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DariusLikewise posted:The worst part of socials for me is that everyone claims how super special and cool theirs will be then it ends up being the same thing as every other social. Overpriced drinks, people's parents dancing to a DJ who from the 80s, a silent auction including lottery tree and several baskets filled with things you would never want outside a social setting and cold cuts just before midnight. That's a mix of some old and some new traditions. The cold cuts thing comes from some antique liquor regulation in which an establishment had to also provide food. The prizes have spiraled out of control from what they were back in the day. Socials used to have one prize, a single 40 oz. bottle of some cheap liquor and you'd buy an arm's length of tickets for a chance to win. Now there is arms race for bigger and better social prizes with much more complicated pricing structures. And with recently relaxed liquor and lotto regulations, 50/50 draws are becoming a thing. A way-back when, the socials were a handy way to get a whole bunch of people in a room, get them dancing and get them drunk on the cheap. That's because there wasn't mandatory minimum prices on alcohol until 2001 or so, and from what I remember a drink at a social was about half that at a bar. This made them wildly popular, and they remain so in rural areas not because bars out there are expensive, but rather that small farming/mining towns lack in entertainment options. I know a fair number of people in Winnipeg that pretty much won't go to a wedding social anymore, because they are being held by people who don't need to do any fundraising for their wedding. When people were getting married younger, it made a bit more sense for the community to pitch in to help a young couple out. It was basically just shuffling around small sums of money anyway since you'd have a social and get cash from your seven friends, only to give it back to them when they had their own socials; loose microlending, with a whole lot of Mony Mony.
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Baronjutter posted:Have a wedding you can afford, if you can't afford a huge wedding, don't have a huge wedding. If you need people to pay to come to your wedding, invite fewer people. I'm not paying to go to your wedding, sorry. I mean it's not like it isn't possible to have a good, fun wedding on a budget. Example: My sister's best friend got married a couple years ago, and two grad students can't afford poo poo. So the food at the wedding was a potluck, and you were asked to bring the recipe for the dish you brought (which they compiled into a mini-cook book and gave a copy to all the guests as a gift). The tables were all from who knows where and the plates/silverware were collected from garage sales over a year. No two sets matched but nobody gave a poo poo. No DJ because why pay someone else to hit shuffle on an iPod playlist when you can do it yourself. Some relative of one of them had a farm in the country outside of Ottawa so they just had it on his land and avoided needing to rent a hall. The only real money they spent was on booze. No stupid Stag and Doe required and they managed to do it within their limited budget.
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Antifreeze Head posted:That's a mix of some old and some new traditions. The cold cuts thing comes from some antique liquor regulation in which an establishment had to also provide food. The prizes have spiraled out of control from what they were back in the day. Socials used to have one prize, a single 40 oz. bottle of some cheap liquor and you'd buy an arm's length of tickets for a chance to win. Now there is arms race for bigger and better social prizes with much more complicated pricing structures. And with recently relaxed liquor and lotto regulations, 50/50 draws are becoming a thing. So it went from being something pretty cool to being something horribly cliche. I know when people in my age group (20-30 years old) they usually plan the social first then base the wedding planning off whatever they make. No one gives a second thought to cost until they have the money from the social. I also missed how awkward it is to have a group of parents singing "Hey motherfucker get laid get hosed!"
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I've never heard of blue mountain
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http://i.imgur.com/p6s0vIz.png Hahahaha
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Furnaceface posted:I guess Blue Decent Sized Hill doesnt exactly match up well with the idea of good skiing though. Also lets not speak of the pricing for chalets and houses around said "mountain".
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I don't normally like bitching about derails but wedding chat is insanely boring. Without affordable housing, Vancouver risks becoming an economic ghost town I think he meant MORE OF an economic ghost town.
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Feb 3, 2016 22:42
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Vancouver is great if you fall into the class of entrenched wealth, software developer, or are ok renting a concrete tenement and serving coffee to one of the aforementioned.
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Feb 3, 2016 22:44
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I've never hated supply siders more in my life
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ZShakespeare posted:Vancouver is great if you fall into the class of entrenched wealth, software developer, or are ok renting a concrete tenement and serving coffee to one of the aforementioned. I don't see how it's good for software developers either. Salaries there seem like complete poo poo for most people.
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ZShakespeare posted:Vancouver is great if you fall into the class of entrenched wealth, software developer, or are ok renting a concrete tenement and serving coffee to one of the aforementioned. A senior software dev at hootsuite might make 90k.
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which, as it turns out, is enough to be what remains of the "middle class". The meat in the wealth, barrista sandwhich. e: assuming you don't want to do something stupid like raise a family lol
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The middle class nuclear family has gone the way of the Fordist corporation. It's creative destruction at work.
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Cultural Imperial posted:A senior software dev at hootsuite might make 90k. Actually, the package is now 85k plus a free Ryan Holmes standing desk
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Cultural Imperial posted:I've never heard of blue mountain Looks like a smaller hill than my neighbourhood.  That thing in the back is what you call a mountain you silly easterners
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Reverse Centaur posted:Looks like a smaller hill than my neighbourhood. There seems to be a trade off to living in that part of the country, but I can't quite place my finger on it...
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:"Socials" are creeping to Saskatchewan from Manitoba. Finally the excuse to build the fence
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Cultural Imperial posted:A senior software dev at hootsuite might make 90k. Despite being a "Canadian success", that's not good for software devs in Vancouver. 
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Some ski racers from Blue Mountain came to our club to train over Christmas. They can only set a 17 second GS course on their hill, so when they got to our run and we can do a full 90 second long course they were like "holy poo poo". Especially since the training run we use only uses like 1/6th or so of the vertical of the whole mountain.
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 Crap like this keeps appearing on my Facebook feed. I have no idea who is sponsoring it, but it looks scammy as hell. But hey, it says you guys NEED workers, maybe I should immigrate! Edit: made image less huge. Freezer fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Freezer posted:
We need lots of workers. Mental health workers, drug rehab workers, career counseling workers, payday loan workers... just don't expect to make a living wage or anything
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The first time I saw Blue Mountain was in the summer and I asked "Why does that hill have a chairlift on it?" because I couldn't believe anyone would use it for skiing.
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You think that's bad, now imagine the commercials on the radio every winter encouraging Winter Warriors to head out to Blue Mountain to hit the slopes
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large hands posted:We need lots of workers. Mental health workers, drug rehab workers, career counseling workers, payday loan workers... You forgot the important one: REALTORS.
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leftist heap posted:I don't see how it's good for software developers either. Salaries there seem like complete poo poo for most people. As a member of that group, I make better money in Montreal than I ever did in Vancouver. The move really hosed with my perspectives, I can get a mortgage on a house here for less than what I used to pay in rent in Burnaby.
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Pixelboy posted:Despite being a "Canadian success", that's not good for software devs in Vancouver. Or Toronto.
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leftist heap posted:I don't see how it's good for software developers either. Salaries there seem like complete poo poo for most people. we all work remote for california/seattle/new york companies and get giddy at the prospect of a cratering canadian dollar only suckers work for local companies
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Feb 4, 2016 02:46
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Just lol if you get paid in Canadian fun money
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Aramis posted:As a member of that group, I make better money in Montreal than I ever did in Vancouver. The move really hosed with my perspectives, I can get a mortgage on a house here for less than what I used to pay in rent in Burnaby. Montreal is also nicer city than Vancouver, in addition to having much more reasonable cost of living.
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How dare you it's the bet place on earth
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Aramis posted:As a member of that group, I make better money in Montreal than I ever did in Vancouver. The move really hosed with my perspectives, I can get a mortgage on a house here for less than what I used to pay in rent in Burnaby. Do you work in Montreal at a jobby-job? If so, what's the scene like there? Any language (i.e. French/English not node/ruby) issues at all in the tech world there?
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etalian posted:Montreal is also nicer city than Vancouver, in addition to having much more reasonable cost of living. Vancouverites can't conceptualize this, but it's so true. Superior on every dimension except perhaps natural beauty, but who GAF about that anyway after a while.
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How about weather? Don't get me wrong I adore Montreal, but let's not ignore the fact it's godawful in the winter.
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Lexicon posted:Do you work in Montreal at a jobby-job? If so, what's the scene like there? Any language (i.e. French/English not node/ruby) issues at all in the tech world there? I'm not sure what you mean by jobby-job, sorry. I think that my current job does not fall in that category, as there's not much of a scene to speak of. As far as language goes in the tech world, it's kinda funny. If there is a single person with an English accent in the room, all conversations switch to English. It's a weird Montreal reflex that french speakers developed as a courtesy. It actually makes learning french very hard. I, myself, am french Canadian, so I don't really care, but I have a lot of english-only coworkers, and they are doing just fine. Edit: The weather. Don't get me started on the loving weather in Vancouver. I'll take cold, dry, bright (snow on ground = double the light) winters over miserable rain non-stop for four months and 5 hours of "sunlight" per day, thank you very much. Aramis fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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It's cold as hell but I'd take that for the sunlight.
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ZShakespeare posted:Just lol if you get paid in CAD instead of Canadian Tire fun money
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Aramis posted:I'm not sure what you mean by jobby-job, sorry. I do suspect that my current job does not fall in that category. By jobby-job I simply mean a salaried position at a local office in the local market rather than doing remote consulting or something disconnected from the city's labour market.
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It's not the Montreal winters that terrify me, it's the summers. That's actually my weather issue for most of the rest of Canada, too drat hot.
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Helsing posted:How about weather? Don't get me wrong I adore Montreal, but let's not ignore the fact it's godawful in the winter. Let's go with my original solution, swap the physical locations of Vancouver and Montreal. Montreal is also a much more attractive city IMO due to old world charm in the more historic areas, while Vancouver feels like a hideous glass wall paradise built for new money shitheads similar to Dubai.
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etalian posted:a hideous glass wall paradise built for new money shitheads similar to Dubai. New thread title
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