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eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Silver Alicorn posted:

should I run mac os 8 or 9 when I get this ibook

or X I guess

the latest classic OS, it'll be nicer at 800�600

# ? Jan 31, 2016 05:18

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# ? May 24, 2024 02:41

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Silver Alicorn posted:

should I run mac os 8 or 9 when I get this ibook

or X I guess

9; there is really no reason to run 8 on something that fast, plus it gives you more compatibility with Carbon applications

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:05

r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

OS9 removed support for compressed resources and it breaks a bunch of the old After Dark screensavers

There's supposed to be a way to uncompress the resources to get around it but I couldn't figure out how

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:19

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

O yeah I have the whole Myst series it's pretty good on Mac (I also have the pre-Masterpiece Edition version of Myst for Mac which has slightly better sound)

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:34

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Also, Oregon Trail II

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:34

Sniep: Mar 28, 2004; All I needed was that fatty blunt...

King of Breakfast

yeah myst is like the one rare port from mac to PC for a game

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:36

graph: Nov 22, 2006; aaag peanuts

Sniep posted:

yeah myst is like the one rare port from mac to PC for a game

halo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxdgo1rFcxU

# ? Jan 31, 2016 08:40

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Spectre

Glider, which John Calhoun just made Open Source, along with motherfuckin Pararena

# ? Jan 31, 2016 09:09

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Lol at everyone using the os from when apple was legit doomed

Brb gonna reinstall windows me just to rep my os, laffo

# ? Jan 31, 2016 15:34

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Oh man, hang on, getting suuuper nostalgic for Android 2.1!

# ? Jan 31, 2016 15:39

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

when the alternative was windows 95/98 yeah

# ? Jan 31, 2016 15:41

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

The Puppet Master posted:

remember back when getting online required the sound of a robot orgasm to loudly reverberate your house?

furiously smashing mute for late night clandestine porn sessions

# ? Jan 31, 2016 16:11

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

atomicthumbs posted:

here's my PDP-11/73

Wikipedia says it best: "Introduced in 1983, this system used the Jaws-11 chip set and the Q-Bus, with a clock speed of 15.2 MHz."

basically, this was a miniaturized PDP-11 used in various sytems that would be well-served by a PDP-11 but that didn't need a serial connection to a Big Ol PDP-11. once microchips started being a thing (LARGE SCALE INTEGRATION), DEC discovered that you can take a thing that takes up dozens or hundreds of circuit boards and thousands of components and put it on one or two chip dies.

If you had a VT-103 terminal, you could build an entire computer like this inside it.

the computer, as a whole, is the Q-Bus card cage, which is just a dumb backplane with a power supply connector and a bunch of cards in it. It's a cheaper and smaller revision of the earlier Unibus, created by multiplexing the address and data lines.

The CPU card (a KDJ11A, the thing that makes it a PDP-11) is in the front. The two dies are a "data path chip" and a "control chip" and I have no idea why they're separate or how they work. It's 16-bit, just like all the other PDP-11s, and its clock speed is pretty high for the time.

This particular computer was inside a Kevex electron microscope controller. Besides the CPU card, it's also equipped with a 1.1 kiloword RAM card (which goes over the same Q-bus connection as everything else so it's pretty slow), a GTSC 304 4-port serial card (equivalent to DEC's DLV11-J), a Data Translation EP050 data acquisition card, a Kevex electron microscope controller card, and a GTSC 360/361 SCSI controller card.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work yet. I need to find or build a power supply for it and connect it to a terminal, and to the Quantum ProDrive that came with it. Someday, it will boot, but for now it just sits there looking kinda neat.

it used an r12000, which is the same family as the playstation cpu, the r3000. that amused me and upon further research i found out the r3000 debuted in 1988 :eyepop:

it wasn't cheap enough for a james machine until six years later i guess

# ? Jan 31, 2016 17:11

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Panty Saluter posted:

it used an r12000, which is the same family as the playstation cpu, the r3000. that amused me and upon further research i found out the r3000 debuted in 1988 it wasn't cheap enough for a james machine until six years later i guess

the playstation was under development for like a decade. if it had come out on time it would have been a very expensive console.

the remarkable thing about the psx is that it's really a very ordinary architecture. it looks a lot like an early 1990s unix workstation under the covers. no weird coprocessors, no funny memory, just a RISC cpu and a bus and some memory and some devices hanging off the bus

# ? Jan 31, 2016 18:53

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the playstation was under development for like a decade. if it had come out on time it would have been a very expensive console.

if the 3do's any indication it also would have had a lovely, lovely library poisoned by incomprehension of optical media and 3d graphics

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 31, 2016

# ? Jan 31, 2016 19:45

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

it's amazing that being all of two years ahead of its time was enough to kill that thing

# ? Jan 31, 2016 19:49

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the playstation was under development for like a decade. if it had come out on time it would have been a very expensive console.

the remarkable thing about the psx is that it's really a very ordinary architecture. it looks a lot like an early 1990s unix workstation under the covers. no weird coprocessors, no funny memory, just a RISC cpu and a bus and some memory and some devices hanging off the bus

Well the psx was supposed to be very easy to develop for, so that makes sense

# ? Jan 31, 2016 20:24

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Sham bam bamina! posted:

it's amazing that being all of two years ahead of its time was enough to kill that thing

700 dollars with little but some edutainment software for a library L M A O

# ? Jan 31, 2016 20:25

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

I played some jurassic park game on 3d0 that was fun

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:03

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

the 3do had some good games, like need for speed, crash n burn, road rash,

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:07

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Sham bam bamina! posted:

the 3do had some good games, like need for speed, crash n burn, road rash,

yeah just not at launch or for several months after

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:08

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

crash 'n' burn was the launch title actually

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:10

Olivil: Jul 15, 2010; Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

that generation was a clusterfuck early on

theres a reason we only remember the n64 and the psx

the jaguar, the 3do and even the saturn were (hard to develop for) pieces of poo poo

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:27

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

a sweet addition to my useless old computer poo poo collection, i'm spurtin here

i could swear that came on the cd version of win95. if not, then it came on some other cd that came with an old p1-122 mhz gateway 2000 i had

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:32

Beve Stuscemi: Jun 6, 2001

sega 32x supremacy

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:33

Beve Stuscemi: Jun 6, 2001

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

sega 32x supremacy

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:43

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

32⁵ is... that's, like, 32 megabit!!! :aaa:

# ? Jan 31, 2016 21:44

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Olivil posted:

the jaguar, the 3do and even the saturn were (hard to develop for) pieces of poo poo

the jag was a failure but the 3do and saturn were failed

:emo:

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:25

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

the 3d0 had great conversions of samurai shodown and sf2 turbo

shame they didnt lead with them

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:31

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

the DECstation 5000 running Ultrix was a p nice MIPS R3000 system for its time, the R2000-based DECstation 3100 ("pmax") was a bit of a dog though

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:32

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

i wonder if a 3d0 blaster could be made to work in win 10

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:32

Olivil: Jul 15, 2010; Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

i have a dec alphaserver something something somewhere

its loving loud and lol @ the alpha architecture imo

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:33

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Panty Saluter posted:

it used an r12000, which is the same family as the playstation cpu, the r3000. that amused me and upon further research i found out the r3000 debuted in 1988 it wasn't cheap enough for a james machine until six years later i guess

did you quote the wrong post here

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:46

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Olivil posted:

its loving loud and lol @ the alpha architecture imo

fuk u

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:48

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

the DECstation 5000 running Ultrix was a p nice MIPS R3000 system for its time, the R2000-based DECstation 3100 ("pmax") was a bit of a dog though

the decstations were reasonably nice hardware held back by literally the industry's worst unix.

ultrix was horrible. it didn't even have shared libraries. if you loaded "xterm" and "xclock" simultaneously, you got two copies each of libX11 and libxcb in memory. this was a really, really horrible situation on a machine with 8 or 16 mb of RAM.

dec had a port of osf/1 ready for the mips systems, but never gave it an official retail release. (yes ultrix was so bad that it made osf/1 look good)

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:54

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

atomicthumbs posted:

did you quote the wrong post here

no? why do you ask

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:56

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

i have a decstation 5000/240 and a copy of osf/1 mips, but unfortunately the only scsi chassis i had that would talk to the 5000/240 went and died on me.

no 1990s RISC microkernel fury for me

the osf/1 mips "installer" almost works inside gxemul. it successfully boots the kernel in a miniroot, but the scsi tape emulation is not complete enough to finish an install.

# ? Jan 31, 2016 22:57

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Olivil posted:

i have a dec alphaserver something something somewhere

its loving loud and lol @ the alpha architecture imo

I threw out my DEC (well, it was branded Compaq) Alpha workstation a couple of months ago. It was too noisy, nothing worked on it anymore in regards to an OS and sucked down power big time

# ? Jan 31, 2016 23:09