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Strudel Man posted:The thermodynamic issues isn't with the rate of baby production, it's with the fact that having a baby to then eat that baby represents a net loss in usable energy. That's actually exactly what I meant, although I'll grant that 'fast' was perhaps the wrong term. In enough proportion. Yeah.
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Not to suggest it makes things plausible or logical, but y'all did notice the cripple faction at the back of the train, right?
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Feb 4, 2016 23:19
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Rewatching Game of Thrones, first season. I am trying to wrap my head around Ned Stark's expectations for what the gently caress would happen once he confronted the Queen about her, you know, loving her brother and maiming his own son. So honorable man he is, he goes right to the bitch, says he knows her weakness, tells her to leave, and...that's it? Did he really expect someone as hosed up as her to just pack her bags without explanation and hide with her kids? She's the loving Queen, her being gone will make a lot of people panic. And no one will believe she just went into exile for shits and giggles. She has more to lose by doing what he said, and even knowing she's a bitch and has no problem hurting a child, he thinks his plan will work. Along those lines, in Season 5 why did Littlefinger pass Sansa over to the Boltons? Sure she had a choice, but it seemed pretty off for him to just toss her to another family. Unless he was privately upset she didn't beg to marry him or something likely weird. It just seemed a little odd that he decided to play with the Boltons with his one key piece left.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:25
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I don't even get why there even needed to be an underclass present in the first place. Wilford implies the one thing the tail enders are good for is 'making kids'. But based on how everything else on the train is so tightly controlled I don't see why you couldn't have some kind of breeding program among the actually productive members of the train. The whole fabricate a revolution to cull down the population just seems inefficient. How did the train cross oceans? I never got a good look at the map of its path, but it looked like this crazy squiggly mess across the planet. Why is it necessary for a trip around the world to take exactly one year? Why would the Revolt of the Seven decide to pick the WORST possible place to try to escape, some high altitude steppes in asia? Why not do it somewhere closer to the equator, where the climate is more likely to be slightly less freezing?
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Feb 4, 2016 23:28
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Cowslips Warren posted:Rewatching Game of Thrones, first season. I am trying to wrap my head around Ned Stark's expectations for what the gently caress would happen once he confronted the Queen about her, you know, loving her brother and maiming his own son. So honorable man he is, he goes right to the bitch, says he knows her weakness, tells her to leave, and...that's it? Did he really expect someone as hosed up as her to just pack her bags without explanation and hide with her kids? She's the loving Queen, her being gone will make a lot of people panic. And no one will believe she just went into exile for shits and giggles. She has more to lose by doing what he said, and even knowing she's a bitch and has no problem hurting a child, he thinks his plan will work. The point is Ned is honourable, he expects the queen of near 20 years to be honourable, too. He is a man who walks into a situation hopelessly out-classed because he is around 20 years behind what is going on. I mean, he's (timelessly) honourable and the silly gently caress expects everyone to behave with his same values.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Rewatching Game of Thrones, first season. I am trying to wrap my head around Ned Stark's expectations for what the gently caress would happen once he confronted the Queen about her, you know, loving her brother and maiming his own son. So honorable man he is, he goes right to the bitch, says he knows her weakness, tells her to leave, and...that's it? Did he really expect someone as hosed up as her to just pack her bags without explanation and hide with her kids? She's the loving Queen, her being gone will make a lot of people panic. And no one will believe she just went into exile for shits and giggles. She has more to lose by doing what he said, and even knowing she's a bitch and has no problem hurting a child, he thinks his plan will work. Part of why (are these really spoilers at this point) Ned and Rob both died is becuase they didn't know how to play the game of thrones for poo poo. They both gently caress it up left and right, and they get killed for it. That's a really important theme of ASOIAF as GRRM writes. Good people don't live just because they're good, you have to also have a head on your shoulders and fight for whats yours. Similarly though evil people don't necessarily triumph either, its all more a bunch of grey. But the Starks' were generally naive and they suffer for it. You see a lot of the same thing in the prequel series about Dunk and Egg (Duncan and Aegon), where they're really good people but then Aegon grows up to be a king and even though he cares about the common folk, he doesn't know poo poo about statecraft. So his reign is fraught with conflict and he slowly loses his mind. All Ned was thinking was better make sure her kids don't get hurt. Because he's a nice guy. But he's naive because he didn't even imagine the real way the Queen would respond. He just assumed she'd do what he would do in that situation and roll over. She was caught, you see. Say what you will about Tywin being an rear end in a top hat, I respected him because he loving got it. He saw the game of thrones for what it was and he played to win. Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 23:57 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 23:53
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Feb 5, 2016 00:00
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Tywin was the coldest motherfucker. Charles Dance loving killed it too. The scenes with him and Arya at Harrenhal were my favourite.
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Feb 5, 2016 00:09
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Cowslips Warren posted:Rewatching Game of Thrones, first season. I am trying to wrap my head around Ned Stark's expectations for what the gently caress would happen once he confronted the Queen about her, you know, loving her brother and maiming his own son. So honorable man he is, he goes right to the bitch, says he knows her weakness, tells her to leave, and...that's it? Did he really expect someone as hosed up as her to just pack her bags without explanation and hide with her kids? She's the loving Queen, her being gone will make a lot of people panic. And no one will believe she just went into exile for shits and giggles. She has more to lose by doing what he said, and even knowing she's a bitch and has no problem hurting a child, he thinks his plan will work. Ned Stark is a good man that likes to believe people, even horrible people who do bad things, are at their core good. He was wrong.
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Cowslips Warren posted:
The second question you had the answer is the show writers took the source material and threw it in the dumpster and made up the previous season out of whole cloth. Nobody knows anything, characterization is meaningless, and there is nobody who can answer your question now. He did that because they completely cut out a character from the books, and since they threw out everything cool littlefinger was doing, and sansa therefore wouldn't be doing anything anyway, combined those characters. There's no rhyme or reason. There's no logical consistency. It's not an irrational movie moment when it's just absolute nonsense thrown at the wall sprinkled with titties and busywork. It's like one of those surgeries where a big toe can be made to replace a penis or rear end skin can cover a huge burn on your face? But done by back alley doctors who saw a youtube about suturing one time. It's a huge mess!
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Feb 5, 2016 00:37
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Krinkle posted:It's like one of those surgeries where a big toe can be made to replace a penis Taking Tarantino's foot fetish to a whole new level.
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Feb 5, 2016 00:44
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speshl guy posted:I get the criticism levied against World War Z but overall I thought it was an intense and enjoyable ride. What took me right out of it though was that it was established late in the movie that the zombies have a sense of smell sensitive enough to detect fatal viruses and diseases in the human body, and they subsequently avoid those afflicted, yet on a plane a whole horde of zombies are totally oblivious to dozens of healthy, perspiring passengers quietly hiding behind a curtain (at least until some idiot drops a bag). The movie ends up making complete sense if you look at Brad Pitt's character as the harbinger of Death.
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Krinkle posted:The second question you had the answer is the show writers took the source material and threw it in the dumpster and made up the previous season out of whole cloth. Nobody knows anything, characterization is meaningless, and there is nobody who can answer your question now. He did that because they completely cut out a character from the books, and since they threw out everything cool littlefinger was doing, and sansa therefore wouldn't be doing anything anyway, combined those characters. There's no rhyme or reason. There's no logical consistency. It's not an irrational movie moment when it's just absolute nonsense thrown at the wall sprinkled with titties and busywork. Man, the next eight weeks can't go fast enough. The level at which the showrunners are going to have to make up ridiculous bullshit to keep the show going is going to be entertaining as hell. I expect a serious drop-off in the consistency of the plot this season, but the level of entertainment to be either stable or increase.
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Feb 5, 2016 01:41
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Memento posted:Man, the next eight weeks can't go fast enough. The level at which the showrunners are going to have to make up ridiculous bullshit to keep the show going is going to be entertaining as hell. The last season was like a group of people hurredly explaining the entire book in 30 seconds and cutting out everything interesting to just say where everyone ends up by the end of it. Extrapolating this, the next season is going to be like D&D spoiling the end of the book series, and it'll be true, but it'll make about as much sense as reading the hobbit and then being told gollum bites off frodo's finger and falls into the cracks of mount doom then everyone flies home on a giant eagle. Except the excited to spoil the next book for you plot-as-the-crow-flies explainer tosses in extra rape and child murder to keep you interested. Krinkle has a new favorite as of 02:12 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 02:09
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Huh, more hate towards tarantino. Apparently that scene in Hateful 8 where Kurt Russell smashes the guitar? That was a real 1860's guitar antique that was loaned to the movie from a museum. The kicker? They had several replica guitars made to smash instead, but quentin wanted "Authenticity". 
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Feb 5, 2016 09:25
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Snowpiercer is a metaphor for capitalism, as an out-of-control train that literally feeds on the underclasses while the upper classes live a life of decadent idleness and just keeps getting worse and worse until it finally derails. It's not supposed to be a realistic hard sci-fi story.
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Feb 5, 2016 09:43
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Sleeveless posted:Snowpiercer is a metaphor for capitalism, as an out-of-control train that literally feeds on the underclasses while the upper classes live a life of decadent idleness and just keeps getting worse and worse until it finally derails. It's not supposed to be a realistic hard sci-fi story. Of course, but goons are incapable of parsing metaphor.
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Feb 5, 2016 09:51
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Snowpiercer has all kinds of problems if taken literally, but I thought it was pretty obvious that it was written by design as an allegory? Or am I giving the writers too much credit here?
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Feb 5, 2016 10:00
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HairyManling posted:Snowpiercer has all kinds of problems if taken literally, but I thought it was pretty obvious that it was written by design as an allegory? Or am I giving the writers too much credit here? No it is really, almost insultingly, on the nose
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Feb 5, 2016 10:09
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In Brazil, those phones are really lovely. Isn't this supposed to be the future? And what's with the big pipes everywhere?
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Feb 5, 2016 10:34
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Not really irrational, but I can't help but watch The Rock whenever its on, and it always bugs me when the guy is looking at a computer screen and all the letters and numbers on his screen are projected perfectly on his face. Thats not how monitors work! edit: I also find it funny that HBO:GO is advertising Predators using a cool shot that doesn't happen in the movie at all. 
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Feb 5, 2016 15:13
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Cage posted:Not really irrational, but I can't help but watch The Rock whenever its on, and it always bugs me when the guy is looking at a computer screen and all the letters and numbers on his screen are projected perfectly on his face. Thats not how monitors work! I don't think that's just HBO:GO. I'm pretty sure that's a shot from the original trailer.
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Murphys Law posted:I don't think that's just HBO:GO. I'm pretty sure that's a shot from the original trailer. edit: Didnt mean to word it like HBO was the first to do that.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:33
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My current IIMM is the fact that there's no Dredd sequel 
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Biplane posted:My current IIMM is the fact that there's no Dredd sequel But there is a prequel  I AM THE LAWWWW
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Feb 5, 2016 16:36
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Biplane posted:My current IIMM is the fact that there's no Dredd sequel There's three official comic sequels in the movie Dredd continuity now. Also they're trying to get someone to pick it up for TV.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:52
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At first I thought Dredd was just a worse knockoff of The Raid, but its grown on me since. I like the sci-fi setting they've got, although it doesn't show as much of the whole megacity thing as the previous Judge Dredd film did, for all its flaws. Seriously The Raid is so good.
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Murphys Law posted:I don't think that's just HBO:GO. I'm pretty sure that's a shot from the original trailer. That's one of my irrationally irritating movie things, when the trailer has a memorable shot/scene that's not in the final movie. Biggest one recently for me was the shot of the rocket going up into the sky in the teaser trailer for Interstellar. Another Nolan movie, this TV spot for Dark Knight uses a very slightly different take for Joker's line "Very poor choice of words" that I like a lot better than the one in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9jnE8o5RI And to get a bit more irrational, this shot from the Fury Road trailer wasn't in the movie either: 
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It bugs the hell out of me that David Spade's character in Tommy Boy orders a shrimp cocktail from a glass case in a roadside diner in the middle of the midwest that's so slow it shuts its friers off in the middle of the day and so understaffed that the waitress also cooks wings, and it wasn't used as the setup for a food poisoning scene.
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Grendels Dad posted:In Brazil, those phones are really lovely. Isn't this supposed to be the future? And what's with the big pipes everywhere? They're ducts It's an aesthetic meant to convey how lovely everything would be under total state planning and control. I think Gilliam felt this way after living in England for so long. It's also meant to reflect the central planning in 1984 and the USSR. DeNiro's distinctly American character comes in to cut through the bloody paperwork, which eventually engulfs Sam, and fixes his ducts with a work-around.
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syscall girl posted:They're ducts I was mocking the complaints about Snowpiercer. But thanks for reminding me that I need to watch Brazil again.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Huh, more hate towards tarantino. Apparently that scene in Hateful 8 where Kurt Russell smashes the guitar? That was a real 1860's guitar antique that was loaned to the movie from a museum. Seriously? Why even use a priceless ~150-year-old guitar for a goddamn movie? I loved the movie, but Tarantino is one hell of an rear end in a top hat sometimes. Imagine if someone had found a perfectly preserved copy of the full cut of Metropolis and just set it on fire for the sake of a scene in a movie. He would have been absolutely livid and probably gone on some kind of rage-fueled murder spree. But nooo, it's perfectly fine to smash an old instrument, because "it's just a guitar". KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 22:34 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Grendels Dad posted:I was mocking the complaints about Snowpiercer. But thanks for reminding me that I need to watch Brazil again. My first post of the day is inevitably daft. 
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syscall girl posted:My first post of the day is inevitably daft. Don't feel bad, the thing with De Niro's accent escaped me on prior viewings so I'll have something to keep an ear open for on my next one.
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I really want to like Breakfast at Tiffanys but hooooooooly poo poo is it hard to get past Mickey Rooney in yellow face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC5RtcypOqE
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KozmoNaut posted:Seriously? I thought it was that they didn't know it was the real deal until after the fact and then Tarantino loved that cut so much he used it?
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syscall girl posted:It's an aesthetic meant to convey how lovely everything would be under total state planning and control. I think Gilliam felt this way after living in England for so long. It's also meant to reflect the central planning in 1984 and the USSR. quote:in London, where people were just smashing through all the ornate cornice work to put plumbing pipes on the outside.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I really want to like Breakfast at Tiffanys but hooooooooly poo poo is it hard to get past Mickey Rooney in yellow face Could be worse, that was in '61. Adam Sandler's Eight Crazy Nights was in 2002 and features the worst Rob Schneider yellowface imaginable. Uggggggh. Luckily there's nothing redeeming about that film so there's no reason to watch it.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I really want to like Breakfast at Tiffanys but hooooooooly poo poo is it hard to get past Mickey Rooney in yellow face He deserved that elder abuse. Zaphod42 posted:Could be worse, that was in '61. You mean I now pronounce you chuck and larry right?
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Krinkle posted:You mean I now pronounce you chuck and larry right? No, but I forgot he did literal yellowface in that movie too. Rob Schneider is a crime against humanity.
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