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Everyone but Jrode will receive a 6-month probation for our bad-faith arguments, unfunny jokes, and incorrect opinions about TNG, as is only fair.
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I'm so loving hungry guys, is the more liberty choice of delivery pizza or wings?
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I'm so loving hungry guys, is the more liberty choice of delivery pizza or wings? Are you planning on tipping the driver? *leaps clear of thread*
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Caros posted:... I'm beginning to worry about what will happen when one of the mods actually looks into this thread. *American Libertarianism at least. Who knows about Ferengi Libertarianism.
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I'm so loving hungry guys, is the more liberty choice of delivery pizza or wings? Pizza but only if you order an extra large and consume it by yourself while watching TNG
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QuarkJets posted:Pizza but only if you order an extra large and consume it by yourself while watching TNG 
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Caros posted:... I'm beginning to worry about what will happen when one of the mods actually looks into this thread. This thread wasn't meant to contain only JRod. You know this as well as the rest of us.
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Ferengi libertarianism would probably be communism.
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I'm so loving hungry guys, is the more liberty choice of delivery pizza or wings? Only one of these two things is the official foodstuff of the one true free currency, Bitcoin
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Who What Now posted:For years and years I thought Joss Whedon and Wil Wheaton were the same person because their last names were so similar. Wait, which one's the nerd icon who sells themselves as a paragon of progressiveness, but is incredibly thin-skinned when it comes to criticism and blames everyone but themselves for their failures?
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Okay realtalk now, is Harry Potter more libertarian than Lord of the Rings, or less? Voldemort is basically a John Galt figure trying to crush the state, and he almost succeeds if not for the NAP-violating ivory tower statists at Hogwarts. Sauron is basically just a dude trying to recover his stolen jewelry and he only sends out an army when some statists show up to challenge his property rights. Between the two I feel like LOTR is probably more representative of libertarian society, ergo ipso facto it's the better series
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QuarkJets posted:Okay realtalk now, is Harry Potter more libertarian than Lord of the Rings, or less? Voldemort is basically a John Galt figure trying to crush the state, and he almost succeeds if not for the NAP-violating ivory tower statists at Hogwarts. Sauron is basically just a dude trying to recover his stolen jewelry and he only sends out an army when some statists show up to challenge his property rights. Between the two I feel like LOTR is probably more representative of libertarian society, ergo ipso facto it's the better series If you want to I guess you could view Sauron as being either a very good libertarian by taking his power as a Maiar (granted by the celestial state) and using it to attempt to destroy said state, or possibly as the agent of Morgoth he is perhaps the instrument of statist aggression being as Melkor was the most powerful Ainur. Sauron's attempt to subjugate the industry of Saruman by requiring him to be a servant despite Saruman clearly being the greater innovator, as well as his use of Celebrimbor's craftsmanship through deception to create the rings of power suggests that he is truly the embodiment of the parasitic andd oppressive State. On the other hand hobbits are obviously workshy drug addled scroungers who rely on the protection of more powerful civilisations and offer nothing of value in return, and the Fellowship itself is a roving band of hobos who bum supplies off everyone they encounter so it's really a very morally grey piece with no clear good or bad characters.
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OwlFancier posted:Ferengi libertarianism would probably be communism. The best part of Star Trek Online was a hidden computer terminal that described how Karl Marx was widely read by Romulan dissidents. I would watch a Star Trek episode about Romulan communist partisans.
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Wolfsheim posted:Voyager is a pretty okay show so far  Speaking of LOTR didn't some Russian guy write some fan fiction where the story is really a giant conspiracy by Gandalf to stop the orc proletariat from being able to realize its potential?
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I'm so loving hungry guys, is the more liberty choice of delivery pizza or wings? Order pizza from one place and wings from another and leave enough money for one on the door step. The driver who kills the other earns your business.
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:Wait, which one's the nerd icon who sells themselves as a paragon of progressiveness, but is incredibly thin-skinned when it comes to criticism and blames everyone but themselves for their failures? All of them? You're on SA so you know how nerds work.
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Forcibly annex the pizza shop, take all of the pizza, and inform them which DRO they can take their complaint up with.
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The best science fiction series is MST3K. 
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Muscle Tracer posted:Everyone but Jrode will receive a 6-month probation for our bad-faith arguments, unfunny jokes, and incorrect opinions about TNG, as is only fair. I think instead, if one is making a libertarian argument, they should be forced to cite an appropriate rule of acquisition.
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Libertarians absolutely LOVE Harry Potter, no joke. Libertarians read how the Ministry of Magic helps facilitate Voldemort's rise through incompetent and corrupt governance and say "Yeah, that's what liberal government does, this is very explicitly a libertarian text written by a libertarian. Rowling's experience being on welfare clearly soured her on government!" J.K. Rowling posted:I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Only one of these two things is the official foodstuff of the one true free currency, Bitcoin
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mojo1701a posted:I think instead, if one is making a libertarian argument, they should be forced to cite an appropriate rule of acquisition. my name is muscle tracer and i approve of this message
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OwlFancier posted:If you want to I guess you could view Sauron as being either a very good libertarian by taking his power as a Maiar (granted by the celestial state) and using it to attempt to destroy said state, or possibly as the agent of Morgoth he is perhaps the instrument of statist aggression being as Melkor was the most powerful Ainur. Sauron's attempt to subjugate the industry of Saruman by requiring him to be a servant despite Saruman clearly being the greater innovator, as well as his use of Celebrimbor's craftsmanship through deception to create the rings of power suggests that he is truly the embodiment of the parasitic andd oppressive State. Balderdash! Melkor was the true rugged individualist who refused the forced joinder of Eru the high god in order to make his own song and creation, rather than contribute to some communal, socialistic effort. And in typical statist manner, he was aggressed against by cronyist Valar and their pet parasites, the elves.
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The Larch posted:The best science fiction series is MST3K. That's a documentary, doesn't count
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paragon1 posted:My favorite story about Leverage is them toning down the bad guys in the show from the real people they based them off of because audiences wouldn't believe anyone could be as evil as the villains real world counterparts actually were.  Do tell. The more details, the better.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Do people seriously not know that genre itself is a meaningless distinction perpetuated by marketing departments and those desperately empty husks searching for a peg to hang their identity on? "Marketing" and "husks" in the space of a single sentence, well done.
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Sephyr posted:Balderdash! Melkor was the true rugged individualist who refused the forced joinder of Eru the high god in order to make his own song and creation, rather than contribute to some communal, socialistic effort. Is it still considered libertarianism if one seeks freedom by forcing others to subjugate to his will and order?
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SedanChair posted:"Marketing" and "husks" in the space of a single sentence, well done. We are born empty. Only through the grace of marketing can we find meaning and personal preferences.
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mojo1701a posted:Is it still considered libertarianism if one seeks freedom by forcing others to subjugate to his will and order? Melkor -literally- mingled his labor with the land at the start of all creation. Everyone else is a squatter and are free to move to anther universe if they cannot recognise his freedom/rights.
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If you like sticking your dick in the earth then I don't think you can do much better than singing it into existence it's true.
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Let us consult the oracle!Tolkein Vs. Power posted:Hardcore environmentalists have tried to enlist Mr. Tolkien among them, focusing on Tolkien's candid love for nature, for example. But if loving nature necessarily implies you are an environmentalist, people like Ludwig von Mises should also have been very sympathetic toward the Green movement. Indeed, as Justin Raimondo points out, his point wasn't to bash industry or capitalism; it was to illustrate that evil is expansionist and projects itself even on the landscape. Hence bad environmental aesthetics are a reflection of bad rulers, which is to say, the use of power. I also found this other... thing about Atlas Shrugged and LotR but I am hungry and will leave it to others to quote-mine.
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mojo1701a posted:I think instead, if one is making a libertarian argument, they should be forced to cite an appropriate rule of acquisition. Oh God, and that was from memory, too.
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Nolanar posted:Let us consult the oracle! As John Rogers said: quote:There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
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Halloween Jack posted:Customers are like gree worms; succulent, but sometimes they bite back. Don't worry about it. Remember: dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack. Rule of Acquisition #109. (I looked up the number, that's all).
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The Larch posted:The best science fiction series is MST3K. 
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