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Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



Toilet Rascal

kastein posted:

You can do it by hand, and I've done so 6 or 7 times, but leave it to a shop unless you are dead broke or stuck in the woods with a blown tire and a spare that isn't on a wheel... because you can't balance them afterwards anyways, so you're going to either be using balancing beads or bringing them into the same shop for balancing.

Breaking the beads sucks, seating the beads sucks, and wrestling the tire on/off the wheel with tire spoons sucks too.

IOwnCalculus posted:

Kastein hit it on the head, that is one job that is almost universally better off left to the people who do it all day every day.

Ok, thanks! I hated messing with the tires on my motorcycle anyways, though that was largely because I kept pinching the tubes. I was thinking that maybe investing in being able to do car tires myself might pay off in the long run, but I wasn't sure just how much of a pain it'd be, and if something like the HF manual setups would be more effective at eliciting swearing than anything else. Thanks for the advice!

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Mcqueen
Feb 26, 2007

'HEY MOM, I'M DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!'


Soiled Meat
Thanks guys.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


How about some nice tool torture porn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSrERT1qv1Q

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Are the Zenni optical glasses actually safety glasses? I cant' find anywhere on that page where it says that or even implies that they are strong.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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thebigcow posted:

Are the Zenni optical glasses actually safety glasses? I cant' find anywhere on that page where it says that or even implies that they are strong.

They have some safety-specific models;

http://www.zennioptical.com/702023-prescription-goggles.html

http://www.zennioptical.com/701712-prescription-wind-goggles.html

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Wera screwdriver chat.

I was intrigued by the latertips IOC linked earlier. All I could find in sets were mixes without a lot of Philips. I found a set of Insulated / Lasertip PH0,1,2,3,4 and a mid-sized flat on eBay for $20. The down side is that the PH1 and 2, the ones most used, were ragged out and the lasertip was completely worn down.

Wera has a lifetime warranty. I contacted them and they said to send them in.

$6 in shipping later and I have a new PH1, PH2 and flatty on their way to me.

$26 in total for a set of lastertip Weras? I'm happy. They really are as nice as you guys claimed.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
How did you contact them? I've got a set of Chisel drivers that are just beat to snot. Would love to RMA them.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

the spyder posted:

How did you contact them? I've got a set of Chisel drivers that are just beat to snot. Would love to RMA them.

http://www-us.wera.de/contact_us.html

They have an online forum submission, but I didn't hear back from them in a couple days. I emailed them at info@weratools.com and heard back almost immediately. They had replacements shipped out within 2 business days of receiving my old parts.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all

Safety Dance posted:

These are the glasses I use. I wound up paying $60. http://www.rx-safety.com/

Any input on the shipping times? I'm going someplace hot and dusty soon, and I remember optical4less taking like 3 weeks at the quickest, and I'd like to have them in hand sooner rather than later.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Dannywilson posted:

Any input on the shipping times? I'm going someplace hot and dusty soon, and I remember optical4less taking like 3 weeks at the quickest, and I'd like to have them in hand sooner rather than later.

It was a while back so I don't remember exactly, but I ordered mine on July 2nd, 2014 and I had them in hand well before July 12th.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

meatpimp posted:

Wera screwdriver chat.

I was intrigued by the latertips IOC linked earlier. All I could find in sets were mixes without a lot of Philips. I found a set of Insulated / Lasertip PH0,1,2,3,4 and a mid-sized flat on eBay for $20. The down side is that the PH1 and 2, the ones most used, were ragged out and the lasertip was completely worn down.

Wera has a lifetime warranty. I contacted them and they said to send them in.

$6 in shipping later and I have a new PH1, PH2 and flatty on their way to me.

$26 in total for a set of lastertip Weras? I'm happy. They really are as nice as you guys claimed.

Replacements showed up today, right at one week after I shipped them out. Three brand new lastertip screwdrivers, the PH1 and PH2 that I said, and a 1x5.5 flat that I had thrown in just to see if they'd replace it (it was seriously beaten up cosmetically, but still functional). They replaced everything without a second question.

I just used them on an electronic deadbolt installation and the lasertip does give you a very noticeable grip. Thanks again for the Wera suggestion, these things are badass!


Edit: Now that I have a taste for high-end hand tools, what are good high-end brands for small work with electronics -- case disassembly / small screws / etc.?

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 29, 2016

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

meatpimp posted:

Edit: Now that I have a taste for high-end hand tools, what are good high-end brands for small work with electronics -- case disassembly / small screws / etc.?

I like Xcelite, but they're not as high end as Wera. Wera does make small stuff too, you know. Wiha is a good middle ground between Wera and Xcelite, I think.

I've heard Witte makes good stuff, but I haven't personally used one.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
How are ifixit's kits? I see those recommend fairly often.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Uthor posted:

How are ifixit's kits? I see those recommend fairly often.

I like mine, but the quality (much like any multi-tip single-driver kit) isn't near as nice as a kit of discrete drivers like Wera et al.

Blitter
Mar 16, 2011

Raluek posted:

I like mine, but the quality (much like any multi-tip single-driver kit) isn't near as nice as a kit of discrete drivers like Wera et al.

Yeah, I like the ifixit kit for the rarely used tri screws and other oddball stuff, and picked up a set of moody Phillips drivers, since I seem to use that the most:


They aren't wera quality stuff but are decent, and not too pricey.

peepsalot
Apr 24, 2007

PEEP THIS...
BITCH!

Raluek posted:

I like Xcelite, but they're not as high end as Wera. Wera does make small stuff too, you know. Wiha is a good middle ground between Wera and Xcelite, I think.

I've heard Witte makes good stuff, but I haven't personally used one.

Yeah I like Wiha
I have this kit, its good http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26190-Phillips-Screwdriver-Professional/dp/B00018AO0W
really good deal with those pliers too

I also have a very old xcelite kit somewhere, which the wiha replaced.
They look slightly different from this but its basically this set
http://www.amazon.com/Xcelite-XP600-Precision-Phillips-Screwdriver/dp/B000B63BWC

Surpisingly more expensive than wiha, and without pliers

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



Toilet Rascal

Blitter posted:

Yeah, I like the ifixit kit for the rarely used tri screws and other oddball stuff, and picked up a set of moody Phillips drivers, since I seem to use that the most:


They aren't wera quality stuff but are decent, and not too pricey.
I've got that same thing at work, the extractor kit for smaller screws. I really like the way they grab the outside edges, and I wish they made a larger size kit for p1/p2 screws, but they definitely aren't Wera quality, not by a long shot. Clever design, but it's a good example of how being made in USA doesn't always mean high end.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib
I like Wera for precision drivers.
Wiha makes some nice stuff as well.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Speaking of Wiha they have some stuff on sale: http://www.wihatools.com/on-sale Scroll past all the punches and you'll see some good stuff like insulated precision drivers, etc. I really want this awesome insulated multi precision screwdriver, but drat $70 is still a lot to drop on it: http://www.wihatools.com/on-sale/insulated-pop-up-slimline-slotted-phillips-blades-7-piece-set

I have to imagine that insulated hack saw is the kind of tool you pray you never need and then thank god you have it when there's a situation that requires it.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

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Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib
KC Tool often has Wera or Wiha on sale for their tool of the day. If you want to pick up a set, check the garage journal hot deals forum.


:edit:
Haha, speak of the Devil, it's today's tool of the day: http://www.kctoolco.com/dealoftheday.asp

sharkytm fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jan 30, 2016

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Blitter posted:

Yeah, I like the ifixit kit for the rarely used tri screws and other oddball stuff, and picked up a set of moody Phillips drivers, since I seem to use that the most:


They aren't wera quality stuff but are decent, and not too pricey.
Those say they're JIS, though. I do keep meaning to pick up a set of JIS drivers.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

sharkytm posted:

KC Tool often has Wera or Wiha on sale for their tool of the day. If you want to pick up a set, check the garage journal hot deals forum.


:edit:
Haha, speak of the Devil, it's today's tool of the day: http://www.kctoolco.com/dealoftheday.asp

I've gotten a few things from them since they're often the best price on and I can pick stuff up from their store front while on breaks at work.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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sharkytm posted:

KC Tool often has Wera or Wiha on sale for their tool of the day. If you want to pick up a set, check the garage journal hot deals forum.


:edit:
Haha, speak of the Devil, it's today's tool of the day: http://www.kctoolco.com/dealoftheday.asp

Well that was perfect timing... Ordered.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

El Jebus posted:

Well that was perfect timing... Ordered.

Yep, I got one to. Thanks again sharkytm!

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Is the wera kit significantly better than the wiha kit? (It looks like they have a similar kit.)

Basically, if you take price out of the equation, should I still just buy this wiha?

And why are their drat names so similar?

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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Krakkles posted:

Basically, if you take price out of the equation, should I still just buy this wiha?

If you have the $ to drop, I'd buy the Wera, personally. But I have never used anything wiha, so I'm biased.

No clue on the names. Dang Germans.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

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Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib
I much prefer the Wera Kraftform handles, but that Wiha set is really nice. KC is saying 2 weeks for delivery because they've sold so many, just FYI.

I haven't seen a comparable Wera set go on sale in a long time, and they don't really have a comparable set, with the ESD handle and pentalobe bits. Most of their larger bit sets have sockets and a bunch of square/Robertson drive, which I don't need. I may pick up a Wera ESD handle to use with these of I decide I don't like the Wiha.

stinch
Nov 21, 2013
I think i'd say Wiha tend towards traditional designs with no surprises while Wera are more adventurous but don't always get it right. At this sort of price range it's really just preference, you shouldn't have quality problems with either.

Personally I prefer Wera for regular drivers and Wiha for precision drivers. I just don't get on with the bulge in the Were precision drivers.

TheCobraEffect
Jan 10, 2003
Snipes's bitch.
Does anyone have any experience with DIY alignment tools? Specifically I was looking at http://www.quicktrickalignment.com/

They look pretty solid, it only sucks a bit if you have under 18 inch and over 18 inch wheels to work on (different kits). I'm tired of having to take my cars somewhere to get them aligned. I thought I had a reputable place but they told me the rear camber on my girlfriends Acura MDX was way out, but not to worry because they got it back in spec. Not sure how, the camber isn't adjustable...

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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I don't think any of us will recommend doing your own alignments, you just won't get the required accuracy

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

TheCobraEffect posted:

Does anyone have any experience with DIY alignment tools? Specifically I was looking at http://www.quicktrickalignment.com/

They look pretty solid, it only sucks a bit if you have under 18 inch and over 18 inch wheels to work on (different kits). I'm tired of having to take my cars somewhere to get them aligned. I thought I had a reputable place but they told me the rear camber on my girlfriends Acura MDX was way out, but not to worry because they got it back in spec. Not sure how, the camber isn't adjustable...

You would have to buy after market adjustable control arms if you were so inclined for that application I believe (please correct me if im wrong somebody) Lots of shops wont gently caress with rear adjustments if they look frozen especially in rubber bushings where you cant heat them up. So your either stuck with tire where or control arms. Sometimes getting new quickstruts put in will fix your camber as well.

Quick toe and go is something most people can do at home with a laser level that can read degrees, it woulnt be perfect but enough to get you by.

Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Feb 5, 2016

User Error
Aug 31, 2006
You can sometimes get a little adjustment by stacking tolerances. A lot of suspension component bolt holes have a little bit of slop you use to your advantage.

I use strings to do toe on the race car and a magnetic camber gauge. It works but is tedious and requires a really good flat surface.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
I'm sitting at my desk with a mix of wiring harnesses to attach to each other. I have a ratcheting crimper and box of butt splices that were probably linked in this thread at some point because I don't know how else they ended up in my Amazon wishlist.

There a few spots where I have to join more than two wires and they're all the same size, what is the least poo poo a decent way of doing this? I thought of putting ring terminals on and getting a small bolt and nut but I don't know how to seal that. Right now I'm looking at either poorly soldering and wrapping it up with electrical tape, or the ol' twist 'n tape.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I typically split the wires into two groups and switch wires from group to group till they are roughly the same overall cross sectional conductor area. Then choose the smallest butt splice which each bundle of stripped conductors will reasonably fit into and crimp it on the next die size down (blue crimper slot for a yellow, red for a blue, red for a red and then cross my fingers because gently caress red crimps) even though the instructions say not to.

If you have for instance 4 #18s, I put two on each end and if it'll fit, jam them into an 18 sized butt splice anyways. Just make sure all the strands make it into the ferrule. 5 #20s? Double one over, put it with one other wire so you effectively have 3 #20s there, then put the other 3 #20s on the other end, choose the smallest splice they'll fit into, etc. This may break the rules, but it's a lot harder to overfill a splice enough to cause problems than it is to underfill one enough that the drat wire falls out after crimping.

Then tug test it and shrink the tubing/melt the sealant. If you have to do this, make the wires going to the farther-away end of the butt splice 2-3 inches longer than you would otherwise and stagger them length wise so that the spots where they fold over and head the other direction don't end up all in the same area, causing an ugly bulge in the harness.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Sounds good.

Christobevii3
Jul 3, 2006
Got one of the gearwrench gimbal wratchets with some ratcheting box ends today. Pretty much the greatest thing ever. Highly recommend for the price.

http://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81270-Drive-Gimbal-Ratchet/dp/B00HDSSJKU/ref=pd_bxgy_469_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=05PY9R8FCE2CGWNK3Z1V

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Farewell Knipex Pliers-wrench. You were too good for this world.

I lost it this morning explaining to the TSA the massive rush I was in packing for this deployment and forgetting to check them.

They were lost because they were over 7 inches, by .25 inch.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Wasabi the J posted:

Farewell Knipex Pliers-wrench. You were too good for this world.

I lost it this morning explaining to the TSA the massive rush I was in packing for this deployment and forgetting to check them.

They were lost because they were over 7 inches, by .25 inch.
But you might have been a terrorist plumber!

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

InitialDave posted:

But you might have been a terrorist plumber!

With military orders too. To be fair, I know he was "just doing his job," and you could do some pretty good damage with a wrench, but goddamn, he really was just being pedantic about the size.

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Wasabi the J posted:

With military orders too. To be fair, I know he was "just doing his job," and you could do some pretty good damage with a wrench, but goddamn, he really was just being pedantic about the size.
*shrug* It's security theatre that doesn't really do a drat thing, save for better informing those of ill intent how to best avoid being caught.

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