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Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Foolster41 posted:

My falcon came in the mail!
I really need to figure out how to organize all this. I have pill boxes for my tokens, but my core box is bulging from all the cards. I kind of like having them in bags so I can just put them on the table and players can build for when I play casual games.

May I direct you to these handy tuckboxes?

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

overdesigned posted:

If they actually made them with free-swiveling wing-things I would lose my poo poo. Put a B-wing style mount in the butt of 'em.

So tempted to try to build one right now. The idea being I guess to build it around a small bolt with some nuts sandwiching a washer onto which the wings would be mounted.

I have such dumb ideas I have literally no skill at this whatsoever.

I'm won over on the Birmingham tourney I think, the tickets for UKGE are nowhere near as prohibitively expensive as I was expecting.

I'm doing a tourney in Evesham this weekend, I'm going to be running Soontir/Whisper/Omega Leader I think.

If I could afford the buy-in right now I would be looking at running OL/Vader/Soontir which seems like it would be amazingly annoying to fly against, but Vader plus Raider is just too much. Even though it would come with Palpatine.

(I bought into Scum this week, got the Khirxzixazzle, Most Wanted and Hound's Tooth in prep for Punishing One and Mist Hunter arriving god what am I doing)

Foolster41 posted:

My falcon came in the mail!
I really need to figure out how to organize all this. I have pill boxes for my tokens, but my core box is bulging from all the cards. I kind of like having them in bags so I can just put them on the table and players can build for when I play casual games.

E: I moved everything into a shoebox. Now everything fits into one box, or at least the cards and accessories. I don't have a foam sheet for the falcon yet.
Get something like this for the cardboard http://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/plastic-storage-box-22-x-35-x-5cm/570445-1000 - not this specific model though it's not QUITE deep enough for dials to sit in on end which is bugging the poo poo out of me right now. I've been through like 4 variations on stuff like this since I got into the game >.<

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


Well i just booked room + tickets for Birmingham so if you are going we should set up a meet.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
I'll have a word with my local gang this weekend and see what we're thinking about, but I'm gonna book the tickets anyway I think. What hotel did you get?

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


thespaceinvader posted:

I'll have a word with my local gang this weekend and see what we're thinking about, but I'm gonna book the tickets anyway I think. What hotel did you get?
My friend booked a twin at a premier inn about 20 mins away, not sure exactly were though. He's been before (had participated in the national last year).

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Fair enough. The con hotel is obscenely expensive so gently caress that poo poo. It's only an hour or so for me by train so I might just come up that way. I think it'll be about 2 hours door to door all told.

Can you get the link for the premier inn? If it's a more reasonable price it would certainly be more convenient to stay.

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...
I upgraded my card solutions recently, guess I'll give a trip report in the hope it'll be useful to someone else.

My ships are all in KR Multicases in a KR Backpack 2. Its now overcapacity so I just ordered a KR Backpack 4 and some more card cases. I like KR but it is far from cheap and its overkill for X-wing but I'm locked in now, anyone who asks I refer them to Plano cases except for that double-sided lockjaw one because flipping it over to get to stuff on the other side makes your entire collection shift and tumble and my nerves couldn't take it.) I have one of these (http://www.amazon.com/Plano-1374-Ra...plano+stow+n+go) for my Armada stuff and I wish I'd gone with this for my X-Wing over KR, though I do know my stuff is better protected at least.

For a while I was using a Broken Token Mini-American Card Case (http://www.thebrokentoken.com/mini-american-card-case/) for my upgrade cards and, for my pilot cards, 3 Ultra-Pro Deck Boxes, one for each faction. The Imperial box got so stuffed I had to pull out all the TIE/lns, TIE/ins, and TIE/fos to make room and put them in a 4th box. All these boxes went in the bottom of a toolbox (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-22-in-Cantilever-Plastic-Tool-Box-with-Metal-Latches-189745/202021302) along with a Parts Organizer (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-14-in-Parts-Bin-Organizer-83053N13/204536846) that is able to hold everything (tokens, templates, dice) I need to play. I need to do a little cutting and I'll be able to get my damage deck in there. A smaller parts organizer holds the epic-specific tokens. The top of that tool box holds the vast quantities of extra tokens I (and the rest of us) have ended up collecting, along with my Damage Decks.

Anyway, on to the upgrade. I realized that that Broken Token case would pop apart the first time it got dropped and it wasnt really practical for actually looking at the cards; the Ultra-Pro boxes are cheap and felt like they would eventually fall apart, so I ordered 2 Ultimate Guard Mini American FlexXfolios and 3 Ultimate Guard FlexXfolio 4-Pocket folios for my pilot cards, one for each faction.

All my pilot cards are in FFG sleeves, and these fit nicely the 4-pocket folios; 2 cards can stack in a single cell comfortably, 3 not so much. A single release ship, for example, the Kihraxz Fighter, will have 4 pilot cards and will fit nicely on a single side of one page in the folio; two of the same ship expansion can still fit on a single page, but 3+ will end up spilling over onto further pages. A multiple-release ship (Starter-set Ships, Aces ships) will probably take up 3-5 pages, depending. Having each faction in their own folio so far has left me with plenty of room to expand even though I am a "Buy 1+ of everything" collector type :homebrew:

Upgrade Cards are also in FFG sleeves; these fit snugly in the Mini American folio. I wish they were a tad looser, they snag a little going in if they are at a angle. Double stacking (sleeved) cards in a cell seems like a bad idea. I use 2 folios, the first holds all the upgrades except munitions, cannons, and turrets, the second holds those and epic-specific cards (hardpoints, cargo, teams) Again, despite having 1+ of everything I have plenty of room to expand.

Sorry if I sounded like a commercial.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
I should post some photos when I get home, but my wife got me two Plano 5321 cases that I built inserts for. I used a stiff foam and an X-Acto knife to cut divots and such for the ships. It holds them all pretty snugly, most are stored engine-side down. TIEs just require a couple slits cut into the foam to hold them in with sidewall pressure. Everything stays in well enough that I can hold the case upside down and wiggle and nothing falls out.
It's really slick for the small ships, but the big ships are not upside-down safe.

edit:
Also for cards, just take the plunge and buy the 3 ring binder sleeves. For the big ones and small ones, the Ultra Pro ones work great.

canyoneer fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jan 29, 2016

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
I present the Scum Version of Dutch Courage. I call it, the Kavilkade. It's first and probably only time being flown will be at a store tournament on Sunday. I fully expect to lose all my games. But I will let you know how it goes.

==================
[Kavilkade]
==================


100 points

Pilots
------

Talonbane Cobra (37)
Kihraxz Fighter (28), Predator (3), Glitterstim (2), Engine Upgrade (4)

Graz the Hunter (30)
Kihraxz Fighter (25), Inertial Dampeners (1), Engine Upgrade (4)

Kavil (33)
Y-Wing (24), Twin Laser Turret (6), R4 Agromech (2), Veteran Instincts (1)

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




I ran Talonbane with Predator, Homing Missile, EU and Glitterstim, along with the 4 Z's with Feedback. Faced Howlrunner and 5 naked Bombers. I was too aggressive with Talon and got him killed but by then I was range 1 with a couple Z's and gave Howlrunner her last two damage. I kept blowing Feedbacks while his dice kept blanking out for attacks and defense. I ended up losing but he only had two Bombers with 3 hull each left. If I had swung around with Talon I probably could have got him. Feedbacks are fun.

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

canyoneer posted:

I should post some photos when I get home, but my wife got me two Plano 5321 cases that I built inserts for. I used a stiff foam and an X-Acto knife to cut divots and such for the ships. It holds them all pretty snugly, most are stored engine-side down. TIEs just require a couple slits cut into the foam to hold them in with sidewall pressure. Everything stays in well enough that I can hold the case upside down and wiggle and nothing falls out.
It's really slick for the small ships, but the big ships are not upside-down safe.

edit:
Also for cards, just take the plunge and buy the 3 ring binder sleeves. For the big ones and small ones, the Ultra Pro ones work great.

I've found that just cutting out the original packaging makes pretty good inserts for a plano case

overdesigned
Apr 10, 2003

We are compassion...
Lipstick Apathy

Admiral Joeslop posted:

5 naked Bombers

:stare:

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010





:wink:

It was a *lot* of hull to try and chew through.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Hey if any of you goons are in Southern WI, Pegasus Games in Madison is having its store championships on the 6th of February. We've still got 12 of 24 seats open.

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...
You know whats better than Barrel rolling Vader around one of your own TIEs to get R1 on Soontir, getting a TL, rolling blank/focus/Crit, spending the TL (forgoing a free second crit) to roll again and getting 2 hits, watching Soontir roll 4 dice and only getting 1 evade, taking 1 hit and 1 crit which turns out to be a Direct hit?

Nothing. Nothing is better than that. Eat my rear end Soontir.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Tequila Ranger posted:

You know whats better than Barrel rolling Vader around one of your own TIEs to get R1 on Soontir, getting a TL, rolling blank/focus/Crit, spending the TL (forgoing a free second crit) to roll again and getting 2 hits, watching Soontir roll 4 dice and only getting 1 evade, taking 1 hit and 1 crit which turns out to be a Direct hit?

Nothing. Nothing is better than that. Eat my rear end Soontir.

Actually what's better than that is a Falcon at 1 hull with no evade token, looking down the barrel of two hits and a crit from vader at range 3, triggering C3P0, guessing two evades, and rolling just that.

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...
Nope. Crit-clowning Soontier = Best Thing Ever.


Ok so last night was the 3rd and Final Round of Lord Angelo's Movie Memories X-Wing Tournament, and it was Episode VI on the menu tonight.

To Recap, 40 pts for Episode IV, +40 for Episode V, +40 for Episode VI

I used:
Week 1 / Episode IV:

Darth Vader (29)
Expert Handling (2)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 40

I went 2 and 2 with good ol' Vader here, and only 3 of 5 Brownie points issued from Lord Angelo, because Darth didnt fire Missiles. Wedge didnt Fire Proton Torps either but that didnt keep another dude from getting 5/5 points for his list. :rolleyes:

Week 2 / Episode V

Darth Vader (29)
Expert Handling (2)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

"Howlrunner" (18)
Juke (2)

"Night Beast" (15)

Total: 75

I went 2 and 1 with this list, and got 5 of 5 brownie points; Howlrunner and her wingman were def in ESB and I even ran them into some rocks just like the movie.

Week 3 / Episode VI

Darth Vader (29)
Expert Handling (2)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

"Howlrunner" (18)
Juke (2)

"Night Beast" (15)

"Winged Gundark" (15)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Total: 116

1 and 1 with this list but nobody cares about that, its all about the brownie points. Obsidian Squadron fought at Endor so this should be an easy 5, right?

3 of 5. "Judging was harsher this week on everybody because I took the entirety of the list into account and Darth Vader didn't fly his T/A in RotJ"

BTW the "Thematic Points" get added into the Win/Lose scores for the series, so 3pts is the same as a Modified Victory, and 5 is a Victory.

I'm thinking that the only squad you could make that would go 5/5/5 would be a combination or Red Squadron X wings, Gold Squadron Y's, and Wedge.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Wow I didn't think you'd go through with it. Subjective points for leagues are the worst. Everyone laughs about the famous one for the magic singleton format. Basing it on the movie is even worse than the worst since now you have this Star Wars grognard calling all the shots and probably using the EU (novelization, comic books) to defend some of their decisions.

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...

Chill la Chill posted:

Wow I didn't think you'd go through with it.

Gotta get dem Wangs, nah'im'sayin?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



As someone who's all elbows, thumbs, and rear end moving ships around, this actually seems like a pretty good idea:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gamersdoor/magnetic-war-mats-wave-2/updates

Prices aren't terrible compared to a neoprene mat, either. I really like that Starkiller design.


Tequila Ranger posted:

3 of 5. "Judging was harsher this week on everybody because I took the entirety of the list into account and Darth Vader didn't fly his T/A in RotJ"

What the gently caress? Did you point out that he's the guy who made it escalation style in the first place, and that criteria makes it literally impossible for an Empire player to get his brownie points unless he sticks to generics (and even then he can be lovely about squadron identification!), while the Rebs can run the generally pretty good Wedge while laughing all the way to the bank? Vader is the only survivor of the Battle of Yavin. What a colossally, monumentally stupid format.

There's a saying that people trying to get people out of bad TTRPG relationships and disfunctional groups that "no gaming is better than bad gaming" and I think that applies to your wang situation.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Tequila Ranger posted:

Gotta get dem Wangs, nah'im'sayin?

I took my friend, who only had 2 practice/learning games, to a tournament last night. On the ride back, unprovoked, he told me, "Man, I love the wangs. I can't wait for more wangs." I told him he could borrow my list as long as he'd like, but knowing how this usually goes (worked for 2 other friends so far), first hit's free. By the next paycheck, he'll have a Vespa list.

Gerdalti
May 24, 2003

SPOON!
I've never played this, but a few people at work have been talking about getting a game night going once in awhile, with this being the premier game.

We'd probably be playing 2-3 person matches with 100 points. I assume I'd want to buy the "Force Awakens" core set, and then some addons, what would be a good base setup for a 100 point game? I don't have a preference as to which faction.

nilstryfe
Dec 22, 2004
Hong Kong Cavalier

Tequila Ranger posted:

a recap of the utter insanity of some crazy sperglord ruining the fun of xwing in a league format

This is the worst thing related to X-Wing leagues that I've ever heard of. This Angelo person is awful. I cannot understand why you or anyone else would willingly be a part of this.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Gerdalti posted:

I've never played this, but a few people at work have been talking about getting a game night going once in awhile, with this being the premier game.

We'd probably be playing 2-3 person matches with 100 points. I assume I'd want to buy the "Force Awakens" core set, and then some addons, what would be a good base setup for a 100 point game? I don't have a preference as to which faction.

You can get either core.

If you're flying casual, you can make a decent 100 point list with just the TFA Core set and a Falcon expansion for $70 MSRP, and have Poe escorting Han around blasting stuff. One of the more reasonably priced entry points IMO, and gives you fun ships with iconic characters.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Wow it's almost like letting some dork hand out league points based on his ~immersion~ is a terrible loving idea, who knew.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Chill la Chill posted:

Wow I didn't think you'd go through with it. Subjective points for leagues are the worst. Everyone laughs about the famous one for the magic singleton format.

Google tells me this is just a format where everything is restricted? That sounds like an interesting and inherently objective constraint, unless I'm missing something.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Otisburg posted:

Google tells me this is just a format where everything is restricted? That sounds like an interesting and inherently objective constraint, unless I'm missing something.
Well, you asked for it :getin:
http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/commander/23603_armada_league_points_system.html

Sheldon is infamous in the magic thread and EDH circles everywhere about his opinions on a ~casual~ format. He has a bunch more articles similar to that wherein he navel gazes about the platonic ideal for this made-up format that was originally used to test a judge's comprehension of esoteric magic rules.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


I took part of a league which was Shadows of the Empire themed and they just stopped you using certain pilots that were dead by that point. Also only one person could fly a certain named pilot per week. We didn't have theme brownie points either, that sounds loving awful.

Had a really exciting much which ended when my last standard by ship, a Z-95, destroyed Echo by sniping it's last hit point even though it was cloaked. That pilot deserves a medal

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
I would only be cool with brownie points if they led to receiving literal brownies and had nothing to do with the tournament.

Actually gently caress it, I would call them beer points for the after party.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Chill la Chill posted:

Well, you asked for it :getin:
http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/commander/23603_armada_league_points_system.html

Sheldon is infamous in the magic thread and EDH circles everywhere about his opinions on a ~casual~ format. He has a bunch more articles similar to that wherein he navel gazes about the platonic ideal for this made-up format that was originally used to test a judge's comprehension of esoteric magic rules.

Oh Jesus, the EDH games taking up most of the store while we're playing X-Wing has a similar poorly defined points system that seems to be announced at the start of the round. Did you bring a deck that wants to counterspell? Too bad, that's negative points tonight.

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

So, Maarek Stele, Delta Squadron Pilot, and Darth Vader. Can a workable list be made of those three? I want to relive my days of absolutely slaughtering Zaaron's traitorous rear end.


Edit: I dont play the game, so I don't know point costs or whatnot, but Stele in a TIE/D with Ion Cannons, some laser cannons, launchers, and tractor beams, overkill?

Kilo147 fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jan 29, 2016

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Probably. Do we have a points cost for TIE/D Maarek yet?

EDIT: If he's one point more than Vessery due to PS, then you'll have 5 points to play with for the list. Nine if you use the X7 Title, which is enough for a full Vader (EU/Predator/Title/ATC) and VI on Maarek for PS9, and the other Defender naked. Or you could put VI on Vader and give Maarek a 3 point EPT, or something similar.

Strobe fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 29, 2016

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Can anyone do stats on whether Talonbane or Wedge is better at R3, and R1?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
R1 Talonbane; +1 die of damage > -1 die of agility, because red dice deal more than green dice reduce on average. I think.

Range 3 I don't see how it's a contest, Wedge's ability still works in the offence but Talonbane's only works in defence.

Overall, probably Wedge, because the Astromech slot just has so much better stuff in it than the Illicit, not to mention the extra shield being better than the extra hull. I mean, just the likes of R2D2 own anything that Illicit can currently offer. But I much prefer Talonbane's ability.

E: also, FFG y u no preview Punishing One.

And y u no loving release wave 8 goddamnit I want my flying loo seat.

thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 29, 2016

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

bunnyofdoom posted:

Can anyone do stats on whether Talonbane or Wedge is better at R3, and R1?

Depends on what mods you can get going, and how many green dice you're shooting at plus the defenders' tokens. In general without mods, the five dice have a higher damage cap, but the 4 dice plus reduced evades is going to do more reliably damage to a ship that has 3 agility (average of 2.22 hits per evade for Talonebane, 2.67 per evade for Wedge. That means that Wedge is more likely to hit but Talonbanes hits are going to be bigger when the dice fail).

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...

Otisburg posted:

What the gently caress? Did you point out that he's the guy who made it escalation style in the first place, and that criteria makes it literally impossible for an Empire player to get his brownie points unless he sticks to generics (and even then he can be lovely about squadron identification!), while the Rebs can run the generally pretty good Wedge while laughing all the way to the bank? Vader is the only survivor of the Battle of Yavin. What a colossally, monumentally stupid format.

There's a saying that people trying to get people out of bad TTRPG relationships and disfunctional groups that "no gaming is better than bad gaming" and I think that applies to your wang situation.

nilstryfe posted:

This is the worst thing related to X-Wing leagues that I've ever heard of. This Angelo person is awful. I cannot understand why you or anyone else would willingly be a part of this.

Kai Tave posted:

Wow it's almost like letting some dork hand out league points based on his ~immersion~ is a terrible loving idea, who knew.

I've been going to this league for about 6 months. Normally the league is much more conventional, either a series of 100pt mini-tournaments or non-restricted escalation, and while the format of this particular escalation was really bad, I did enjoy playing with my wangs, flew a few pilots that I would not have flown otherwise, and I got some more practice and knowledge about the game. Everybody involved is chill and friendly, including Angelo.

Moving on, could someone repost the threads favorite OG T-65 Triple X-Wang list?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Which one? Do you want Opportunist Bully Wedge, or do you want Stress Jansen?

Wedge Antilles (29) [34]
R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Opportunist (4)

Wes Jansen (29) [31]
R5 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)

Luke Skywalker (28) [33]
R2-D2 (4)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)

Total: 98


Wedge Antilles (29)
R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Predator (3)

Wes Jansen (29)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Veteran Instincts (0)
Optional: Flechette Torpedo (2)

Luke Skywalker (28)
R2-D2 (4)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)

Total: 98/100

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Otisburg posted:

As someone who's all elbows, thumbs, and rear end moving ships around, this actually seems like a pretty good idea:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gamersdoor/magnetic-war-mats-wave-2/updates

I got one of these from the first kickstarter.

It's friggin awesome if the ships have magnets on them. The downside is that since I bring it to my FLGS when I play the chances of my opponent having magnets on their ships is minimal, and those mats are as slippery as vinyl.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Floppychop posted:

I got one of these from the first kickstarter.

It's friggin awesome if the ships have magnets on them. The downside is that since I bring it to my FLGS when I play the chances of my opponent having magnets on their ships is minimal, and those mats are as slippery as vinyl.

Couldn't you just have them use your spare bases?

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Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

I've offered, but no one seems to take me up on the offer.

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