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Geirskogul posted:Well, like 1/8th the US population lives in California, so there may be some sample size bias. I'm just pointing out that there's really no better places. It's just what you make of it.
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Michigan is full of shitbird crazy right wing fuckos that used to vote for democratic candidates because of the unions but once Obama ran they all flocked to Mitt because "we don't want no ni**er in the White House it's called the White House for a reason" (-literally something a Facebook friend's father said on his status shortly before I deleted him) Thank god we have a lot of left wing voters in Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Troy because otherwise Mitt may have won
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Whenever people like to complain about burger flippers making $15/hr like they do, like this EMT kid I know, I have to remind them that they are being raped on their wages too.
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Feb 6, 2016 20:33
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1937 Chevy with suicide doors for sale down the road. Paint's so-so, interior's nice. He had erased a 4-digit asking price and wrote OBO. I want to drive it.
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Tusen Takk posted:Michigan is full of shitbird crazy right wing fuckos that used to vote for democratic candidates because of the unions but once Obama ran they all flocked to Mitt because "we don't want no ni**er in the White House it's called the White House for a reason" (-literally something a Facebook friend's father said on his status shortly before I deleted him) I visited my sister in Michigan once. We went to some party, and I had no less than five people tell me the south was going to rise again, because I was wearing a longhorns hat. Fuuuuck that state.
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iwentdoodie posted:As dumb as FL is, I've met more batshit loony right wing people in CA than I ever did in TX or FL. In all honesty, we have bat poo poo insane people on both sides here. If you are in the central valley, bat poo poo right wing. If you're in the bay area/socal you run into batshit left wing. There are certain pockets of batshit right wing in bay/socal but you encounter it in more affluent areas.
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Feb 6, 2016 21:00
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Michigan is the most racist place i have ever lived. Multiple thriving cities were gutted by their only real industry picking up and leaving overnight, spiraling into poverty and white-flight. Said fleeing white people then blame the entire thing on black people because they are obviously the reason the US auto industry hosed Flint/Detroit/etc. into the ground. Tea-party shitheads who vote red despite guzzling auto union dick have the nerve to bitch about Obama, despite him bailing their failing industry out. Then they have their pals clock them in at the plant for a week straight so they can go play golf and drink beers instead of working. But remember, black people are lazy and Detroit is their fault. The economic/racial segregation around Detroit is very stark. The line between Grosse Point and Detroit is fascinating, I have lived here 7 years and I still can't get over it.
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Ferremit posted:Oh gently caress off... You get health care and a mostly livable wage. I live in Alabama. I'd take the tradeoff.
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Feb 6, 2016 21:24
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keykey posted:In all honesty, we have bat poo poo insane people on both sides here. If you are in the central valley, bat poo poo right wing. If you're in the bay area/socal you run into batshit left wing. There are certain pockets of batshit right wing in bay/socal but you encounter it in more affluent areas. Oh, very much agreed. I just happen to live in an enclave of the batshit not rich but act like they are right wing. Also, I just had groceries delivered for the first time ever. That feels loving weird.
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Tusen Takk posted:the White House it's called the White House for a reason It's true. It is a house, and the color of the materials in its external construction is white.
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Tomarse posted:Mine is 13.7 seconds. I'll 'ave ya Ha! same as my car, though for a mere twice the value of the vehicle I can get a supercharger added and reduce it to 8 seconds
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Whenever people like to complain about burger flippers making $15/hr like they do, like this EMT kid I know, I have to remind them that they are being raped on their wages too. Quote this a million times.
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PaintVagrant posted:Michigan is the most racist place i have ever lived. Multiple thriving cities were gutted by their only real industry picking up and leaving overnight, spiraling into poverty and white-flight. Said fleeing white people then blame the entire thing on black people because they are obviously the reason the US auto industry hosed Flint/Detroit/etc. into the ground.  http://www.goobingdetroit.com/post/106819283061/by-plane-coming-up-the-detroit-river-you-can This a million times. Older people and most of the right-wing millennials refused to move to Detroit because it was 87% black, then all the hipsters from New York and Portland started moving downtown and making it a cool place, so the rent has been skyrocketing and pushing the low income black families out to Pontiac. Pretty much everyone complains about the large Yemeni/Lebanese/Arab Muslim community in Dearborn and will say poo poo even about the christian Chaldean people in Macomb (Saudi Heights, Mostly Chaldean College, etc). They're all kind and peaceful people, but people get hung up on the fact that many of them still do Old World stuff like haggle or whatever and it just makes things worse Madison Heights/Warren/Clinton Twp./St. Clair Shores "used to be nice before 2009, before all the foreclosures made it possible for those people to be able to own their own home" and since then a shitload of the white people that lived there have been moving farther north to Rochester Hills or ironically to Royal Oak/Ferndale which are basically Hip Detroit Lite cities A lot of people don't want to live in Oak Park/Bloomfield Hills because it's where most of the area's Jews live, and apparently antisemitism still is a thing Thankfully that means most of the Boomers live in the same areas and most of the younger people/Millennials live in the same areas, but yeah holy poo poo is this one of the most racially divided places I've ever lived. As it is said Citizen Tayne posted:North: you can be uppity but don't live near me
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Pham Nuwen posted:1937 Chevy with suicide doors for sale down the road. Paint's so-so, interior's nice. He had erased a 4-digit asking price and wrote OBO. I want to drive it. Do it do it do itttt. Not near as sweet looking as a same-year Chevy, but '37 was a good year for cars.
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Raluek posted:Do it do it do itttt. Not near as sweet looking as a same-year Chevy, but '37 was a good year for cars. Same year Chevy? It is a Chevy... Did you mean a Ford? Because those do own bones. Or a Chevy Coupe? Either way it's sweet, the interior is quite nice. I'll post pics in a bit.
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Raluek posted:Do it do it do itttt. Not near as sweet looking as a same-year Chevy, but '37 was a good year for cars. Hell yeah it was, here's my dad's '37 Ford 
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LOL if you believe that most people in the South, the home of state-sponsored segregation, are more OK with living near minorities. Half the time realtors won't even show houses in good neighborhoods to minorities, the other half the banks red-line them into lovely places.
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freelop posted:Ha! same as my car, though for a mere twice the value of the vehicle I can get a supercharger added and reduce it to 8 seconds Do these supercharger people do group buys?
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Cakefool posted:Do these supercharger people do group buys? http://www.tts-performance.co.uk/#!car-superchargers/c1s26 There's no mention of Fiat but knock yourself out
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wallaka posted:LOL if you believe that most people in the South, the home of state-sponsored segregation, are more OK with living near minorities. Half the time realtors won't even show houses in good neighborhoods to minorities, the other half the banks red-line them into lovely places. Oh I'm absolutely sure that they do and I'm sure that statement was an over-generalization, but the big things I noticed when I spent time down south for the first time a couple years ago is how many more mixed race couples I saw compared to up here, and how many more black people I saw in the same area as all the waspy whites in the areas we were in. That could also just be because there is a greater concentration of blacks down south compared to whites, but I honestly have no idea and I'm not going to pretend that I do
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Just finished changing the oil in the Focus. Every time I do this I wonder why in the hell we don't have cartridge filters on the top of the engine like my E36 had, that was so much neater and easier. Is there some functional reason that we use bottom filters that are impossible to change without getting hot oil all over your hand and arm?
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The Locator posted:Just finished changing the oil in the Focus. Every time I do this I wonder why in the hell we don't have cartridge filters on the top of the engine like my E36 had, that was so much neater and easier. Is there some functional reason that we use bottom filters that are impossible to change without getting hot oil all over your hand and arm? for some reason General Motors/Saab thought it would be a fantastic idea to put the oil filter cartridge underneath the supercharger in my IRL so that you can barely get it out and if you can you've said more bad words than you really care to admit
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Tusen Takk posted:A lot of people don't want to live in Oak Park/Bloomfield Hills because it's where most of the area's Jews live, and apparently antisemitism still is a thing It is funny that is still going on. In the mid-70's my dad went to Michigan for law school but he was from Davis, CA where that hasn't been a thing since ever (as it a California college town). He was quasi-Catholic (which would have also been a big deal a decade before) but our last name is often considered Jewish last name even though it is just German. In any event, he applied to a bunch of law firms in Detroit, but only really got traction with all-Jewish firms for that reason. He wasn't aware that these were Jewish firms as that just isn't a thing in CA. So he gets hired by a firm, and they find out he's a gentile when he shows up on Rosh Hashanah or something. They then wanted him to join all the clubs they couldn't join to find out what happened there (and networking). None of the clubs would take him because of the firm he worked at, even with a baptismal certificate. I can't believe that poo poo is still going on in 2000 and loving 16. Also, the stories about Detroit in the mid-late-70s are interesting. Than God he moved back to CA.
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Tusen Takk posted:for some reason General Motors/Saab thought it would be a fantastic idea to put the oil filter cartridge underneath the supercharger in my IRL so that you can barely get it out and if you can you've said more bad words than you really care to admit And that even if you attempt it once, you get frustrated with it and take it to a dealer next time, instead. Cartridge filters have no tangible benefit over traditional filters, other than increasing revenue for the manufacturer.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Same year Chevy? It is a Chevy... Did you mean a Ford? Because those do own bones. Or a Chevy Coupe? Yeah sorry I meant that the Chevy isn't quite as mean as the same-year Ford, but they're both pretty bitchin'. Pham Nuwen posted:Apologies for the lovely pictures, my wife and I were on our way to lunch so I was moving quick: Looks pretty nice from the outside, would make a good cruiser. Looks like it's been repainted though (is that metalflake?) so who knows what the condition of the mechanicals are. Still, would be nice to tool around in.
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nm posted:It is funny that is still going on. In the mid-70's my dad went to Michigan for law school but he was from Davis, CA where that hasn't been a thing since ever (as it a California college town). He was quasi-Catholic (which would have also been a big deal a decade before) but our last name is often considered Jewish last name even though it is just German. In any event, he applied to a bunch of law firms in Detroit, but only really got traction with all-Jewish firms for that reason. He wasn't aware that these were Jewish firms as that just isn't a thing in CA. So he gets hired by a firm, and they find out he's a gentile when he shows up on Rosh Hashanah or something. In all honestly I've helped a few Jewish customers that were very kind to me until they found out that my last name is Irish, not german-jewish, but it's not like they consistently do poo poo like that. Until I worked at the high-end mall in the area, it never even occurred to me that people might think that I'm Jewish based on my last name since I'm ginger, but apparently in Russia/Eastern Europe it's a stereotype that Jews are ginger. Who would have thought. I think a lot of the older people have certain antisemitic feelings simply because of the stuff like you described from the 70's, but more people notice it and care more about the Arabs that do similar stuff (owning all the local party stores, most of the MD's in the area being Arabic, in general a good portion of the Arabic-speaking peoples here are much better off than the whites, similar to the Jewish community) because THOSE GOD drat TERRORISTS it's all p hosed up and weird. meatpimp posted:And that even if you attempt it once, you get frustrated with it and take it to a dealer next time, instead. The tangible benefit is that they will eventually disintegrate and gently caress your motor beyond repair if you don't take care of it
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Tusen Takk posted:In all honestly I've helped a few Jewish customers that were very kind to me until they found out that my last name is Irish, not german-jewish, but it's not like they consistently do poo poo like that. You're saying they mistook your surname as German-Jewish?
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Come on Subaru, changing headlight bulbs every two years on the Impreza is a dick move. Even more so when I have to take the battery out to get at this one. I've already got three sets of the drat things (H4, H1 and H7) in the basement but oh no, 02-03 just has to be 9007.
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kimbo305 posted:You're saying they mistook your surname as German-Jewish? yeah, it sounds like Klein, except it's spelled differently and comes from the Irish word for deceiptful edit: they were Hasidic Jews and they asked me if I'd been to Israel and if I had any family in New York or Israel, I said no my last name is Irish and I think they were more embarrassed than they were trying to be rude, honestly. FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Tusen Takk posted:In all honestly I've helped a few Jewish customers that were very kind to me until they found out that my last name is Irish, not german-jewish, but it's not like they consistently do poo poo like that. Until I worked at the high-end mall in the area, it never even occurred to me that people might think that I'm Jewish based on my last name since I'm ginger, but apparently in Russia/Eastern Europe it's a stereotype that Jews are ginger. Who would have thought.
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nm posted:Apparently his law firm was pretty cool about him not being Jewish. They'd literally never had a Gentile apply because apparently the "Goldberg" (or whatever, don't recall the name) in the name should have tipped them off that this is where the Jews were. That's awesome, was it Bernstein?
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Tusen Takk posted:for some reason General Motors/Saab thought it would be a fantastic idea to put the oil filter cartridge underneath the supercharger in my IRL so that you can barely get it out and if you can you've said more bad words than you really care to admit Trigger warning that poo poo, I did that on a few cobalt ss/sc and it was an absolute nightmare every time. What the gently caress was gm thinking?
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Enourmo posted:Trigger warning that poo poo, I did that on a few cobalt ss/sc and it was an absolute nightmare every time. What the gently caress was gm thinking? Yeah I'd rather do those than a cavalier. With literally no easy way to get to it. Same thing with the crank sensor on the cavalier.
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wallaka posted:You get health care and a mostly livable wage. I live in Alabama. I'd take the tradeoff. They also have spiders the size of a truck, so, no. And everyone pretty much thinks that where they live is the worst place ever. Moving out of Alabama will only bring a new set of 'Man, this place sucks' And also, that 'livable wage' is part of the reason that the costs of that bourbon is what it is for Australians. If you raise the min wage, the cost of goods WILL go up for multiple reasons (increased labor costs, retailers/manufacturers/whatever saying 'well they make more so they can pay more', etc). So you're right back where you started. 15 bucks is the new 7.50. Then the people that made 50-100K (combined or single income, doesn't matter) feel it worse than anyone, because their wages don't increase yet the goods and services the min wagers created or produced increases. Be careful what you ask for. When they raised the wages in...Seattle? The people that were all gung ho about the wage increase were all like YAY MORE MONIES!! then they found out their increase in income caused them to lose their welfare benefits and then were all like NO! I CAN ONLY WORK 12 HOURS A WEEK (OH WAIT AWESOME WOOOHOOO!!!) So what will happen here, our society being what it is, human nature and all that, will earn 15 bucks an hour but work less in order to keep their welfare bennies because ultimately the welfare bennies are worth more. So, their income will be roughly the same (working 20 hours instead of 40) as it was before. Just this past week, I offered a guy at our office a promotion that would have put him managing 3 other guys, would have been a triple pay increase plus arguably one of the best benefits packages available anywhere. He worked part time, couple three days a week. He would have gone from making just shy of 20,000 a year to almost 60,000 with 401K (with company match), a pension plan, profit sharing, BCBS family coverage (250/500 max yearly deductible) that cost 187.50 a month, and a company loving TRUCK (F-150) that he could use as his personal vehicle as well at zero cost (insurance, gas, maintenance, repairs). He would get a new one every three years or if the mileage went over 80K. Automatic two weeks vacation plus a week of personal/sick days. After three years it goes to 3/1, eventually capping out at 7 weeks vacation/1 week personal/sick. Life changing money and benefits for this guy and his family. All thing considered, close to $100,000 a year worth of salary and benefits. He turned it down because he and his family would lose their welfare benefits. I immediately began rethinking the 'sharp as a tack' opinion and almost fired his rear end on the spot. But it occurs to me that while many on the welfare system know the tricks and abuse it, some are institutionalized to it and couldn't handle life without. But he knew how many hours he needed to work and stay under the cap. He would work extra if needed, but always said 'Boss, need you to adjust my timesheet' when he did or simply not clock in. So what do I do here? He's sharp, he's good at his job, and the guys he works with respond well to him. He's a 6'4 bald black dude with tatted up arms the size of an oak tree, but dude is an honest to goodness teddy bear. Not what you would call educated, but sharp as a damned tack and THE hardest working guy in that section. Show him something once, and the dude had it. Never late for his shifts. Did what needed to be done without asking or reminding. Pissed me off something fierce when he said he couldn't take the position. Rambling a bit... Income inequality as being touted by Sanders and such is a myth and I say that as an honest to God liberal. One is paid what one is worth as determined by the market. There are all sorts of professions that are not paid what they are perceived to be worth (teachers, EMT, police, fire, etc), but ultimately the market (not perception) determines that worth. And that's anywhere...USA, Australia, Norway. Tide fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Tide posted:They also have spiders the size of a truck, so, no. So does welfare pay into a 401k? Because that seems like a big loving hole in the plan right there.
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I think that that may be a very rare instance, because Welfare Kings/Queens are not nearly as common as many conservatives seem to think they are Yeah, the guy in Tide's story is a giant idiot, and he deffo should not have told him that was the reason why he couldn't take it (position it as I need to work less to take care of the kids/my sick parent/sling drugs) but he does not represent everyone on the dole and I can guarantee you that 99% of other welfare recipients would have jumped on that gig that's not getting into the fact that many dole recipients are PoC that do not have the opportunities or privileges of the whites on the dole who could better their situation for instance last year I was on the dole, but then i got an internship on top of my retail job and ended up making a shitload of money that I stuck into savings. it worked out super well so
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