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Who will win the debate?
Former Hedge Fund Manager and Corporate Raider, Bernard Sanders
Inexperienced Hippie and Lifelong Pacifist, Hillary Rodham
The Ghost of Martin O'Malley
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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
we're zooming in, hold on to your butts

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blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

This Bernie answer right now is why I won't vote for him. He just doesn't know what he is talking about.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Joementum posted:

I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.

What's wrong with campaign finance reform?

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



JesusSinfulHands posted:

Despite having a supermajority the Democrats couldn't even get a public option in Obamacare basically because Joe Lieberman is a jerk. Democrats are not going to get 60 senators again for quite some time, so how is single-payer going to happen anytime soon?

Getting voters to come out and replace them and hope to god gerrymandering goes away

(lol at the last one ever happening)

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Uh Bernie you don't just get to randomly overturn things as the SCOTUS...

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
do people actually think campaign finance reform would stop companies from keeping politicians indebted to them?

like actual, otherwise rational human beings?

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Joementum posted:

I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.

:eyepop:

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
"mitch, stop representing the billionaire class"

i don't think he will Bernie

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Arkane posted:

half a million new solar panels is like virtually nothing

500,000 casio calculators

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
oops

:smug:

:smug:

:smug:

OrangeKing
Dec 5, 2002

They do play in October!
Solid Rick Perry reference

VR Native American
May 1, 2009
Gun Saliva

blue squares posted:

This Bernie answer right now is why I won't vote for him. He just doesn't know what he is talking about.

That in order to have a better government people must participate?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Logikv9 posted:

What's wrong with campaign finance reform?

It's an easy 'this is a problem' thing to shout but fixing the problem is way more complex

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Bad Caller posted:

Obama had the bully pulpit, people wanted single payer. If blue dog democrats didn't follow the line, it would have looked bad on them.

Instead we have this weird system that can easily be repealed or changed and most people don't even want.

Yay.

Blue dogs stabbed so many holes in the ACA it'll never get patched up properly, much less expanded.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Joementum posted:

I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.
Another clue to the mystery of Joementum's identity!!!

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
a little bit of a threat of revolutionary violence right there, senator sanders

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



mormonpartyboat posted:

do people actually think campaign finance reform would stop companies from keeping politicians indebted to them?

like actual, otherwise rational human beings?

It does if you audit people's income and see they get large speaking fees or whatever from companies, and try to go into voucher systems like Seattle is doing so you can have all candidates be grassroots.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Hillary just cited a compliment she received from Kissinger :stare:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

VR Native American posted:

That in order to have a better government people must participate?

He thinks you appoint a new justice on the SCOTUS and they just say "WE OVERTURNING THIS poo poo NOW"

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
a Kissinger endorsement

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.

are you a lobbyist or something?

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
I was so honored when a ghoulish war criminal said I did a good job

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Hillary just cited a compliment she received from Kissinger :stare:

Yeah, uhhhhh maybe not the wisest name drop.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

VR Native American posted:

That in order to have a better government people must participate?

He doesn't know what the gently caress he is talking about

SirKibbles
Feb 27, 2011

I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash. :10bux:
Come on Bernie CIA

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Oh great, Hillary talking about austerity

lmao Kissinger

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Logikv9 posted:

What's wrong with campaign finance reform?

It's a waste of time. Money will always find a way.

I support a public finance system that provides a floor of support to ensure that both parties can run a candidate in each district, but the rest is a wash.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Not a Step posted:

Blue dogs stabbed so many holes in the ACA it'll never get patched up properly, much less expanded.

I would have been much happier with a single payer punched with a bunch of holes than what we have now.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Henry Kissinger fuckin lol

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Bad Caller posted:

It does if you audit people's income and see they get large speaking fees or whatever from companies, and try to go into voucher systems like Seattle is doing so you can have all candidates be grassroots.

HAHAHAHAHA

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

walgreenslatino posted:

I was so honored when a ghoulish war criminal said I did a good job

I mean I would be....

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Can you imagine how sad it would be if Sanders somehow became President?

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

:siren: Henry Kissinger :siren:

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

"do you want to get rid of anything"

"no, i want to take a look at what doesn't work and get rid of it"

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Logikv9 posted:

What's wrong with campaign finance reform?

look at boeing holding the wichita plant over congress during the kc-x bidding process and how that was a significant factor in them winning the contract. that has fuckall to do with campaign finance, but that kind of lever is still one of political power

Rynn
Jul 23, 2003

I don't understand how this millions of people revolution thing is going to happen. He never gives any plan on how he's going to do this other than "It'll happen because I say so". It's really making me mad hearing him say this without details.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







im proud of this compiment from noted war criminal henry kissinger

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

I agree with Bernie on basically every domestic issue... except campaign finance reform.

Seriously, I want you to answer this question honestly:

Are you secretly John Dickerson?

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here
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C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Joementum posted:

It's a waste of time. Money will always find a way.

I support a public finance system that provides a floor of support to ensure that both parties can run a candidate in each district, but the rest is a wash.

So we should just go "eh let them do it?"

That's like saying just keep letting white collar crime walk because "it's going to happen anyways"

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