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Helsing posted:Also, I think I figured out why Swagger had to delete a bunch of his old posts. About this guy.... I get the impression that is history here shouldn't really reflect too much on the Liberals. From what I've heard the intention was to have the clerk stay until she found her own replacement, but clearly something happened. This guy was the deputy and is interim while they do their search for someone they actually pick.
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sbaldrick posted:This is so loving wrong it hurts me. Yes, the education requirement changed fairly recently. My own experience is, again, that there seems to be a marked difference in breadth of knowledge between those with a degree and those with a diploma (RNs included). I decided to look it up to see if there was any actual facts to support my anecodatal evidence, and there was: quote:According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, 60.1 per cent of RNs are diploma educated. https://www.cna-aiic.ca/en/becoming-an-rn/education/rn-baccalaureate-education#footer2 Every private long-term care facility that my girlfriend has worked at (three at this point) has had an RN on shift 24/7. This has been in BC and NS. At the hospital, the only unit she's worked at that doesn't have a dedicated RN is stabilization for recovering detox patients (but there is an RN at detox next door). I won't get into details, but only having an RN on 12 hrs out of the day in the (relatively quiet) stabilization section has caused some serious problems. There seems to be this "rivalry" between RNs and LPNs. Some LPNs feel that they are no different than RNs. Some RNs feel that they're superior to LPNs. It's loving stupid. Fundamentally they're different roles. One of those roles happens to demand a higher level of education, critical thinking and responsibility, and therefore commands a higher rate of pay.
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EvilJoven posted:It's already signed AFAIK. Yep  International Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland signed the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement on Thursday, but made it clear that signing is not the same as ratifying. (David Rowland/SNPA via Associated Press) But then, PMSH and the EC president signed CETA in October 2013 and that went nowhere.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:08
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That's the picture of us being hosed so hard I can't even laugh about it.
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Seriously I loving hate this country and this society fuckfuckfuck we are so screwed gently caress this.
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💯 nailed it https://twitter.com/reutersLjungg/status/695275955904987136
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EvilJoven posted:That's the picture of us being hosed so hard I can't even laugh about it. There's no downside to signing it now. We have the ratify and join TPP or not ratify and be out. If they don't sign it, we have only the option to be out. I rage against the Liberals but why wouldn't they sign it today? I think signing us gives the lawyers and politicians a chance to verify that the TPP is bad but things would be worse without it. They can vote on ratifying it in parliament and everyone gets their vote counted. quote:"Those consultations in Canada very much will include aboriginal communities, they are a very important part of the national discussion," Freeland said. "We are committed to a full parliamentary committee study and a full parliamentary debate ahead of ratification." At what point does bringing up aboriginal communities in every single government decision and statement start to get a little patronizing? I stared at this for minutes and can't figure it out. Is it an insult? Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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DariusLikewise posted:If we were have the ability to opt out of the TPP right now wouldn't we be hosed anyways? Countries in the TPP would gain the ability to lock us out or place stupidly high tariffs on goods until we entered the TPP again as far as I see it. How? The TPP isn't really about trade and outside a few small areas is unlikely to remove any more tariffs. We've already removed all those barriers through NAFTA and the WTO. There's also no mechanism for removing us from the most favored nations clauses in the WTO agreement just because we didn't sign on to some future "trade" deal. This narrative that we're going to be shut out of some new "free trade" area is bullshit used to promote the idea that the deal is unavoidable. But this whole exercise is really about locking in US economic hegemony, in particular by doubling down on America's utterly broken economic model. Jordan7hm posted:About this guy.... I get the impression that is history here shouldn't really reflect too much on the Liberals. From what I've heard the intention was to have the clerk stay until she found her own replacement, but clearly something happened. This guy was the deputy and is interim while they do their search for someone they actually pick. Even if that's the case, when Trudeau was asked about this guy by Mulcair his response was a classic politician's none answer where he just ignored the question and then praised the guy and said how excited he was to work with him.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:24
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Ikantski posted:I stared at this for minutes and can't figure it out. Is it an insult? It sounds like an elitist put down of poor people. Turns out the Reuters journo just didn't bother transcribing the second half of the quote~ https://twitter.com/jeffjedras/status/695356661062500353
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Feb 4, 2016 22:27
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My favorite Bill Moreneau quote is when he dismissed 13% youth unemployment because that still means that 87% of youth are employed, and besides, if you're smart you'll find a job.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:31
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Pinterest Mom posted:It sounds like an elitist put down of poor people. Yeah that still sounds a little elitist. "OOh Tories are like people living paycheque to paycheque who think they're middle class lol" I like this guy.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:37
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Ikantski posted:people living paycheque to paycheque who think they're middle class lol 
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Feb 4, 2016 22:39
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I know I'm middle glass because my parents drank more wine than beer growing up, please don't pay attention to my bank account.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:40
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The trick is to get the poor people to believe they are middle class and tell them that the poor are trying to take away their middle class money.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:54
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If you have a preference between Chardonay and Pinot Grigio you're clearly middle class. Oh you're skeptical? Well let me just refer you to this sweet condo that I used my line of credit to make a 5% down payment on.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:57
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Helsing posted:Even if that's the case, when Trudeau was asked about this guy by Mulcair his response was a classic politician's none answer where he just ignored the question and then praised the guy and said how excited he was to work with him. Yeah no question. I'm just saying maybe give the Libs a pass on this guy, because it wasn't really an appointment they went out to pick. They just took the next person in line while they look for their own person. It's not like a politician can ever actually say that about a bureaucrat though. e: I was pretty mad about this guy getting the job until I spoke with someone who had a bit more insight into what happened.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:30
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Ikantski posted:"people living paycheque to paycheque who think they're middle class" Rename the thread we have a winner
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Pinterest Mom posted:I know I'm middle glass because my parents drank more wine than beer growing up, please don't pay attention to my bank account. Class is about attitude not income level. My bank account might not be full but I believe there's a safety net behind me if I fall, and that it'll all work out in the end.
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Let us begin a new era of international isolationism. We don't need anyone because we're Canada! Burn the tpp!!!
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So, what does make a person or household middle class? Or low, or high?
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if you think that politicians actually care about you that means you are middle class
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Feb 5, 2016 00:35
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Count Roland posted:So, what does make a person or household middle class? Or low, or high? A personal income between 100k to 220k, legislatively speaking.
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Excuse me, TPP will reduce tariffs and quotas on Canadian beef and whiskey. Increased pharmaceutical prices are a small (ok fairly large) price to pay.Ikantski posted:A personal income between 100k to 220k, legislatively speaking. You are joking, ha ha.
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Ikantski posted:A personal income between 100k to 220k, legislatively speaking. Can you explain?
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Count Roland posted:Can you explain? It's about a joke about the Liberals. Anyway I think the biggest factor is probably what a person's parents' income was. Rural vs urban. Education, and the value the person places on it. Whether or not a person is aware of the world beyond their immediate surroundings. I dunno I'm just trying to identify the things I've noticed from working as management in some pretty dead end jobs. There were the college students there for a stay, but then there were the others who legit didn't think they deserved better. There were a lot of people like that. Its an attitude totally at odds with what I saw growing up. e: and also the other way with people who just can't understand how not having money could impact your behaviour or attitude towards life. That's why I say your parents / upbringing are probably the defining thing.
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Count Roland posted:Can you explain? It's Ikantski, the joke is always the Liberals.
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Count Roland posted:Can you explain? People earning 100-220k are the ones who will chiefly benefit from the promised "middle class tax cut"
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Ikantski posted:A personal income between 100k to 220k, legislatively speaking. Wait, that income for a single person is middle class?!
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Cultural Imperial posted:Let us begin a new era of international isolationism. We don't need anyone because we're Canada! Burn the tpp!!! Swing and a miss. I'm concerned that the TPP basically makes Canada a signatory to the really bad multilateral IP treaties that others have signed onto.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Wait, that income for a single person is middle class?! Yeah, that seems about right for a household.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Wait, that income for a single person is middle class?! Legally, yes. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n15/15-086-eng.asp
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CLAM DOWN posted:Wait, that income for a single person is middle class?! Upper class don't have to work and derive their income from investment income. Middle class have large professional salaries which allow them to consume without want and provide a life with security of all forms to a four member household (note this used to be possible with a much lower income). Lower/working class are dependent on income for transient security and make trade-offs in terms of consumption. They do not have the power to negotiate wages in exchange for labour due to their common skills and debt-loads acting as financial shackles. Because there's a lot of privilege and class tied up with these definitions the easiest way to tell if you are lower/working class or above is whether or not you have/had student loans.
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Ikantski posted:Legally, yes. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n15/15-086-eng.asp According to that, the brackets that got the cut were: $45,282 - $90,563 $90,563 - $140,388 So I'm not sure where the "100k to 220k" came from
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CLAM DOWN posted:According to that, the brackets that got the cut were:
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cowofwar posted:Upper class don't have to work and derive their income from investment income. Bingo. A lot of uninformed people look at $80k+ and think "WELL THOSE PEOPLE ARE RICH" -- they're not really, they're the dwindling remnants of the large(r) middle class that the 20th century had, and the sticker shock is largely a combination of inflation and of productivity spiking hugely but salaries not going up to match. The majority of people are not middle class, they're lower class but refuse to confront reality and admit it. The Rich aren't the doctors or engineers or business owners pulling low six figures (and most of those people don't even qualify as 1%!), these people are middle class with a few sneaking into the very bottom end of the upper class, the Rich are the people with amounts of money that 99% (and sometimes 99.9%) of us can't even comprehend.
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Yea I get like a $500 a year tax cut, a fraction of a percent of my income. Probably cancelled out by rising food and good prices. That's what I call #RealChange for the #MiddleClass.
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150k-200k in family income is pretty wealthy all things said and you would do yourself a disservice to only think of the most bougie people as the only rich there is. A majority of people in Canada don't know what it's like to forget when payday is, middle class inclusive.
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Kafka Esq. posted:Swing and a miss. Michael Geist has been writing about this daily for weeks and he makes it sound pretty awful.
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