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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Tezzor is not pretending to be stupid and, even if he were, his hidden motivations are irrelevant. Insincerity is an excuse. See this is actually a personal attack. Telling SMG that it is pompous gibberish and the reason I have him on ignore is not.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah, that's pretty much what's been happening. You have yet to say a single thing in this thread that isn't random lashing out at people. C'mon now, you're forgetting his huge effortpost about the rule of thirds that he had discovered 20 minutes before writing it. Also, his triumphant return with some video that was supposed to surefire convince us Star Wars is actually bad?
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euphronius posted:Desert (two different kinds), forest (like three),ice, lava, water.  Also city planet.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Jakku is a less interesting Tattooine, and there are a hundred ways you could have kept it'S narrative importance without making it a less interesting re-thread of Tattooine. Or, a desert that isn't sandy. That'd be a more interesting way to maintain visual continuity than just having the UAE stand in for Tunisia.
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That and city planet. They could do... Suburb planet? Planet that exists inside an interstellar life form?
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euphronius posted:Desert (two different kinds), forest (like three),ice, lava, water. City planet, temperate planet (naboo, alderaan), gas giant.
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SHISHKABOB posted:Isn't Jakku essentially a trash can? It would have been more interesting to have it be a huge junkyard, mountains of teetering scrap and wrecked spaceships. Desert was safer, because Tatooine and *~practical effects~*
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Serf posted:C'mon now, you're forgetting his huge effortpost about the rule of thirds that he had discovered 20 minutes before writing it. Also, his triumphant return with some video that was supposed to surefire convince us Star Wars is actually bad? Oh yeah, I'd actually forgotten that. So I take it back Tezzor, you showed effort in two entire posts. Effectronica posted:Or, a desert that isn't sandy. That'd be a more interesting way to maintain visual continuity than just having the UAE stand in for Tunisia. 
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Tezzor posted:See this is actually a personal attack. Telling SMG that it is pompous gibberish and the reason I have him on ignore is not. I'm really proud of how I keep earplugs in my ears and a blindfold over my eyes, because that keeps me away from having to view "pompous gibberish."
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Serf posted:C'mon now, you're forgetting his huge effortpost about the rule of thirds that he had discovered 20 minutes before writing it. Also, his triumphant return with some video that was supposed to surefire convince us Star Wars is actually bad? Oh my god I had forgotten his rule of thirds post.
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Feb 3, 2016 01:09
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euphronius posted:Oh my god I had forgotten his rule of thirds post. That feels like a month ago already. Its been like two days.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Oh yeah, I'd actually forgotten that. So I take it back Tezzor, you showed effort in two entire posts. Please make another lengthy post in the Star Wars thread about anime.
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Feb 3, 2016 01:10
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Euphonious you're like Tarkin.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Euphonious you're like Tarkin. Handsome and authoritative?
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Yaws posted:Please make another lengthy post in the Star Wars thread about anime. So now discussing influences on Star Wars and things that Star Wars influenced, and things that are thematically related to Star Wars, is out of bounds, because of your prejudices. I'm starting to get the feeling that your idea of a good discussion is saying "that was good" or "that was bad" or "that was really good".
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Basebf555 posted:That feels like a month ago already. Its been like two days. This thread is like that one planet in Interstellar where time is distorted by proximity to the black hole.
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Yaws posted:Please make another lengthy post in the Star Wars thread about anime. Ok, there's plenty to talk about because of how huge Star Wars is in popular culture. Anything in particular you want me to cover? (I know you're making fun of me)
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Feb 3, 2016 01:13
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Serf posted:C'mon now, you're forgetting his huge effortpost about the rule of thirds that he had discovered 20 minutes before writing it. Also, his triumphant return with some video that was supposed to surefire convince us Star Wars is actually bad? Yeah, I mean, that was pretty silly, making arguments by reference to evidence and fundamental principles of storytelling and cinematography. It would have been a lot easier to merely post my unsubstantiated headcanon about how Jar Jar is a secret metaphor for the fall of the Berlin wall, as this is at the reading level and does not require me to know a thing
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MonsieurChoc posted:Ok, there's plenty to talk about because of how huge Star Wars is in popular culture. Anything in particular you want me to cover? Your original post was interesting and informative. We could use more of that.
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Anime is fine. I think tho you'll admit sometimes goons overdo it.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Ok, there's plenty to talk about because of how huge Star Wars is in popular culture. Anything in particular you want me to cover? Compare and contrast the empire in LoGH with the empire in Star Wars
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Cnut the Great posted:I guess I find it a bit hard to understand her character. It's supposedly a defining aspect of her character that she prefers to be alone, but I thought the defining aspect of her character was her desire to be reunited with her family. She fears identifying with anyone else as family, besides her "real" family (the ones who blasted off into space and left her with Unkar Plott). Kylo Ren reads straight from her mind "you feel [Han Solo] is the father you never had". But even though Rey feels this way, she actually rejects the scenario that brings her closer to Han, working with him on the MF, because that would be traitorous to her "real" family.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Ok, there's plenty to talk about because of how huge Star Wars is in popular culture. Anything in particular you want me to cover? This thread has devolved into mud-slinging, name calling and Cnut talking about crying while he masturbates. We need to get this thread back on track.
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Lol at you invoking the rule of thirds to demonstrate failures in cinematography! You're so embarrassingly wrong for reasons I do not elucidate! Lol! Shame! I am probably fooling somebody!
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Yaws posted:Please make another lengthy post in the Star Wars thread about anime. The French comics one was very interesting! Contributing something for discussion is also interesting (including Tezzor's three-ish effortposts). To contribute: I am comfortable believing that Jakku is a desert because of Tatooine (the saga naturally begins in a desert) and because of Takodana and Starkiller (lush, and a different wasteland, respectively). I think they could have made it more distinct (much as you could tell Geonosis from Tatooine), but TFA is not interested in novel locations the way that Lucas was, at least not in the overstuffed pilot. I am sure we'll see some new places in other movies.
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One gigantic influence on Star Wars:  Darth Vader is, in many ways, a blend of Jack Kirby's supervillain creations Darkseid and Doctor Doom. From Doom we have the hooded, cloaked figure in a mask. From Darkseid we have the villain as the father of the protagonists, a physically imposing figure who regularly kills his subordinates. Doom is a representation of Death, a figure with a skeletal outer face that conceals a distorted and warped inner face. Representing the darker urges of the Fantastic Four, their ultimate opposite. Darkseid is a representation of tyranny, the ultimate dictator, who is (in the original New Gods and Mister Miracle run) defeated by the fact that he, too, is human enough to love his children, even though they represent his opposite, and by the inability of his ideology to sustain itself outside of his controlled environment of Apokolips. Although physically imposing, this belies weakness. From these characters, we get the basics of Vader, the Emperor, and the Empire.
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Star Wars also takes a ton from Dune.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Star Wars also takes a ton from Dune. I like the giant worm monster in ESB, and the sarlaac in ROTJ is basically a worm just chillin'.
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homullus posted:It would have been more interesting to have it be a huge junkyard, mountains of teetering scrap and wrecked spaceships. Desert was safer, because Tatooine and *~practical effects~* Having the protagonists flee a world of trash would have been even more on the nose than "this will begin to make things right".
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rear end Catchcum posted:Star Wars also takes a ton from Dune. I'm completely unfamiliar with that mythos and would be interested to hear more.
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:I'm completely unfamiliar with that mythos and would be interested to hear more.   http://i.imgur.com/pelq5BB.webm read the book
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There's stuff like space magic, evil empire, savior who is trained in space magic. Starts with "a new hope" (they move to arrakis), middle is their enemies "strike back", end is the "return of the" space magic guy to defeat the empire.
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:I'm completely unfamiliar with that mythos and would be interested to hear more. Aside from Turtlecrunch's cool post there, the biggest thing that jumps out to me is the whole concept of this special warrior order who use melee weapons and who can access some sort of special power what paul can do with the weirding way is essentially the force it's a hella cool and fun book
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:I'm completely unfamiliar with that mythos and would be interested to hear more. The first dune novel is a classic and you can read it in a night.
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Also listen to this podcast series after you read dune. http://mythgard.org/academy/dune/
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:I'm completely unfamiliar with that mythos and would be interested to hear more. I'm only 200 pages into the book but it's compelling and super interesting world. Check it out. Desert planet, supernatural powers, awesome tech...just a cool read. 1965, too.
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euphronius posted:The first dune novel is a classic and you can read it in a night. Just quoting this to make sure you read it Terrorist Fistbump. Fuckin essay on my desk on Monday. Dune is great.
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RBA Starblade posted:Having the protagonists flee a world of trash would have been even more on the nose than "this will begin to make things right". Nice. And then still having two "good" characters let go of their old Star Wars memorabilia to embrace the new ...
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rear end Catchcum posted:I'm only 200 pages into the book but it's compelling and super interesting world. Check it out. Desert planet, supernatural powers, awesome tech...just a cool read. 1965, too. Not only Desert Planet but Alderaan too!
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DARPA posted:Doesn't understand a young woman going to have a cry by herself in the woods, yet fully understands a young man slaughtering children. It's like MRA poetry. I understand both. I just think one isn't as dramatically powerful as the other because of the comparatively weak way it evokes a character's inner emotional life. I think, perhaps, it is you who does not...understand....things....and is an MRA person. Rather than I.
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