I was taking notes for a podcast, but all I had that fit the bill was printer paper, but it's really thirsty and also makes all the writing look bad. You could also just buy a bit nicer printer paper. Some of the nicer stuff is supposed to be pretty ok (I think Goulet always talks about using HP 24lb LaserJet for stuff like that, although most heavier laser paper should work ok).
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mikeycp posted:Is there a good, affordable loose-leaf non-lined paper people use? I was taking notes for a podcast, but all I had that fit the bill was printer paper, but it's really thirsty and also makes all the writing look bad. Buy some good (IE: not inkjet or "multipurpose") printer paper for writing on. The popular choices are the staples bagasse and HP 32lb. laser paper.
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posted here about issues with my Pilot "cleaning converter" getting hosed up. I stupidly bought a CON 70 only to find out it doesn't fit inside the Pilot metro. Fits the nib but not the barrel. Went ahead and bought a CON 50 for the Metro, but I can also confirm that the Pilot Kakuno will take the CON 70. Definitely the cheapest Pilot to do so, kakuno + converter is $21 on Amazon. Seems like a good buy if you want something budget that holds a lot of ink, CON 70 is ~1 ml, vs ~ .5 for the CON 50. Read that some older Kakunos won't fit the CON 70, and it might vary by color, but the grey Kakunos on Amazon will definitely fit no problem. Super excited to have a new pen and my old pen back.
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I got some Hero 616s today that had been in order for awhile. They come empty, right? I popped it open and it looks like there's a visible reservoir in there, and nothing's in it. I have to second-guess myself on all this. I have ink coming next week, so I'd be able to fill them eventually. That is unless I want to hatchet another one of my cartridges.
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I'd heard my grandma telling one of her friends on the phone how much she missed writing with a fountain pen when I visited her over Christmas. So today I gave a pilot metro for her birthday and it made her so happy she cried. Apparently the answer really is to get a metro.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I got some Hero 616s today that had been in order for awhile. They come empty, right? I popped it open and it looks like there's a visible reservoir in there, and nothing's in it. I have to second-guess myself on all this. I have ink coming next week, so I'd be able to fill them eventually. That is unless I want to hatchet another one of my cartridges. Don't those have a permanent squeeze reservoir? Edit: yes, they're aerometric fillers like the Parker they're a rip off of. pienipple fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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pienipple posted:Don't those have a permanent squeeze reservoir? Ahh okay I think I get it. So it is empty. I had to verify instead of just trying, because I'm still an idiot with these things. It's a miracle I haven't sent a fountain pen straight into my eye yet.
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Fountain pens must be shipped empty because chances are they'll leak when bumped around and subjected to plane cargo hold conditions.
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It looks like the place I ordered my ink will be taking some time to ship it since they got nailed in the blizzard. Meanwhile, can somebody explain what I should expect from a 12-pack of Hero 616s? I am assuming one of them may actually write better than my Metro, a few to be as comparable as I can tell, and the rest will be crap that need some adjustments. I do not really even have that high of an expectation. I wanted to have some spares I can use at work and elsewhere without feeling too bad if I lost them.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:It looks like the place I ordered my ink will be taking some time to ship it since they got nailed in the blizzard. Meanwhile, can somebody explain what I should expect from a 12-pack of Hero 616s? I am assuming one of them may actually write better than my Metro, a few to be as comparable as I can tell, and the rest will be crap that need some adjustments. They're kind of crappy. There are also a ton of rip offs of hero 616s (yes rip offs of rip offs) and they aren't really reliable. Watch out for jostling them as they leak way more than any other pens I have used. You might as well get a parker 51 as they are way way better than heros. I'd recommend not getting any chinese type fountain pen if you are concerned about reliability, durability, and quality. I only have bought a few and have had unpleasant experiences with them overall. Haven't had any issues with all of my pilots and Sailor pens but yes they are way more expensive than chinese pens. I'd even recommend TWSBIs over chinese pens. While they have pretty poo poo quality control they have better value and features over chinese pens in general and the ECO is a 30 dollar piston filler which works pretty well overall.
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blowfish posted:Fountain pens must be shipped empty because chances are they'll leak when bumped around and subjected to plane cargo hold conditions. That would be news to the dude who sold me my vintage Doric, the dang thing was filled with some kind of blue ink. There was ink all over the place. On the whole though, neat pen and I would love a modern reinterpretation of it. Speaking of which, out of Noodlers, Diamine, DeAtramentis, Iro, and Sailor which is the best choice for use with a vintage pen? Or is it more a matter of doing a good job cleaning between fills and not letting ink sit in the pen for a long time?
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The Parker 51 has been out of production for 44 years, guys. I think you can let the "rip off" thing go at this point. And I would suggest Diamine or Waterman ink for vintage pens if you have any concerns. Both work in essentially anything and are very safe. grack fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jan 31, 2016 |
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grack posted:The Parker 51 has been out of production for 44 years, guys. I think you can let the "rip off" thing go at this point. what would you suggest calling it? hero make rip-offs of western pens. that's their fundamental business model. the only difference between their parker 51 rip-off and their lamy safari rip-off is that the safari is still in production. it's not like old designs become original again with age or anything.
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If you consult a Chinese stationery salesman then you will surely discover that the Hero 616 has been in production for most of China's 5000 years of civilization and, as such, the Parker '51' is the real ripoff.
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The industry is full of copies. Often of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies etc. Why, exactly, are you choosing to act like a whiny bitch about Chinese companies doing the copying? I mean, I would love to hear your argument as to how the Platinum 3776, Pilot Custom 742 and Sailor 1911L aren't brutally obvious copies of the Mont Blanc 149 and thus don't deserve the same condemnation.
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howe_sam posted:That would be news to the dude who sold me my vintage Doric, the dang thing was filled with some kind of blue ink. There was ink all over the place. On the whole though, neat pen and I would love a modern reinterpretation of it. Diamine. Hands down. Noodlers isn't necessarily even good for modern pens. The Iro is a little on the acidic side.
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howe_sam posted:That would be news to the dude who sold me my vintage Doric, the dang thing was filled with some kind of blue ink. There was ink all over the place. On the whole though, neat pen and I would love a modern reinterpretation of it. If it's been re-sac'ed with a modern latex sac, they're all fine but Noodler's is the riskiest. If you've still got a vintage rubber sac in it I would be afraid to use anything other than Waterman, Montblanc, and maybe the less saturated Diamine inks.
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Life is short. Go with Baystate Blue
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grack posted:Life is short. Go with Baystate Blue Why does it have to be the most beautiful blue?  What's the best setup for trying out a lot of different inks? Pilot Metro + empty cartridge + needle/some way to fill the cartridge easily?
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The easiest would be a dip pen, but the color won't match up. You really want a converter you can fill like a quarter of the way or so.grack posted:The industry is full of copies. Often of copies, of copies, of copies, of copies etc. Isn't the story for the Hero 616 less "obvious copy" and more "literally Parker's tooling from after nationalization?"
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