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alcaras posted:So what's the "correct" way to build retinues, post-conclave? Just build your cultural retinue, as long as it's not light infantry. If your cultural retinue IS light infantry, build heavy infantry.
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gfanikf posted:Well I feel like an idiot. For the longest time I've never tried using the raiding feature, mostly because I though the loot option was different (and not playing pagans for a while), but now Only if you're Germanic Pagan. Other religions can't do coastal raids - they can only raid direct neighbours. If you are Germanic pagan, then you can raid anywhere along the coast and the spoils will be stored in the galleys until you bring them home (they can only hold a certain amount of gold per boat, though, and you need to keep them parked in the ocean tile next to the province you're raiding for it to work).
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One of my vassals, and bastard half-brother, just assassinated Glitterhoof so he could get a place on the council. Games › Crusader Kings II: Conclave - That bastard just assassinated Chancellor Gliterhoof!
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Feb 4, 2016 18:45
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When raiding neighbors as a Germanic pagan, do you get the prestige and gold? Or do you only get the prestige when you bring a gold-laden ship back to port?
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Feb 4, 2016 19:05
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Alright, so I've been playing as Dublin in the 769 start and I have half the island as tributaries. I'd like to form the duchy before my guy dies so I had the tributary there killed so I could press my fabricated claim on Kildare. Only problem is that the tributary status transferred to his kid and I still can't declare war. What do I have to do to press my claim on him?
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Feb 4, 2016 19:06
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Astroclassicist posted:One of my vassals, and bastard half-brother, just assassinated Glitterhoof so he could get a place on the council. He made you an offer you couldn't refuse.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:07
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Clanpot Shake posted:When raiding neighbors as a Germanic pagan, do you get the prestige and gold? Or do you only get the prestige when you bring a gold-laden ship back to port? Whenever the raid gold gets put into your little bank account thing, you get prestige equal to it.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:09
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Neighbor raiding is why as nomads I keep one separate horde that stays on a forever-tour of raiding along my borders. The spoils from that horde pays for the actual war horde made up of heavy cav and horse archers.
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Feb 4, 2016 19:51
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Steam sale where lots of CK2 DLC is 50% off? Goddamnit, I need to eat this month
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Only if you're Germanic Pagan. Other religions can't do coastal raids - they can only raid direct neighbours. If you are Germanic pagan, then you can raid anywhere along the coast and the spoils will be stored in the galleys until you bring them home (they can only hold a certain amount of gold per boat, though, and you need to keep them parked in the ocean tile next to the province you're raiding for it to work).  THIS IS WRONG! I've seen this so often, but EVERY religion that can raid can do coastal raids. The only special mechanic with Germanic Pagans is their ability to sail down major rivers! You absolutely can do coastal raids as a Slavic, Romuva, Hindu, etc. character. Of course, Germanic Pagans get shipyards for free with the start of the Viking Age, while everyone else will be hard pressed to afford the steep gold cost of the shipyard upgrade with the lovely tribal income and most likely equally poor tribes all around you.
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Feb 4, 2016 20:10
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Torrannor posted:Of course, Germanic Pagans get shipyards for free with the start of the Viking Age, while everyone else will be hard pressed to afford the steep gold cost of the shipyard upgrade with the lovely tribal income and most likely equally poor tribes all around you. The shipyards are tied to Norse culture, not Germanic religion as far as I know. It could be tied to both, but Norse culture I know is mandatory.
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Feb 4, 2016 20:20
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Volkerball posted:The shipyards are tied to Norse culture, not Germanic religion as far as I know. It could be tied to both, but Norse culture I know is mandatory. Right, I forgot. It's definitely at least tied to Norse culture, but it could be that you have to be Germanic or at least pagan as well. I think it even depends on the province culture. But I'm too lazy to look it up. Saxon don't get shipyards, and they are Germanic Pagans.
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Feb 4, 2016 20:28
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Torrannor posted:
Speaking of sailing up rivers, what exactly ends that ability? I understand it has something to do with the fort level of the counties at the river mouth, but I just tried yesterday to sail up a river that I own all of the counties along and it didn't let me (year is ~1200). Seems like I should be able to sail up rivers I own.
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Feb 4, 2016 20:34
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Clanpot Shake posted:Speaking of sailing up rivers, what exactly ends that ability? I understand it has something to do with the fort level of the counties at the river mouth, but I just tried yesterday to sail up a river that I own all of the counties along and it didn't let me (year is ~1200). Seems like I should be able to sail up rivers I own. I had that problem as well. It seems you cannot sail these rivers after a certain fort level is reached, even if you control them.  I don't know if it's working as intended or just a bug.By the way, this is an interesting read: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Raiding CK2wiki posted:Cultures, Religions and Government types which can raid
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Feb 4, 2016 20:47
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My heir conquered a bunch of Nomad land so I have some empty provinces. How can I give them away? The vassal who wants them isn't asking for them.
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Feb 4, 2016 20:50
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Conclave is rad but I wish the favors system went even further. Like if the Patriarch owes me one, why can't I cash that in by excommunicating someone?
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Feb 4, 2016 21:01
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At least the AI is clever. I had almost crushed those uppity vassals that wanted EVEN MORE council power. The warscore was 96%, and my vassal made a peace offer. I of course immediately accepted their surrender without reading the message  Event log: The war ended: White Peace 
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Feb 4, 2016 21:10
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:My heir conquered a bunch of Nomad land so I have some empty provinces. How can I give them away? The vassal who wants them isn't asking for them. If you aren't nomadic yourself, you need to build a holding there first before you can give it away.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:15
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Holy crap, I'm covered in gay kids. Why are so many of my kids turning gay?? Also, I'm going to have to remember to take screenshots of all my child-raising events now, because I've had two that I could SWEAR did the exact opposite of what the tooltips said they'd do. Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 21:15
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Midnight Voyager posted:Holy crap, I'm covered in gay kids. Why are so many of my kids turning gay?? From Reddit, apparently there's an event that has a pretty solid chance of turning the AI homosexual. Steam screenshot
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Zero Gravitas posted:Steam sale where lots of CK2 DLC is 50% off? Goddamnit, I need to eat this month Just don't buy the ebooks....at least that's how I rationalized it. Honky Dong Country posted:Neighbor raiding is why as nomads I keep one separate horde that stays on a forever-tour of raiding along my borders. The spoils from that horde pays for the actual war horde made up of heavy cav and horse archers. I like this idea! Quick question how does ones non vassal soldiers increase and reconstitute (excluding tribal armies and special event armies)?
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Feb 4, 2016 21:38
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darthbob88 posted:From Reddit, apparently there's an event that has a pretty solid chance of turning the AI homosexual. JFC, I noticed. You'd think it'd be weighted or something. While I'm at it, dod they take out notifications for kids needing educators? I know they aren't terribly useful, but it's weird that the game just forgets they can be assigned.
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Midnight Voyager posted:JFC, I noticed. You'd think it'd be weighted or something. In a way, you don't really need to assign tutors anymore. There's an exception if you want to shift the culture and/or the religion of a kid, but otherwise it seems as if they game simply auto-assign suitable tutors.
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Torrannor posted:In a way, you don't really need to assign tutors anymore. There's an exception if you want to shift the culture and/or the religion of a kid, but otherwise it seems as if they game simply auto-assign suitable tutors. It seems like an assigned tutor is different from an unassigned one though. My kids have Educators, and the Educator is me, but I don't have them as a "ward". If I assign myself as an educator, they are then made my ward. I'm not clear on what the difference is here.
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jruderman posted:The event you're looking at doesn't fire for all characters, though. The event chain starts with the hidden event ZE.13997 from on_adolescence_pulse. So the best way to stop your kids from being gay is to make them sick and lock them up.
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Midnight Voyager posted:It seems like an assigned tutor is different from an unassigned one though. My kids have Educators, and the Educator is me, but I don't have them as a "ward". If I assign myself as an educator, they are then made my ward. Yeah I'm not sure either since I don't assign educators, even to myself, and I still get events related to their upbringing. Maybe if you assign an educator other than yourself before focuses are chosen then the educator will choose them? gfanikf posted:I like this idea! Was this question for me? Cause I don't understand it. I may or may not be a moron. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Torrannor posted:I had that problem as well. It seems you cannot sail these rivers after a certain fort level is reached, even if you control them. I think it's meant to represent the permanency of the fortifications and development. Like you can't sail up the river if there's tons of big stone bridges across it, because the neighboring counties are too developed.
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I started an ironman game as Matilda of Tuscany in 1066. Boring I know but I want it easy starting out with conclave. So I just had a second son and I am still on gavelkind. Even with low centralization I am still over demesne limit, 7/6 and my only relatively strong vassal is the count of Parma and Corsica. The rest are lovely mayors I don't care about. Should I change to elective and give away a county or two, or endure the malus from demesne too big? Or switch to seniority? I suppose keeping gavelkind is foolish since I plan to have more sons if possible...
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come on abbasid fall to poo poo you make me nervous sitting here next to you as zunbil
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TorakFade posted:I started an ironman game as Matilda of Tuscany in 1066. Boring I know but I want it easy starting out with conclave. I'd go seniority if it were me. ^^^^^^And lol been there, poo poo's scary.
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Honky Dong Country posted:I'd go seniority if it were me. once the 769 caliph finally dies i wont be as worried since the lose all those tributaries but then im stuck in the middle of them too
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Honky Dong Country posted:Was this question for me? Cause I don't understand it. I may or may not be a moron. fake edit: in short I was asking how to Maximizing demesne levies...but I also just found the wiki with tips on that. That said I think a lot of it is out of date, so any tips people have I'd love to hear them.
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Honky Dong Country posted:I'd go seniority if it were me. Yeah thought so, actually I have no other family members since it's the very beginning, and it will work as primogeniture. Later on I guess my kids will have to sort that poo poo out but eh, it's not always good to be the Grand Duke. Now that over demesne limit malus ... should I be doing something about it, or just increase centralization a bit more?
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TorakFade posted:I started an ironman game as Matilda of Tuscany in 1066. Boring I know but I want it easy starting out with conclave. Switching out of gavelkind makes your demesne limit smaller, not larger. Elective can get you screwed real easy so I usually prefer to endure Gavelkind until I can get late feudal administration and then Ultimo. Elective can be more attractive later when most of your vassals are dynasty members (so even if they screw you out of your preferred heir you'll probably just take over as whoever they elected rather than getting a game over or busted back to count) but even then it's not advisable unless you really know what you're doing. e: A seniority game is an interesting way to play as a challenge game. You tend to change rulers about every 4 years, you always have to deal with short reign maluses and you're usually playing lovely characters.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Switching out of gavelkind makes your demesne limit smaller, not larger. Yeah but with two sons gavelkind is gonna gently caress him. If he can't get to ultimo before his ruler dies I'd say seniority is the best option until ultimo or elective monarchy can be used or something. As for the demesne, if it were me I'd try raising centralization if I can. Failing that I just give the titles to some dynasty member. I'm pretty casual with this game though and somebody else might know a more optimal course of action.
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Eric the Mauve posted:e: A seniority game is an interesting way to play as a challenge game. You tend to change rulers about every 4 years, you always have to deal with short reign maluses and you're usually playing lovely characters. You usually start with a small dynasty, so especially at the beginning of a game it tends to be an alright inheritance system. Especially compared to gavelkind. gfanikf posted:General question to everyone about troop levels, how do I increase my non vassal provided troops, the personal levies. I'm just trying to understand how the mechanics work. It's so much nicer to be able to just use them for raiding or other purposes without having vassal penalties for having troops called out. A higher marital stat gives you more levies from your castles. All castles in your capital county get +50% levies, and all castles in your capital duchy give +25% levies. So choose a big duchy with a province with many castles as your capital, then stab the other barons in your capital to inherit the castles. Then park your marshal there to train troops, all the castles in your capital will benefit from the levy bonus provided by your marshal.
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gfanikf posted:General question to everyone about troop levels, how do I increase my non vassal provided troops, the personal levies. I'm just trying to understand how the mechanics work. It's so much nicer to be able to just use them for raiding or other purposes without having vassal penalties for having troops called out. The general idea is two have two duke titles, and as many of the counties in them as you can. If at that point you can have more holdings and you're under your personal limit, you can build more castles an keep them for yourself. It may take some scheming to get all of the counties in your de-jure ducal territory though. You can also upgrade your holdings with new or upgraded buildings that increase levy size. Click on the county, click on the holding that you own, and just buy whatever building provides the troops you like. Feudal use gold, tribal buys buildings with prestige.
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Something I've never been quite clear on: does the AI know about special createable titles (like the "form the HRE" decision) as long term goals? I know they'll take the decisions if they meet the requirements already, but will they actively attempt to meet those requirements?
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Hi how do I primogeniture in a post enclave world? tia err nevermind I think I see the problem, need to pick up late feudal admin. I already know the crown authority stuff is just lazy (lack of) ini editing on paradox's part. Oops.
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Asproigerosis posted:Hi how do I primogeniture in a post enclave world? tia Remember to scroll down in the "realm" tab to find late feudal admin. But you're right, crown authority shouldn't appear in the tooltip.
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