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Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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JerikTelorian posted:

Has anyone reached a point in the game yet where it says what happened with Dr. Vahlen? I know Shen died at some unspoken pre-game point and his daughter is Head Engineer, but I am seriously itching to know what happened to The Woman Herself.

I'm betting she was the one to rat you out and was converted into that weird female electric ghost thing that shows up after you escape at the start.

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barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof
If you don't extract by the timer you lose all your dudes. Cool. Can't wait for the balance mods to come out.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Extracting a VIP, ran up next to some cover. Discovered I could open the cover, got an advanced stock. gently caress yeah.

On the other hand, now I have to go obsessive looking for literal loving treasure chests because I am incapable of leaving secrets undiscovered.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED


This is a useful post, and seems to match with what I've been figuring out on my own. I didn't know that you can let the meter max out and still have two weeks of time to spare, but I can't really abuse that in that way since I have one facility in an area I have easy access to, but the other one I know of is in loving New Arctic which is as far away from my HQ as is possible (there's no way to fly across the Bering Strait, apparently).

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


i dont know what i love more, the timers making this game fun or the internet's reaction to the timers :qq:

also EXO suits are really good on grenadiers

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club
Hmm. Dark event to add 2 pips to the Avatar timer.

...but it's already one pip away. I sure hope that doesn't instakill me.

edit: Operation Swamp Face.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

KyloWinter posted:

If you don't extract by the timer you lose all your dudes. Cool. Can't wait for the balance mods to come out.

Extracting is half the mission, you can't just ignore the timer

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Ahahahah, got Lightning Reflexes on promotion for my Blademaster Ranger. I was going to give him Shadowstep, but now that Lightning Reflexes makes one miss and actually triggers to draw shots away from my other guys, he's getting Shadowstrike to open up my ambushes.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Extracting is half the mission, you can't just ignore the timer

I like how Bradford's like "oh no scanners going to have to find somewhere else to extract" like there is any chance this mission will be completed stealthily.

Also based on random dialogue Bradford's the one flying the Avenger. :v:

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Extracting is half the mission, you can't just ignore the timer

I didn't even see it until 3 turns in. The whole balance of the game feels off though coming from long war.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

LightWarden posted:

There's a base cost that's multiplied by the number of regions away from a radio tower (which is why putting up towers next to your expansion areas is always a good idea)

How do you do this part again?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Hey is extracting a mission loss if you've completed the main objective? It seemed to be in one of the tutorial missions but I assumed that was tutorial stuff.

Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

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Redfont is my hero.
Has anyone figured out how to view the replays that are supposed to be in each save file?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
If the objective is to kill all enemies, yes. Those ones are generally the ones where your objective is to disarm a bomb or something but you still need to actually, you know, get the thing you came for.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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If you retrain soldiers, will they lose their bonus traits? If they had no bonus traits from not having Advanced Warfare when you promoted them, will they then get them?

Debating if I should send my Alpha team people back to POD SCHOOL.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

DreamShipWrecked posted:

Extracting is half the mission, you can't just ignore the timer

Yeah. Honestly playing this like you do the last game where you have a six man "A Team" and a bunch of rookies you haven't laid of yet just won't work. You have to be aggressively moving towards those objectives any time you aren't actively shooting. And when I say "Aggressive" I mean overwatching every turn isn't going to work. My first move is generally to sprint my shotgun wielding angel of death forward as far as she can go into at least light cover. If she's clear the rest of the squad joins. If she sees a pod the rest of the squad envelops the pod as much as possible without setting them off.

You are absolutely going to take wounds and will need a rotating stock of soldiers that can go on the next mission when it crops up. Literally the only missions you can be an overwatch fairy on are the ones without timers (Also if you can rescue six civies early in a terror mission or whatever the gently caress they are called).

Also I need someone to mod in golf clubs, hockey sticks, and cricket bats as melee weapons. The hockey mask is already there. Casey Jones must live.

Turtle Watch
Jul 30, 2010

by Games Forum
Ok, I feel very dumb, but where do you find the dev mod toolkit you can make mods with? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

edit: found it.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

For missions with a pre-set extract like VIP rescues, I can't set up my own extract zone, right?

I just did my first Avatar facility post-blacksite and it was easy going since there's no timer and you can place your own EZ.

ulmont posted:

How do you do this part again?

When you mouse over an area you've contacted there'll be a logo for a radio tower. Click that, pay the supply cost, and fly Avenger to the new icon that pops up to progress the timer for it until it's done.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice
Anyone else had to deal with the game not even launching? I can bring up the launcher from Steam (why does it even need this), and after I click play the launcher freezes and nothing else happens, no error message or anything.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

ugh, of course you can't melee mutons. that would be too fun

gently caress you jake

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

KyloWinter posted:

The whole balance of the game feels off though coming from long war.

The Firaxis devs liked Long War, gave it much praise, even nabbed some ideas from Long War. But this is not Xcom: Long War 2.

If this game had a subtitle it would be "gently caress Your Cautious Play, Beaglerush"


edit: or maybe "Xcom 2: I heard you hate Bomb Missions? Now every mission is a Bomb Mission!"

Klyith fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 5, 2016

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Klyith posted:

The Firaxis devs liked Long War, gave it much praise, even nabbed some ideas from Long War. But this is not Xcom: Long War 2.

If this game had a subtitle it would be "gently caress Your Cautious Play, Beaglerush"

Sub-Sub title: "And you too, Jadestar" going by his stream.

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!

ulmont posted:

How do you do this part again?

Your HQ starting region always has a tower (well, several towers), so when you've expanded into a new region after that there's an icon of a tower in the region. Click on icon, spend supplies and time to build a relay tower in the region, boosting regional income and making it cheaper to expand from that region. You don't have to put up towers in every single region especially at lower difficulties if there's only one region connecting to it, but it helps.

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!

Grapplejack posted:

ugh, of course you can't melee mutons. that would be too fun

gently caress you jake

Well, it's like a 50% chance of countering, and I think the skill is disabled if they're disoriented or on fire.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

man sectopods are something special

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
How do you make enemies panic? I've gotten several of the "reduce enemy will by 50%" hacks, but I have yet to see an enemy break.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
I'm probably going to restart my game from scratch when I get home. I made some pretty big blunders in the strategic map/build and research orders and when I went to bed I could feel my campaign grinding to a halt.

Unless someone can tell me: Is there a decent way to farm up intel? I require 50 to move to the next black site continent and welp.

Broken Cog posted:

How do you make enemies panic? I've gotten several of the "reduce enemy will by 50%" hacks, but I have yet to see an enemy break.

You probably won't. But I think it also reduces their ability to deal with psi poo poo.

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


Broken Cog posted:

How do you make enemies panic? I've gotten several of the "reduce enemy will by 50%" hacks, but I have yet to see an enemy break.

Psychic powers. That all that is useful for.

^Scan in your base.^

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Alkydere posted:

Sub-Sub title: "And you too, Jadestar" going by his stream.

lmao so that's what a stun lancer is.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I'm not liking rangers. The sword is funny but I just wish I had run and gun instead.

RIP Mister Bones, died because our dull blades are not as good as ADVENT stun sticks

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Hacked turrets are great. They fire twice in a turn, transform a killing field into your personal playground.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Internet Kraken posted:

I'm not liking rangers. The sword is funny but I just wish I had run and gun instead.

Left tree has run and gun.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


I was not getting hyped at all with the pre battle music compared to XCOM 1

So then I went and looked and realized they dropped Michael Mccann :saddowns:

GDI Firaxis. No controller support, now this. Why u h8 me.

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!

Rhymenoserous posted:

I'm probably going to restart my game from scratch when I get home. I made some pretty big blunders in the strategic map/build and research orders and when I went to bed I could feel my campaign grinding to a halt.

Unless someone can tell me: Is there a decent way to farm up intel? I require 50 to move to the next black site continent and welp.

Missions are the big one, especially the resistance ones, though there are Guerrilla Ops missions that can potentially give Intel. Otherwise there's random rewards of intel from hacking ADVENT towers and mission objectives, researching ADVENT datapads or alien data caches, scanning a site on the world map or just sitting at HQ and scanning for a week.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Speedball posted:

Hacked turrets are great. They fire twice in a turn, transform a killing field into your personal playground.

Yeah gremlins seem insanely useful for everything. You can heal and aid protocol in the same turn!

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Internet Kraken posted:

I'm not liking rangers. The sword is funny but I just wish I had run and gun instead.

RIP Mister Bones, died because our dull blades are not as good as ADVENT stun sticks

dont worry, you get run and gun eventually and its still really good

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

victrix posted:

I was not getting hyped at all with the pre battle music compared to XCOM 1

So then I went and looked and realized they dropped Michael Mccann :saddowns:

GDI Firaxis. No controller support, now this. Why u h8 me.

Deployment music is fine, some of the battle themes are actually better than in XCOM1 and I love McCann's game scores.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

RBA Starblade posted:

Yeah gremlins seem insanely useful for everything. You can heal and aid protocol in the same turn!

And Aid Protocol is a great counter to stun lancers. Because it increases the target's DODGE chance as well as their cover defense. I've saved my ranger from a stun lancer several times by putting Aid Protocol on her.

Calipark
Feb 1, 2008

That's cool.
My Corgi mod just got press http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xcom-2-mod-adds-a-puppy-gun/1100-6434552/

Why.

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Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Just did the blacksite mission (Commander difficulty). It was a heroic disaster. Deployed 2 grenadiers, 1 sharpshooter, 1 specialist and 1 ranger. Lost one grenadier due to bad luck in the first engagement which nearly took out 2 pods in one turn of shooting, but one stun lancer got through and critted my squaddie grenadier to death before receiving a dose of shotgun to the face in the next turn. Then things continued pretty well after that, avoided the turret, dealt with the android pod without casualties, was then caught wrongfooted by a pod containing a viper that appeared behind me (stupid! stupid! stupid!) which ended my other grenadier and the specialist. I then thought I had only the reinforcements left but my 2 remaining troopers before entering the room with the vial had to deal with a pod of ADVENT troopers before picking it up. After picking up the vial my ranger was knocked unconcious by a stun lancer who appeared as part of a reinforcement drop, this left my sharpshooter to deal with 3 ADVENT (including an officer) by himself, which by some miracle he did, pistols seem to have pretty good accuracy at close range even if enemies are in cover, and return fire also gave good return on investment. After they were down I was just able to pick up the ranger with the sharpshooter and reach the extraction area while surronded by the next reinforcement pod.

Think the sharpshooter bagged close to 10 enemies during this mission and 3 of those while on his own.

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