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That was an all-around good episode. Solid character development, good fight, basically it only really suffered from some really really bad art in places. There were a few shots when Mika looked straight-up Slenderman. That said I will note this felt like the most "Gundam" episode of the series so far to me, probably because it involved Gundam vs Gundam combat where people were making a big deal out of Gundams.
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junopsis posted:but fumitan's still here ;_; 
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It's the first time in a long while when two Gundams on the good guys side wasn't enough to remotely take on the enemy. There's no way Barbatos and GusionGeese can take on one ship, let alone 8.
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Jan 31, 2016 19:59
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Which is good. We've had the illusion for a while that Mika and Tekkadan can always pull out some sort of successful fight, which really shouldn't be the case given both their numbers and the actual scale of Gjallarhorn - I'm interested in seeing where this goes.
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Also, congratulations to Ein for successfully managing to sortie without his commanding officer dying on him again! 
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That reminds me, Ein's on the poo poo list for going after an unarmed shuttle.
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Jan 31, 2016 20:40
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Tae posted:That reminds me, Ein's on the poo poo list for going after an unarmed shuttle. Worked out OK for Yzak in SEED.
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Midjack posted:Worked out OK for Yzak in SEED. And unlike Yzak, Ein was shooting at people going towards the fight, not away from it.
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Jan 31, 2016 21:23
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Yzak was a piece of poo poo. I think it's time they gave Barbatos a shield. Not like a traditional boring rx-rip off shield, something more outlandish or unique.
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Jan 31, 2016 22:07
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Ka0 posted:Yzak was a piece of poo poo. It originally had a shield. Then Mika had it destroyed (along with most of the Barbatos's left forearm) in his first fight with McGillis and Gaelio.
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Well, that was an interesting development. Nice to see Kudelia step up and assert her presence after all this time. Guision Easybake looks nice, as does the Ryusei-Go. But...yeah, Ein, you are not helping your case, buddy. Kind of hoping Gali Gali caught sight of that and chews him out for being a dumbass.
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I don't know, Ein did pretty good. He obeyed Gaelio's order not to engage the Barbatos, went for what was clearly a strategic objective instead, and successfully prevented his wingmate/superior officer from dying.
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Darth Walrus posted:And unlike Yzak, Ein was shooting at people going towards the fight, not away from it. Yzak thought he was shooting soldiers, Ein specifically thinks he is shooting children and news reporters. They're both shits. Lemon Curdistan posted:I don't know, Ein did pretty good. He obeyed Gaelio's order not to engage the Barbatos, went for what was clearly a strategic objective instead, and successfully prevented his wingmate/superior officer from dying. Gallio basically straight-up said that is lovely corrupt Gjallerhorn behavior earlier and I doubt he's gonna feel a bit different now.
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The only reason why Yzak was "redeemed" was because SEED added far more monstrous characters throughout the end of SEED and throughout Destiny.
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Jan 31, 2016 22:22
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ImpAtom posted:Yzak thought he was shooting soldiers, Ein specifically thinks he is shooting children and news reporters. They're both shits. To be more precise, Ein thought he was shooting enemy command deploying to their warship to engage in the battle. Those happened to be children, but so is literally everyone in Tekkadan, and that's just a moral dilemma he and the rest of Team Gjallarhorn have had to get past (Mika turning a bunch of their guys into fine red paste with that godawful-huge mace of his probably helped). The fact that they were using a press shuttle was iffy, but I guess he reasoned they'd stolen it, because while adventurous investigative journalism is to be commended, few reporters are dumb enough to fly out right into the middle of a literal war zone. Definitely less iffy than gunning down a fleeing evacuation shuttle that presented no immediate threat, regardless of the military status of its passengers.
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ImpAtom posted:Gallio basically straight-up said that is lovely corrupt Gjallerhorn behavior earlier and I doubt he's gonna feel a bit different now. The corrupt Gjallarhorn behaviour is false-flagging the workers and then giving them disabled weapons/mobile suits and wholesale massacring them, not "threaten the thing the enemy is guarding to gain the upper hand."
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Jan 31, 2016 23:05
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Flag status: raised so high it fell off the top of the flagpole and flew away on the wind. Seriously though, my heart was pounding through most of this weeks episode.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:10
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I really hope we get some development between blonde kid and earring guy next episode
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Jan 31, 2016 23:19
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Mika grin when he caught that Graze's arm owned but also terrified me.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:37
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Ka0 posted:Yzak was a piece of poo poo. One of them triangular pointy affairs the Uruk-hai used in The Two Towers.
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Jan 31, 2016 23:38
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Kind of ruined the tension though when the next episode preview showed gjallahorn letting them pass through when the cliffhanger has them asking "How will we get through?"
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galagazombie posted:Kind of ruined the tension though when the next episode preview showed gjallahorn letting them pass through when the cliffhanger has them asking "How will we get through?"
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NotALizardman posted:Mika grin when he caught that Graze's arm owned but also terrified me. I like that Mika is meant to be scary.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:I like that Mika is meant to be scary. The running gag of him not being able to remember Gaelio's name swung from "amusingly silly" to "chilling and creepy" so fast I almost got whiplash. "Oh, you're the guy with the chocolate guy-" "My name is Gaelio Bauduin!" "Gali gali?" "Are you making fun of me?!" "It doesn't matter what your name was because I'm about to kill you."
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Darth Walrus posted:To be more precise, Ein thought he was shooting enemy command deploying to their warship to engage in the battle. Those happened to be children, but so is literally everyone in Tekkadan, and that's just a moral dilemma he and the rest of Team Gjallarhorn have had to get past (Mika turning a bunch of their guys into fine red paste with that godawful-huge mace of his probably helped). The fact that they were using a press shuttle was iffy, but I guess he reasoned they'd stolen it, because while adventurous investigative journalism is to be commended, few reporters are dumb enough to fly out right into the middle of a literal war zone. Definitely less iffy than gunning down a fleeing evacuation shuttle that presented no immediate threat, regardless of the military status of its passengers. Ein has literally no idea who is in the shuttle, he just knows Mika is protecting it. Lemon Curdistan posted:The corrupt Gjallarhorn behaviour is false-flagging the workers and then giving them disabled weapons/mobile suits and wholesale massacring them, not "threaten the thing the enemy is guarding to gain the upper hand." Ein has literally no way of knowing who is in the shuttle, just that Mika protected it. We know who is the shuttle, Ein doesn't. Lemon Curdistan posted:I like that Mika is meant to be scary. Mika is legitimately scary in a really good way. There's no "chocolate man... do I really want to kill him?" but rather a legitimate enjoyment of battle and a genuine coldness that is really uncomfortable, especially when we know it isn't good for him. It also really helps a lot that Mika may say things that are amazingly good quotes but they have a creepy atmosphere to them when taken in context. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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ImpAtom posted:Ein has literally no way of knowing who is in the shuttle, just that Mika protected it. Yes, that's what I just said. He notices that the enemy is defending the shuttle, concludes that it's important, and tries to go after it.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Yes, that's what I just said. He notices that the enemy is defending the shuttle, concludes that it's important, and tries to go after it. Right. Which is him making a correct assumption but on faulty information considering Mika deployed to protect civilians in this particular fight. It could just as easily have been an actual news shuttle or associated with the rebels or whatever. The Yzak comparison is dead-on here because Yzak shot a fleeing shuttle thinking it was full of soldiers when it was full of civilians. Ein had no way of knowing who was in the shuttle and considering the situation in which he launched (i.e: the literal false flag massacre of civilians, which Ein is aware of) there's a lot of things it could have been besides the enemy leadership. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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galagazombie posted:Kind of ruined the tension though when the next episode preview showed gjallahorn letting them pass through when the cliffhanger has them asking "How will we get through?" Yeah, because the show was totally going to have everyone die in episode 18. AradoBalanga posted:Clearly Kudelia is about to roll a 20 and a crit on her diplomacy check. Once her speech started broadcasting to the entirety of the Earth Sphere, Gjallarhorn lost its chance to simply disappear Kudelia or have her killed in the confusion of battle. Killing her now would just prove her right about whatever she says in her speech. It also doesn't help Gjallarhorn that McGillis can probably sabotage their normal information control attempts regarding her, or that Nobliss has decided that she's currently more useful alive than dead and is thus putting his figurative and literal weight behind keeping her that way. On a different subject, I wonder what's happening with the part of Tekkadan that was left on Mars? We haven't heard anything from or about them in a while. Maybe they're going to be the subject of a side-story manga or something?
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The beardy Earth guy Kudelia was scheduled to meet shows up in the next episode preview. Betting he strong-arms Gjallarhorn into standing down.
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Midjack posted:Or tries to, anyway. Well, they're not (a) dead or (b) fighting for their lives in the preview, so his odds of success seem reasonably high.
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The Sandman posted:Once her speech started broadcasting to the entirety of the Earth Sphere, Gjallarhorn lost its chance to simply disappear Kudelia or have her killed in the confusion of battle. Killing her now would just prove her right about whatever she says in her speech. On that note, I'm legitimately curious as to what she said in her communication to Nobliss there. I realize in the grand scheme of things it's not really important what she said, which is why they didn't bother taking the time to show it... but it's still got me curious, especially seeing as how he went from complaining about how she wasn't as big a deal as McMurdo seemed to think she was, and then when he cut back to him, he's laughing to himself and marveling at her audacity to try using him when he'd already written her off as an unimportant pawn.
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Kudelia flipped a switch that much is sure.
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I think that what Kudelia said to Nobliss is actually important and will come up, perhaps even next episode. She's already shown that she can cut a deal with slimy sorts (McMurdo) for her cause, after all. It would be pretty interesting if he doesn't realize that she is on to his duplicity.
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Given that she's got major blackmail on him (he's the dude that supplied the rebels with weapons) i imagine it was pretty straightforward
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I love the pink Graze.
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Antlions posted:I love the pink Graze. Ein's outrage over his former commander's Graze being turned into that was hilarious.
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W.T. Fits posted:On that note, I'm legitimately curious as to what she said in her communication to Nobliss there. I realize in the grand scheme of things it's not really important what she said, which is why they didn't bother taking the time to show it... but it's still got me curious, especially seeing as how he went from complaining about how she wasn't as big a deal as McMurdo seemed to think she was, and then when he cut back to him, he's laughing to himself and marveling at her audacity to try using him when he'd already written her off as an unimportant pawn. I'm pretty sure she basically just went "do what I say or I expose you" which he wasn't expecting because she's Kudelia.
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