jrodefeld posted:I'd also like to have this particular question answered since it has been pretty much ignored even though I have brought it up multiple times before. Or do you get to be exempted from such things because you're the libertarian ubermensch, bringing the light of
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jrodefeld posted:I'd also like to have this particular question answered since it has been pretty much ignored even though I have brought it up multiple times before. gently caress you cocksucker you don't fuckin get to say that
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Literally The Worst posted:fight me jrod, fight me. my body is willing, my arms are spread wide, embrace me with your tender caress and let us wrestle together, naked, oiled up You fool! Are you forgetting how attractive Jrod is? Only the fairest of us can truly battle him fairly. We must recruit a champion! Now announcing: Something Awful 2016 Fashion Show! Winner gets the greatest prize of all: the chance to go one-on-one with Jrodefeld, and maybe, just maybe, scratch his face enough to become the true victor.
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jrodefeld posted:Now a shorter post. Have you ever seen a commercial for a prescription medication? You know, the one that's like 3 minutes long and it spends like 2 of those minutes running through all the possible side effects, half of which could kill you if you have certain medical conditions? You can thank the FDA for that.
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jrodefeld posted:Back to the topic. I'll take the time to peruse the last several pages for important posts that I should respond to, No you loving won't. Why even pretend like you give a poo poo about having a conversation at this point any more? Just drop your loving sermon-turds and go back to hocking your stolen movies to idiots.
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jrodefeld posted:Given that we have been discussing healthcare reform, I have a simple question I’d like to pose: No. jrodefeld posted:10. Murray Rothbard You identify with fascists, supporters of slavery and Apartheid. You are a collaborator at best, a closeted fascist at worst. You are abhorrent. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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The fact that old Triple H is down at number 21 is just about the only evidence I've seen so far that jrod is actually reading anyone's posts, honestly. A year or two ago he'd be way higher.
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Also, stop loving trying to appeal to us as being a "true leftist". We aren't going to suddenly accept you for being on "our team". We don't reject you for that, we reject you because you personally are an awful human being incapable of empathy or critical thought.
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jrodefeld posted:I'd also like to have this particular question answered since it has been pretty much ignored even though I have brought it up multiple times before. Holy poo poo you are as dense as osmium.
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Karia posted:You fool! Are you forgetting how attractive Jrod is? Only the fairest of us can truly battle him fairly. We must recruit a champion! im pretty as all hell son
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Who What Now posted:Also, stop loving trying to appeal to us as being a "true leftist". We aren't going to suddenly accept you for being on "our team". We don't reject you for that, we reject you because you personally are an awful human being incapable of empathy or critical thought. Hey man a true leftists that cares about TRUE NATURAL FREEDOM would support policy that would lead directly to right wing fascism because *colossal, window shattering fart that can be heart for miles*
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Literally The Worst posted:im pretty as all hell son it'll be the best episode of Hot Tub Brawls ever.
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Not only should we expand the FDA's funding, but we should empower its agents to execute food and drug company executives at their own discretion for any reason or no reason at all like Judge Dredd
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It'll be super badass.
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Karia posted:You fool! Are you forgetting how attractive Jrod is? Only the fairest of us can truly battle him fairly. We must recruit a champion! Fashion fighting you say? It's just like one of my Japanese animes... JoRo's Bizarre Ideology
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jrodefeld posted:Now a shorter post.
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paragon1 posted:Not only should we expand the FDA's funding, but we should empower its agents to execute food and drug company executives at their own discretion for any reason or no reason at all If this were real that Martin Shkreli guy would be so dead.
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theshim posted:t h a l i d o m i d e Hey Jrode, what do you think of praexology? Do you enjoy the warm, safe embrace of an ideology that has declared itself immune to disproof?
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Literally The Worst posted:im pretty as all hell son Excuse me, you haven't compared yourself to a celebrity so we can judge for ourselves. We have a right to select the one who will represent us in honorable single combat.
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You know what else is a violation of the categorical imperative? Surgery. If I hack people up in alleyways or bring them back to my garage to carve to pieces that's assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder or maybe murder in the first degree But someone with some fancy expensive paper from some high-falutin college like "Harvard Medical School" sticks knives in people and everyone falls all over themselves loving him. Why are some people given super-special powers to do things that are a crime when the salt of the earth man on the street does the same? E: Hm this might not be an effective argument on someone who thinks universal health care means letting anyone sell antifreeze-based cough syrup or open Billie-Rae's Discount Kardio Cuttery out back in the woodshed. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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jrodefeld posted:Now a shorter post. Changing the FDA to a recommendation agency would basically have taken the thalidomide disaster and amplified it by an order of magnitude. No thank you. The wicked already enrich themselves at the expense of the gullible and the desperate, and your proposal is designed to let them do that even better. Literally everything about your idea is bad from any perspective except from that of a drug manufacturer's. If anything, I think that the FDA should be expanded to cover dietary supplements as well.
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jrodefeld posted:... Kant, eh? I'm familiar with Kant. I had to read a bit to remind myself of some things, and discovered some new things which I may or may not pursue. I have a question for you before I get any further in this and start digging into details. It's important. Like, really, really important. Do you actually subscribe to Kant's view of morality? Also Kant disagrees with some of what you've said, but if you're just doing this Kant thing as a new approach and you're not solidly on board, I'm not sure I feel like really refuting it. Buried alive fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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How does a DRO collect compensation from offenders for its clients if (unlike Lincoln's tyrannical US Government) DRO's are honor-bound to respect the Categorical Imperative and never take property without the owner's consent?
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Jrod.... holy poo poo did you just take intro to PHI level Kant and apply it randomly to your situation... also what about my previous post showing you are *clearly* not an anarchist. Go read it please tia
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VitalSigns posted:How does a DRO collect compensation from offenders for its clients if (unlike Lincoln's tyrannical US Government) DRO's are honor-bound to respect the Categorical Imperative and never take property without the owner's consent? You give your consent implicitly when a lawfully (whose law? who cares!) empowered agent of that DRO rips your brain out of your skull. It's the rules.
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kant definitely wouldn't have sat on our side of the National Assembly so i don't see what he has to do with any of this
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BaurusJA posted:Jrod.... holy poo poo did you just take intro to PHI level Kant and apply it randomly to your situation... also what about my previous post showing you are *clearly* not an anarchist. Go read it please tia What about jrod's posting makes you think he's read past the intro to anything. He didn't even know that Von Mises' Human Action was explicitly a utilitarian argument for the free market (and that Mises emphatically rejected all deontological ethics as arbitrary and worthless) until I told him, and he Oddly, I don't think he's brought up Human Action a single time since I quoted those passages at him a year ago, hunh.
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VitalSigns posted:How does a DRO collect compensation from offenders for its clients if (unlike Lincoln's tyrannical US Government) DRO's are honor-bound to respect the Categorical Imperative and never take property without the owner's consent?
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jrodefeld posted:Back to the topic. I'll take the time to peruse the last several pages for important posts that I should respond to, but first I'd like to get a few things off my chest as to better explain my ideological identity. No, gently caress you, answer my last post: GunnerJ posted:
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You know, thinking about it, Kant's support for enlightened absolute monarchy fits right into jrod's worldview. eta: But on the other hand, Triple-H probably does not support the "Criticize, but obey" principle of civil rights and free expression.
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Hey hey, rodefeld j, how many questions did you ignore today
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GunnerJ posted:No, gently caress you, answer my last post While he's at it he can answer mine too. Me posted:...You are not a leftist Jrod. Don't be roping leftist anarchists into this poo poo. the [anarchist] tradition, though vague and evolving as a definition, very clearly delineates its worldview from libertarianism. BaurusJA fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Feb 2, 2016 |
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jrodefeld posted:In the interest of productive reform of an obviously broken US healthcare system, would you support changing the mandate of the FDA from either permitting or banning certain treatments, drugs and procedures onto the market to merely recommending or not recommending said medical products but not having the power to prevent their free sale to those who desire them? Seriously? jrod, you can do better than this.
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In the interest of productive reform of a broken system, here is a proposal that neither produces nor fixes anything:
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It's so very telling that of all the issues with the US healthcare system, he's mainly concerned with giving pharmaceutical companies the right to profit from selling fake medicine as easily as supplement companies canquote:New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman sent cease-and-desist letters, dated Monday, to the four retailers demanding they pull the supplements from their shelves and provide additional information about the products tested. Nearly 80 percent of the state’s test results found that the store-brand supplements tested did not contain what is listed on the label, according to a press release from Schneiderman's office. You see liberals, that cancer medicine will cost so much less if it's just relabeled sugar water and sand-pills
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Jrod, the better question is why would should we surrender to you? I'm not afraid of you Jrod. You can't force me to accept Libertarianism, and Statism rules supreme. We have no need to meet you in the middle on anything. It is you who has to sacrifice what you want to work with us. We don't need your approval to have the FDA do its job, it works pretty well as is, and the only area for improvement involves giving the FDA more funds and more authority. If you want to find common ground, you need to moderate your views so that they are closer to what we want. We are getting along just fine without you, and if anything the future of America looks like more big government and big welfare.
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Jrod, if you lived in an ideal libertarian utopia, how would you build your vast fortune/harem? What great idea of yours are you unable to bring to life because of the state and why? I'm assuming you've got something better in mind than bootleg movies from Hong Kong.
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1000101 posted:No. Okay, so you support the entire War on Drugs, right? Consumers need to be protected from themselves, don't they? Frankly, and I don't say this lightly, you are a barbarian and a savage. What you are suggesting is that if two or more individuals come to a mutually agreeable transaction on the market that you disapprove of, you think it is justified to kidnap one or more of them and throw them in a cage. You must support prohibition of alcohol also, right? All kinds of people develop alcoholism and drink way too much. Don't we need to protect people from themselves? It is a gross fallacy to think that in the complex world of medicine and health care that any group of individuals, even if motivated by pure intentions, is capable of accurately determining which drug or treatment is efficacious and which is not is absurd on the face of it. Such an institution would doubtless be subject to external pressure by established interests whose profits would be threatened by newcomers into the market. Corruption would abound. What a civilized person would do, if they were truly concerned, would be to advise people of which products and services were worthwhile and which were not but never to forcefully prevent a voluntary transaction from taking place. The very fact that you cannot understand how barbaric such coercive aggressive acts are displays volumes about your character.
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Goooo gently caress yourself jrod
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Corruption abounds already in anarcho-capitalism.. so Jrod since you are ignoring my answers now as well. Lemm just ask, how is Libertopia not literally just Mogadishu in the late 99s early 00s?
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