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Birb Katter posted:Idris Elba in drag Now that's just full on pornography.
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Feb 5, 2016 08:07
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Korgan posted:My facebook friends are generally alright. They got better after I removed this guy today. I have to admit I've always wondered if anyone actually believed these classic stdh.txt stories or if they just shared them either as a joke or because they are trying to convince themselves of it.
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Feb 5, 2016 08:26
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Does the CDC releasing this cute little infographic online count? Women drinking is the cause of violence against women! I also had no idea my beer was going to give me an STD.
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Feb 5, 2016 08:27
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Making poor choices while drunk can lead to those so...
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Gonorrhea in a glass, chlamydia in a can.
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Shared by Abolish the IRS - Because Trump ALSO wants to dodge taxes.
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Feb 5, 2016 08:49
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I love how ridiculous these things are. Like, if you have a glass of wine with dinner each night and a couple of beers on the weekend, that's more than your 8 drinks a week. If you have three beers in three hours? That's over four standard drinks and you're binge drinking. Oh, and "might be pregnant"? So I guess if you're a woman who's had sex with a man recently, no drinks for you. You never know!
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Feb 5, 2016 08:57
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Tiggum posted:Oh, and "might be pregnant"? So I guess if you're a woman who's had sex with a man recently, no drinks for you. You never know! That's actually their position: if you aren't on birth control, don't drink. Never mind that there is no evidence that sub-binge drinking actually has any effect on fetuses, of course.
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Picnic Princess posted:Gonorrhea in a glass, chlamydia in a can. You mean Chlamyto Cocktail?
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Feb 5, 2016 09:40
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So why isn't it ok to tell people to not drink too much
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The Saddest Rhino posted:So why isn't it ok to tell people to not drink too much Seriously. How did we go from "don't drink too much" to "they're telling us not to drink at all and telling women not to have sex!!!".
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Feb 5, 2016 10:40
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poptart_fairy posted:Seriously. How did we go from "don't drink too much" to "they're telling us not to drink at all and telling women not to have sex!!!". Really? You can't see the link between don't drink more than 8 standard drinks a week or you'll get an STD and then saying women shouldn't drink or they'll get an STD?
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Feb 5, 2016 10:47
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Drinking too much can lead to people making silly decisions. Taking that asTiggum posted:I love how ridiculous these things are. Like, if you have a glass of wine with dinner each night and a couple of beers on the weekend, that's more than your 8 drinks a week. If you have three beers in three hours? That's over four standard drinks and you're binge drinking. Oh, and "might be pregnant"? So I guess if you're a woman who's had sex with a man recently, no drinks for you. You never know! is going a bit mad. They're general precautionary things, not strict ADHERE AT ALL TIMES BEEP BOOP restriction limits you weirdo.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:01
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The new CDC 'rule' is interesting. Yeah, not drinking all the time while pregnant seems like a non brainer. I can however see how it pissed and/or confused people. If you search for it, you will get the same headline : CDC: Young women should avoid alcohol unless using birth control For example : http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/02/cdc-urges-young-women-avoid-all-alcohol-unless-theyre-using-contraception/79701890/ Before that, having a drink occasionally while pregnant was not anything significant. Suddenly, ladies should be on birth control before drinking, just in case. From the article : quote:Alcohol use during pregnancy "can cause lasting physical, behavioral and intellectual disabilities that can last for a child’s lifetime," according to the CDC. These disabilities, known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders, affect up to one in 20 school children, according to the CDC. Again, from the article quote:Babies with fetal alcohol syndrome are more likely to be born small and to develop problems of the heart, kidney and brain, according to the CDC. Damage to the brain can lead to low IQ and learning disabilities, attention problems, hyperactivity, poor reasoning and judgement, as well as poor ability to communicate in social situations. All of these problems can lead to mental illness, substance abuse and other lifelong problems So, to tell all women to be on birth control if they want to drink may seem like overeacting and paternalistic.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:16
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poptart_fairy posted:Drinking too much can lead to people making silly decisions. What silly decisions do you think a person is likely to make if they have a glass of wine with dinner? Or *GASP* three beers in an afternoon!? I wasn't saying that you can drink as much as you want and be fine, I'm saying the amounts they specify in their guidelines are absurdly low.
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Tiggum posted:What silly decisions do you think a person is likely to make if they have a glass of wine with dinner? Or *GASP* three beers in an afternoon!? I wasn't saying that you can drink as much as you want and be fine, I'm saying the amounts they specify in their guidelines are absurdly low. poptart_fairy posted:They're general precautionary things, not strict ADHERE AT ALL TIMES BEEP BOOP restriction limits you weirdo.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:36
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poptart_fairy, the CDC is saying this:quote:http://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/fasd/ says :
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OK, but Tiggum is going mental over the posted image. This is why context helps guys, rather than just getting angry about a facebook image by itself.
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Feb 5, 2016 12:14
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Tiggum posted:What silly decisions do you think a person is likely to make if they have a glass of wine with dinner? Or *GASP* three beers in an afternoon!? I wasn't saying that you can drink as much as you want and be fine, I'm saying the amounts they specify in their guidelines are absurdly low. People have very different alcohol tolerance levels and they went for the lowest end. That doesn't seem absurd?
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Birb Katter posted:I care nothing for the bond franchise but would pay to watch a lady bond just so they made more for the tears it would bring. Agreed. In the meantime we have Spy, which is awesome.
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Doesn't FAS happen later in the pregnancy? If I'm a young lady and I get pregnant one night after doing keg stands, none of that booze is passing the blood/brain barrier of my baby because my baby doesn't yet have a brain or even a wired connection to the mother. I sort of get the rationale if the average woman doesn't find out she's pregnant until 4-5 weeks afterwards. But it's phrased horribly. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 12:46 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 12:39
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I took it as "we know alcohol affects birth. so we recommend being on the safe side and not drinking if you are pregnant"
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Krispy Kareem posted:Doesn't FAS happen later in the pregnancy? If I'm a young lady and I get pregnant one night after doing keg stands, none of that booze is passing the blood/brain barrier of my baby because my baby doesn't yet have a brain or even a wired connection to the mother. There's inconclusive evidence both ways. And they don't say people have different tolerances, the CDC says that for women, more than 8 drinks a week ever is alcoholic behavior. It doesn't mention that getting pregnant late in life can raise the risk for Down's Syndrome and developmental disabilities. It doesn't mention that many countries without these recommendations do not have widespread FASD issues and that things like stress or environmental pollution (Hi Flint!) can cause as much or more damage to a fetus as a few drinks during a pregnancy. This is the latest in the CDC's recommendations that puts women boldface at the top of the report and then addresses them like walking baby makers. Ten years ago they said women who are of childbearing age should consider themselves "pre-pregnant" and be taking pregnancy vitamins and folic acid. There is so much that contributes to the relatively high infant mortality rate in the US but the CDC refuses to acknowledge that much of that comes from low access to healthcare, income inequality and pollution and instead questions what choices women can make.
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poptart_fairy posted:OK, but Tiggum is going mental over the posted image. I said it was "ridiculous" and "absurd". I don't know what your definition of "going mental" is, but it seems you have a much lower threshold for what counts than I do. 
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Feb 5, 2016 13:25
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If booze can lead to poor decisions and make you more likely to get knocked up or contract an STD? They need to put death on that list too, with drunk driving and all. Hell lets get inclusive and add drunk dialing and 2am Amazon orders you might regret. I get their intent, but I feel that they went the wrong way with the Not Pregnant list of possible complications.
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Feb 5, 2016 13:31
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Eponine posted:There is so much that contributes to the relatively high infant mortality rate in the US but the CDC refuses to acknowledge that much of that comes from low access to healthcare, income inequality and pollution and instead questions what choices women can make. CDC only offers advice within their purview. They're scum Scathach posted:Does the CDC releasing this cute little infographic online count? The extent to which you've misread this says a lot about you.
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Indolent Bastard posted:If booze can lead to poor decisions and make you more likely to get knocked up or contract an STD? They need to put death on that list too, with drunk driving and all. Hell lets get inclusive and add drunk dialing and 2am Amazon orders you might regret. uh, drunk driving has quite a few campaigns against it already?
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Feb 5, 2016 13:39
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FAROOQ posted:CDC only offers advice within their purview. They're scum Pretty sure advocating for access to healthcare for every citizen fits nicely into the CDC's to-do list. As is identifying environmental vectors for disease.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Laverne Cox as bond. :agree: I want to dance in the rain of tears this would cause.
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Six-Of-Hearts posted::agree: Same. The number of outraged FB posts and YouTube spitting blood rants it would generate could fill its own megathread. 
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Eponine posted:Pretty sure advocating for access to healthcare for every citizen fits nicely into the CDC's to-do list. As is identifying environmental vectors for disease. They do both of those thing you utter loving idiot
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Laverne Cox as bond. I'd pay $12.50 to see this and I'd buy a jumbo popcorn and soda, too, just to support the endeavor in whatever small ways I could
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Feb 5, 2016 15:08
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No, it would be good for the CDC to give more comprehensive advice to women:quote:
Those seem like equally actionable recommendations.
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Feb 5, 2016 15:22
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Scathach posted:Does the CDC releasing this cute little infographic online count? We could argue all day long about whether or not pregnant women can drink. My issue with this official CDC infographic is the part that pertains to all women. A majority of those things pertain to men as well. Hell, it takes two to make a baby, so "unintended pregnancy" is a risk for men as well; it's just a woman's problem because we all decided that raising babies is women's work that men sometimes get involved in. So why not just an infographic about pregnant women? If the message is "don't drink unless you are on birth control" then that right hand side is pointless; being on birth control doesn't magically protect you from esophageal cancer or violence.
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Feb 5, 2016 15:25
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I feel like then people would complain that it sends the message that only pregnant women have risks associated with drinking
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Arctic Baldwin posted:I feel like then people would complain that it sends the message that only pregnant women have risks associated with drinking STOP TELLING WOMEN WHAT TO DO #KONY2012
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If there's also an infographic for men about the risks of alcohol intake that also includes violence, STDs and causing unwanted pregnancy then the CDC graphic is fine. If not, maybe then you guys will see why some people are taking issue with it.
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poptart_fairy posted:uh, drunk driving has quite a few campaigns against it already? So do STDs, yet there they are.
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I think it's pretty clear that the infographic isn't great based on the fact that people can get such wildly different messages from it. It's kind of obviously failed to communicate whatever it was trying to communicate if so many people can't agree on the intended message.
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