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oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Krispy Kareem posted:

Worked on my oldest child. I spanked her once. In the ten years since she's never done anything so wrong as to require a physical response. Whether that's the exception that proves or disproves the rule I don't know.



How can yu even look at yourself in the mirror after that? Knowing you've ruined your child's life, at least If thslats what yu can call it after what she's been through? She hates you, you know.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

How can yu even look at yourself in the mirror after that? Knowing you've ruined your child's life, at least If thslats what yu can call it after what she's been through? She hates you, you know.

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

It is really not subjective at all, actually

Corporal punishment may "work" in that it stops the undesirable behavior, but study after study after study have linked it to externalizing behavior later in life, and viewing violence as an acceptable method of venting emotion or stopping behavior they don't like in others :v:

e: The second article makes a good point in that spanking leads to the kid resorting to violence themselves, which will get back to the parent and cause MORE spanking, etc.


ratbert90 posted:

There we go, I fixed that for you, at least say what you did instead of sugar coating it.


Scathach posted:

Congrats, you hurt and frightened your child into behaving. Your kid never did anything to require a physical response in the first place. Jesus.

E: lol, zika being caused by GMOs.

Goons :rolleyes:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Oh you goons, reading and posting peer reviewed studies on corporal punishment and how it's bad. What idiots! :rolleyes:

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Child abusers. :rolleyes:

Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

Cutest tumor in all of Oncology!
I'm willing to split the difference here. Don't hit your kids, but children don't count as real people with rights and all that bullshit.

V I even typed that in his voice, kudos.

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Aramek posted:

I'm willing to split the difference here. Don't hit your kids, but children don't count as real people with rights and all that bullshit.

Finally, a sensible compromise.

I'm meeting you half-way, you stupid hippies.



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The most important difference is that the poor are creating these messes just trying to survive while the rich are creating their messes while living a rich rear end in a top hat leisure lifestyle.


There's that whole per-capita thing, as well. That picture is trying to compare environmental damage of a very large group of people to the damage caused by one person.
I bet the per-person environmental damage for Allen is a bit higher than it is for any of the poor folks.

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SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
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Actually it is a massively discussed topic, there are probably hundreds of NGOs working to rectify the problem, I even went on a field school where pollution and lack of recycling infrastructure was a topic of discussion. No one is picking on the rich vs poor when reporting this singular incident.

Plus the guy is kind of famous. How many poor people living in developing countries are famous? Fame generates news. I bet there are tons of incidences of rich assholes anchoring their yachts in bad places and causing irreparable damage that we don't hear about.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Picnic Princess posted:

Actually it is a massively discussed topic, there are probably hundreds of NGOs working to rectify the problem, I even went on a field school where pollution and lack of recycling infrastructure was a topic of discussion. No one is picking on the rich vs poor when reporting this singular incident.

Plus the guy is kind of famous. How many poor people living in developing countries are famous? Fame generates news. I bet there are tons of incidences of rich assholes anchoring their yachts in bad places and causing irreparable damage that we don't hear about.

The most important difference is that the poor are creating these messes just trying to survive while the rich are creating their messes while living a rich rear end in a top hat leisure lifestyle.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

CommonShore posted:

The most important difference is that the poor are creating these messes just trying to survive while the rich are creating their messes while living a rich rear end in a top hat leisure lifestyle.

Maybe the poor should just die.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
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Biplane posted:

Maybe the poor should just die.

They could eat the rich, solving two problems at once.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Biplane posted:

Maybe the poor should just die.

If only the rich could find a way to anchor their boats near some poor settlement.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe
When I think of the world's poor I think grief-free lives for sure, those ecological lucky duckies.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
e: Trigger warning: rich vs poor divide
What if the poor spanked the rich? Would that bring about the desired change in their behaviour, or would it lead to tipping less than 15% later in life?

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow
All we need is to find a final solution. Then with the problem fixed only rich will be left.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

StarMinstrel posted:

All we need is to find a final solution. Then with the problem fixed only rich middle class will be left.

ftfy

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~
In my community, people who don't hit their kids often end up with children who go "gently caress OFF DEBBIE IM 14 NOW I DON'T HAVE TO loving LISTEN TO YOU"

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The Worst Muslim posted:

In my community, people who don't hit their kids often end up with children who go "gently caress OFF DEBBIE IM 14 NOW I DON'T HAVE TO loving LISTEN TO YOU"

Perhaps the people in your community aren't hitting their kids and also failing at raising them in other ways?

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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I knew a guy who got spanked as a kid and he died in a car accident at 26.

Senf
Nov 12, 2006

oldpainless posted:

I knew a guy who got spanked as a kid and he died in a car accident at 26.

My Dad never spanked me and he died from an aneurysm at 49.

Somebody should look in to how these relate, no ???

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

The Worst Muslim posted:

In my community, people who don't hit their kids often end up with children who go "gently caress OFF DEBBIE IM 14 NOW I DON'T HAVE TO loving LISTEN TO YOU"

You mean normal teenagers?

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~

Henchman of Santa posted:

You mean normal teenagers?

Found one. Tell us how Stephanie isn't your real mom and you can smoke weed in your room if you want.

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~
A young single mother is exasperated as her small child screams its lungs out because it didn't get the toy it wanted. She drags him along but he refuses. She gets tired of it and tries to lay a hand on him but A GOON (tm) nobly defends the small sack of screams.

"Excuse me ma'am, perhaps your child is too young to understand why he is being spanked. Try not spanking him. You're welcome "

He flies away as the child begins tearing down products from the shelves.

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~
"gently caress YOU MARK" screams the 10 year old as he punches a wall. The Wise Goon steps in and whispers to his father, "Perhaps you should try reasoning with him. After all he seems like a normal teenager".

The man begins, "Joseph I think that your behaviour is out of line..."

Joseph gives his father the finger and locks himself in his room.

The Goon smiles. Mission Accomplished.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

The Worst Muslim posted:

"gently caress YOU MARK" screams the 10 year old as he punches a wall. The Wise Goon steps in and whispers to his father, "Perhaps you should try reasoning with him. After all he seems like a normal teenager".

The man begins, "Joseph I think that your behaviour is out of line..."

Joseph gives his father the finger and locks himself in his room.

The Goon smiles. Mission Accomplished.

"Spare the rod, spoil the child who will grow up to be a goon"

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Worst Muslim posted:

"gently caress YOU MARK" screams the 10 year old as he punches a wall. The Wise Goon steps in and whispers to his father, "Perhaps you should try reasoning with him. After all he seems like a normal teenager".

The man begins, "Joseph I think that your behaviour is out of line..."

Joseph gives his father the finger and locks himself in his room.

The Goon smiles. Mission Accomplished.
You're trying to make funny, long-winded posts, but it isn't working.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Fried Watermelon posted:

It's almost as if people who were spanked as kids have a slight anger towards those who spank their kids!

I was hit as a kid and raised with a military disciplined dad, and it hosed me up bad. I was more submissive in my life and unquestionably accepted authority.

It's not a surprise that I am very hesitant of authority and people who hold control over others.

The biggest flaw in spanking your kids is the fact that there are families out there who have raised awesome kids without ever hitting their child.

Hey child abuse buddy! Same here, along with getting my arm (re)broken once, and pushed down the stairs twice. I felt ill whenever I disagreed with people for the longest time, but eventually got it, mostly.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

The Worst Muslim posted:

"gently caress YOU MARK" screams the 10 year old as he punches a wall. The Wise Goon steps in and whispers to his father, "Perhaps you should try reasoning with him. After all he seems like a normal teenager".

The man begins, "Joseph I think that your behaviour is out of line..."

Joseph gives his father the finger and locks himself in his room.

The Goon smiles. Mission Accomplished.

We get it. You really want to hit children.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
There really is nothing more pathetic than writing fanfiction to try and prove your point.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

The Worst Muslim posted:

"gently caress YOU MARK" screams the 10 year old as he punches a wall. The Wise Goon steps in and whispers to his father, "Perhaps you should try reasoning with him. After all he seems like a normal teenager".

The man begins, "Joseph I think that your behaviour is out of line..."

Joseph gives his father the finger and locks himself in his room.



The dad let's the 10 year old cool down in his room, afterwards the father and the son have a long talk about why such behavior is wrong, and that's why he's grounded for the next week.

The son grows up to be a wise man who also doesn't physically abuse his children.

The goon smiles, mission accomplished.

DavidAlltheTime
Feb 14, 2008

All David...all the TIME!
Goon hit a post buton. Mishin acknowlplished.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
TWM at least is funny. You whiny motherfuckers are not.

I had a pick of a sad motherfucker asking about what some browser hijacker that turned out to have come from some porn sites or something but lost it. Just ~use your imagination~

Instead have this incredibly retarded bullshit, which is almost as poo poo as your boring not debate of manchildren about real children: http://reason.com/archives/2015/09/15/bernie-sanders-first-libertarian-sociali

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


TWM you are aware that there are discipline options other than "do nothing" and "hit child," yes?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Deceitful Penguin posted:

TWM at least is funny.

Untrue.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Biplane posted:

Maybe the poor should just die.

If they would rather die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


DavidAlltheTime posted:

Goon hit a post buton. Minion acknowlplished.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

[RANT] Quit Having adult Fun, my kid is playing a game above his age range. (self.childfree)

As 29 year old gay male with no interest in crotch spawn, mine or others, it's frustrating beyond belief to see parents in other subs wagging their dad fingers in my digital face and asking "how would you talk if your son was playing with you"

I'd talk how I always do because my theoretical and wholly unwanted 12 year old son has no business playing a game that barely squeaked under an M ESRB rating... quit telling me to watch my language, you're his dad, not mine.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Make sure to beat your kids


at video games.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Now I know what it's like (self.childfree)

Hi. Lurk here often, love you all. My wife and I are child free, but I now believe I know what it's like to parent a child but without whatever the "good parts" supposedly are.

So my 80yo MIL moved in with us last summer. It was the right thing and we're glad we were able to do it, but this is EXACLTY why I don't want kids. Let me say first that she's been tested and she does NOT have dementia. But like a teenager, she doesn't remember a drat thing you tell her. You have to repeat yourself over and over. She's just lazy about things she could drat well do herself. My grocery bill has skyrocketed. Like some kind of toddler, when she wants something, she wants it RIGHT NOW no matter what you might be doing. Her solution to everything is to go buy some gadget. I want to yell "we're not made out of money!!!!" She gets her feelings hurt if she doesn't get enough attention. Always carting her off to the doctors. She has inexplicable rules for everything that she can't deviate from. Apparently khaki sheets are an apostasy and she can't sleep on them?

I can't wait for her to go off to college!

porkswordonboard
Aug 27, 2007
You should get that looked at

If you've spanked your kid, it doesn't automatically make you a terrible person.

If you've read any of the many peer reviewed studies on why it doesn't achieve the effect you're looking for long-term (respect for others, learning to manage emotions, etc) and STILL hit your child, you're a terrible person.

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ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Huh, just remembered why this thread quality goes up and down

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