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El Gallinero Gros posted:I have to think that with his current size they'd be less likely to sign him, not more. Dude is a walking apartment building. Wellness violations ahoy. Did you see Del Rio when he came back to WWE?
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Grozz Nuy posted:WWE doesn't actually give a poo poo about wellness anymore though, or else guys like Ryback would have been gone years ago Taking Cialis isn't a wellness violation okay?
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Electric Lady posted:Apparently he wrestled in FCW as Wolverine. Wonder how well that would've gotten over: A successful mixed gender tag team with Paige?
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Lady Naga posted:Taking Cialis isn't a wellness violation okay? What about JoMo?
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Grozz Nuy posted:WWE doesn't actually give a poo poo about wellness anymore though, or else guys like Ryback would have been gone years ago They were never against steroids however they were always for pr and whatever benefits come with wellness. Occasionally they will need to prove that they test effectively, and when they do they will do something sneaky like call up David Hart Smith to fail the test and punish accordingly.
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Feb 3, 2016 22:50
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Poor Hornswoggle getting popped for PED's while Ryback is injecting bullshark semen into his eyes or whatever smh
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Discount Trombones posted:Did you see Del Rio when he came back to WWE? Yeah but that doesn't really compare to Cage being 300 lbs of muscle easy. He looks like he ate B-Boy. I feel like it'd stick out more than Del Rio ever did.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He looks like he ate B-Boy. That was Matanza, which is not Spanish for machine.
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Halloween Jack posted:Do wrestlers get hit with the jock tax (income taxes levied by every state where they perform and make money) the same as other pro athletes? My understanding is that the main reason a lot of wrestlers live in Florida is a low-to-no income tax, but I wonder how much they benefit from that. Doing taxes in multiple states is bad enough when you're an actual employee, I don't want to imagine the hell it would be as a 1099 contractor.
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Halloween Jack posted:I believe the "outing" happened in '89 and it was about the more material goal of not being regulated by state athletic commissions. (Even more impressive is that he convinced the courts that his workers are independent contractors when that's a laugh and a loving half, but that's a separate issue.) Vince has never "convinced" any court, he's just said it on paper in every contract his talent signs. Sid sued for worker's comp and never argued that he was actually an employee until he had lost his case after his broken leg, so the appeals court refused to consider the issue, and Raven & co.'s suit was dismissed for being outside the statute of limitations.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Poor Hornswoggle getting popped for PED's while Ryback is injecting bullshark semen into his eyes or whatever smh I thought Hornswoggle was popped for missing a wellness test.
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Electric Lady posted:Apparently he wrestled in FCW as Wolverine. Wonder how well that would've gotten over: Weren't there two Wolverines in FCW?
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I've heard the "he didn't stop Ric Flair from getting drunk" excuse a million times but clearly that's bullshit because Ric's been back forever, so what's the real scoop on why JR is foreverbanned from everything WWE except that game apparently? Did a Stephanie actually have a ménage à trois
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That DICK! posted:I've heard the "he didn't stop Ric Flair from getting drunk" excuse a million times but clearly that's bullshit because Ric's been back forever, so what's the real scoop on why JR is foreverbanned from everything WWE except that game apparently? Did a Stephanie actually have a ménage à trois Kevin Dunn hates JR, Vince loves to troll him (they once wrote him out of the show without telling him), and the consensus with the people in power is that he's too much of a yesteryear rassling personality, his contributions as far and away better at commentary than any other guy they've had working in the last 20 odd years not withstanding. JR getting fired for a web event that 3 people watched is entirely just a case of the other shoe dropping.
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It was less that he didn't keep Ric sober and more that he didn't attempt to keep order when Ric was just goin' off. Which is fair. But his role in the organziation was already being marginalized at that point iirc and his last big get for them as a talent scout was Jack Swagger *e actually wasn't he involved in getting Big E to NXT?
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Alain Post posted:Vince likes to get rid of old people way before it's necessary. See: getting rid of Howard Finkel despite nobody else ever being able to do "the winner, and NEWWWWWWWWW-" as well as he did. Or him retiring Macho Man. Unless it's Moolah and Mae, they got to do gag reel spots until they turned to dust because of Vince's manbaby sexual humor.
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That DICK! posted:I've heard the "he didn't stop Ric Flair from getting drunk" excuse a million times but clearly that's bullshit because Ric's been back forever, so what's the real scoop on why JR is foreverbanned from everything WWE except that game apparently? Did a Stephanie actually have a ménage à trois It's not that he didn't stop Flair from getting drunk, he didn't rein him in and at times encouraged him going overboard on a WWE panel. As someone who already wasn't popular with some in the company it was the nail in the coffin. He's not even forever banned they've had some talks since.
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Wasn't there some rumors around WrestleMania season last year about WWE trying to get him back? He was at the HOF, if I remember right, which he hadn't been doing.
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Wasn't he at the HoF as Steve Austin's guest? Or was that a different year? Edit: I do like the idea of Austin thinking,"I gotta invite JR, he's a good friend AND he helped make me a millionaire" and Vince thinking,"Well I gotta let Steve invite who he wants, he's a good friend AND he helped make me a billionaire." Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Jerusalem posted:Wasn't he at the HoF as Steve Austin's guest? Or was that a different year? And JR thinks "I don't really want to go, but Steve's a good friend."
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Again, newbie here. I am curious about Daniel Bryan and his injury, how he got it, what the deal is with the guy. How about his biography? Is it worth reading? What matches should I watch (I have WWENetwork). Thanks
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he1ixx posted:Again, newbie here. I am curious about Daniel Bryan and his injury, how he got it, what the deal is with the guy. How about his biography? Is it worth reading? What matches should I watch (I have WWENetwork). Watch Summerslam 2013 to Wrestlemania 30.
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Endless Mike posted:Watch Summerslam 2013 to Wrestlemania 30. Done. Thanks for the quick reply. Let the beard-times commence...
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he1ixx posted:Again, newbie here. I am curious about Daniel Bryan and his injury, how he got it, what the deal is with the guy. How about his biography? Is it worth reading? What matches should I watch (I have WWENetwork). His injury was cumulative, his biography is not great as a book, but yes. His Rumble match with Bray Wyatt has been hailed as The Good Bray Wyatt Match.
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The PPV main events during that time are a terrible slog after Summerslam due to lovely booking and lovely finishes. Just watch Summerslam 2013, maybe that episode of Raw where Bryan has to do a gaunlet against Swagger, Cesaro, and Ryback, then maybe watch Royal Rumble 2014 and the runup to Wresltemania 30.
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he1ixx posted:Again, newbie here. I am curious about Daniel Bryan and his injury, how he got it, what the deal is with the guy. How about his biography? Is it worth reading? What matches should I watch (I have WWENetwork). Bryan worked a physically intense style that gave him dozens of concussions before he joined WWE. It also really hosed up his neck and arm He was forced to take time off after finally winning the title at WM30 to deal with the neck and arm issues. He came back around the Royal Rumble. He lasted a few more months without slowing down his style (doing headbutt and unprotected back bumps off a ladder) and received another concussion. Since then he hasn't been cleared to return to the ring by WWE's doctor because of the concussion and because he can not literally put a number of times he has been concussed in the past. He's pretty much in late '99 Bret Hart mode where he could probably wrestle again, but a company isn't going to put the man out there to die in the ring, especially after Benoit and all the other CTE events in the news cycle recently.
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Did Bryan consider doing MMA at one point, but realized his striking was hot trash and he was already too beat up (before he ever signed with WWE) to give it a shot?
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Endless Mike posted:Watch Summerslam 2013 to Wrestlemania 30. Actually just watch Summerslam 2013, then Rumble 2014, EC, March 14th Raw, the go-home Raw to Mania XXX and Mania XXX. Everything inbetween Summerslam and the Royal Rumble is actually really bad. Battleground 2013 is like the worst show of this era, so check that out if you're feeling masochistic. bradzilla fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Daniel Bryan is the story of Vince McMahon, a heroic sports entertainment promoter fighting his greatest nemesis, pro wrestling fans and what they actually find entertaining.
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bradzilla posted:Actually just watch Summerslam 2013, then Rumble 2014, EC, March 14th Raw, the go-home Raw to Mania XXX and Mania XXX. Everything inbetween Summerslam and the Royal Rumble is actually really bad. Battleground 2013 is like the worst show of this era, so check that out if you're feeling masochistic. Is the go home Raw the one where HHH and Steph spend 20 minutes trying to kill Bryan because I thought that was a couple weeks before. Definitely watch that one though.
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Halloween Jack posted:Daniel Bryan is the story of Vince McMahon, a heroic sports entertainment promoter fighting his greatest nemesis, pro wrestling fans and what they actually find entertaining. This is going to be controversial, but I'm ok with denying the fans the right to watch a man to die in the ring because they find it entertaining.
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Somebody once said that Wrestlemania 30 should have been the final episode of WWE, because it couldn't possibly go out on a higher note. While that's a rather silly thing to say, it does go to show just how loving incredible a show WM30 ended up being (only a few weeks before people had been genuinely saying they might skip Mania entirely because it looked so boring) with the show-length storyline of Bryan's undeniable fight to the top just a fantastic capstone.
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ayn rand hand job posted:This is going to be controversial, but I'm ok with denying the fans the right to watch a man to die in the ring because they find it entertaining. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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ayn rand hand job posted:This is going to be controversial, but I'm ok with denying the fans the right to watch a man to die in the ring because they find it entertaining. no, that was last year. we're talking about 2013 right now
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Jerusalem posted:Somebody once said that Wrestlemania 30 should have been the final episode of WWE, because it couldn't possibly go out on a higher note. 30 really is one of the WWE's finest hours. Bryan's story is one of the best moments of fan catharsis the WWE's had and between that, The Shield committing actual murder and Cesaro winning the ARMBAR there was a real sense of change and newness, while the show still gave traditional moments like Wrestling's Protagonist John Cena having a strong feelgood win and the Undertaker losing his streak, which might actually be the single most unexpected thing to happen on a WWE show. It felt like they were finally arriving at some next-level, new-generation poo poo. ...they didn't, unfortunately, but man, it was an awesome night.
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Is there any place to see the order of shows to make sure I'm going in order? WWE's search really leaves something to be desired. Monday RAW Thursday Smackdown .... any site showing the actual sequence that includes stuff like the PPVs and stuff? or will it be obvious?
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CarlCX posted:30 really is one of the WWE's finest hours. Bryan's story is one of the best moments of fan catharsis the WWE's had and between that, The Shield committing actual murder and Cesaro winning the ARMBAR there was a real sense of change and newness, while the show still gave traditional moments like Wrestling's Protagonist John Cena having a strong feelgood win and the Undertaker losing his streak, which might actually be the single most unexpected thing to happen on a WWE show. If I remember right, the show also started with Hogan, Austin and Rock in the ring where Austin (I think) said words to the effect of,"It's great we're here, but our time has passed, and it's time to see a new generation of stars take the spotlight", and the show that followed did give a very real sense that this was the way they intended to go. They didn't, but at least for the night it felt that way.
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