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PBS Newshour posted:This isn't elitism its having an opinion
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Feb 1, 2016 06:11
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my thing now is just calling every video game a baby game for babies, even the ones i like i haven't done it much here yet, but make sure to note that in your pbs canon wiki
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Feb 1, 2016 06:11
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kaschei posted:is your opinion better than others' mine def is
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Feb 1, 2016 06:14
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Amoeba102 posted:Give us the newshour on how things changed in Elder Scrolls. I forget how it used to be. A lot of the feeling and atmosphere in Morrowind isn't just created by its setting and story, which is what you typically hear about when comparing it to the new games, but also its systems. The systems actually helped i a lot of ways to reinforce your feeling of being an outsider and a stranger to the land. I am not saying making things user accessible is bad per say, but it defeintly is when its at the expense of gutting out makes so much of the game work, and also what they replaced poo poo with really isn't much better which makes it even more indefensible.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:15
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This is a dumb argument, and every time I hear someone arguing against accessibility in games, it inevitably comes down to "gently caress you for having fun, fun is only allowed for people who are willing to devote literally all their time to learning how to break complicated systems."
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Feb 1, 2016 06:16
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PBS Newshour posted:A lot of the feeling and atmosphere in Morrowind isn't just created by its setting and story, which is what you typically hear about when comparing it to the new games, but also its systems. The systems actually helped i a lot of ways to reinforce your feeling of being an outsider and a stranger to the land. Which systems specifically, and how did they change?
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Feb 1, 2016 06:17
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Also Oblivion is so much worse than Skyrim for the simple reason that there is no real exploration, you have like the whole map available the moment you get out on your own, you just warp to the next plot point, kill a dude, warp again, etc.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:19
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I felt very heroic swinging a big polearm through a crab and missing it
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Feb 1, 2016 06:19
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Allen Wren posted:This is a dumb argument, and every time I hear someone arguing against accessibility in games, it inevitably comes down to "gently caress you for having fun, fun is only allowed for people who are willing to devote literally all their time to learning how to break complicated systems." Again accessibility is terrible when he removes interesting aspect of games. You can do it smartly, or you can be lazy like Bethesda.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:20
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kaschei posted:I felt very heroic swinging a big polearm through a crab and missing it Game systems are not just combat.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:21
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What did they take away that ruined your life forever?
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Feb 1, 2016 06:22
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kaschei posted:is your opinion better than others' duh
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Feb 1, 2016 06:23
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the only good loving game is elevator action
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Feb 1, 2016 06:24
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Allen Wren posted:Also Oblivion is so much worse than Skyrim for the simple reason that there is no real exploration, you have like the whole map available the moment you get out on your own, you just warp to the next plot point, kill a dude, warp again, etc.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:25
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Amoeba102 posted:Which systems specifically, and how did they change? I see you dodging this question capps. also only suckers fast travel everywhere in bethesda games. I never fast travel. I also download mods that make me eat food and get sleepy.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:27
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Exploration and npc interaction
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Feb 1, 2016 06:28
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EccoRaven posted:I see you dodging this question capps. PBS Newshour posted:Exploration and npc interaction
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Feb 1, 2016 06:30
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I remember liking games where you had to type keywords in and see if NPCs responded and like 25% of gameplay was typing in the same keywords to every NPC you could reach and then typing all the keywords they gave you back at all the other NPCs Morrowind helpfully streamlined this so you can click on the keywords instead
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Feb 1, 2016 06:33
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kaschei posted:a glutton for punishment old news
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Feb 1, 2016 06:34
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kaschei posted:I remember liking games where you had to type keywords in and see if NPCs responded and like 25% of gameplay was typing in the same keywords to every NPC you could reach and then typing all the keywords they gave you back at all the other NPCs its so much better than everyone telling you their life story. somehow morrowind creates more interesting characters reusing generic dialogue than the later skyrim games. its amazing
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Feb 1, 2016 06:35
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I tried playing Morrowind, and I couldn't because it literally was the ugliest video game ever. People complain about games being nothing but brown and grey now? MW looked like somebody took a shot made of dust on my screen.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:37
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like i consider elitism in art to be saying something is dumb because you are smarter than it. that is seems to be elitism to me because you are saying you are better than the thing you are judging and all things must be judge against yourself.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:37
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I think it was p. bad... but there's a boat from Khuul, if you have any reason to go.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:40
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i just somehow accidentally friended keane on facebook
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Feb 1, 2016 06:40
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One thing that bothers me about Elder scrolls is that the Dwarves are actually just Elves. There are so many types of elves, and a few types of humans, but the other interesting races are just the one type. Orcs, cat people and lizard people are just homogeneous. But there are 3 playable elf races with however many other -mers out there, and 4? playable human races.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:40
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Like i didn't accept his request I think I accidentally sent him one somehow by misclicking oh god
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Feb 1, 2016 06:41
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PBS Newshour posted:i just somehow accidentally friended keane on facebook It's not what it's cracked up to be.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:42
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also when i am talking about systems i mean how the mechanics interact with you as a player, which people seem to be getting confused and are talking about mechanics instead
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Feb 1, 2016 06:42
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Amoeba102 posted:One thing that bothers me about Elder scrolls is that the Dwarves are actually just Elves. There are so many types of elves, and a few types of humans, but the other interesting races are just the one type. Orcs, cat people and lizard people are just homogeneous. But there are 3 playable elf races with however many other -mers out there, and 4? playable human races. *snort* well technically...
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Feb 1, 2016 06:43
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in a way it seems like accessibility is just a selling point now, like exploding kittens is a poo poo game with poo poo systems and poo poo mechanics but because its incredibly accessible people think its better than the stuff they think most board games are because its more accessible and they are playing games with friends and not realizing friends is fun not game... hmmm
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Feb 1, 2016 06:46
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EccoRaven posted:*snort* well technically... Well yeah, orcs are elves too. Just like in Tolkien's work.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:47
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Feb 1, 2016 06:48
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And the Breton's are half elves.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:49
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Butt stuff is super awesome though
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Feb 1, 2016 06:50
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PBS Newshour posted:Like i didn't accept his request I think I accidentally sent him one somehow by misclicking oh god I accept all requests, for I am Christ like.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:52
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EccoRaven posted:I accept all requests, for I am Christ like. wow ecco literally thinks he's god big surprise there
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Feb 1, 2016 06:54
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PBS Newshour posted:in a way it seems like accessibility is just a selling point now, like exploding kittens is a poo poo game with poo poo systems and poo poo mechanics but because its incredibly accessible people think its better than the stuff they think most board games are because its more accessible and they are playing games with friends and not realizing friends is fun not game... hmmm This is what all your arguments boil down to. "You're having fun wrong!" 
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Feb 1, 2016 07:04
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Feb 1, 2016 07:10
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Asiina posted:This is what all your arguments boil down to. No it isn't. Having a fun experience with a lovely board game doesn't stop it from making a lovely board game, but I am not saying that experience is completely invalid, jesus christ
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Feb 1, 2016 07:17
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A couple of opinions on the last bunch of posts: Daggerfall is the only true Elder Scrolls game. I remember having some bad rear end Khajiit character and got sad when I turned into I believe it was the wereboar. It's been a while, but I don't think I ever found the cure and ended up quitting the game. PBS Newshour posted:the only good loving game is elevator action This is true.
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