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Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Sylphosaurus posted:

Yeah, a lot of players really need to learn when it's time to cut your losses and evacuate but I guess it goes against the whole "must ace all missions :pwn:" mindset that seems to be pretty common.

Annoyingly, the one time this campaign where I went "well this is hosed, time to go" was a VIP escort mission where I couldn't just EVAC.

I might have lost everyone, but the alien AI bugged out and all of them stopped moving. They wouldn't even scramble-on-reveal :lol: That's how I managed to skulljack a Codex, and defeat the Avatar. Cheesy as all hell, but the game owed it to me for putting the objective all the way across the map guarded by enormous blocks of HP.

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Just grab the upgrade that increases the likelyhood of downings instead of deaths.

You can't grab that upgrade until you have a soldier reach Major, which is dumb. By the time I have a Major, my troops aren't regularly dropping dead.

Mod plz

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LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!

Steelion posted:

Enemies with melee attacks just constantly gently caress me over and it sucks :(

Having a stun trooper near the edge of LoS sprint straight through my squad and stab my guys for like 7 damage + stun is hard to prevent, especially when I can shoot them twice with 100% accuracy and graze twice. Archons are just as bad except they have 25% defence and like 20 hp so they're almost impossible for me to kill in one turn, at which point they either sprint up to someone and smack them for 10 damage or fire off a missile barrage that forces me to spend moves relocating instead of shooting them or their support. Codices are obnoxious but at least they're relatively easy to kill.

What am I missing?

Set them on fire with incendiary grenades or dragon rounds- being on fire stops them from using their best abilities.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Alkydere posted:

I love Psi-Soldiers, holy poo poo. Hit a pair of Archons with the vortex ability and both hist procced Insanity, which both procced Mind Control (and damage because I have the skill that makes Insanity do damage).

This has saved my bacon a few times, let me tell you!

Psi Operatives are an immense force multiplier, the game ramps up difficulty enough that you pretty much always want the ability to take over at least some types of enemies.

Also, once aliens that spray acid everywhere start showing up, having a soldier with the passive ability to neutralize elemental attacks is amazing.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

I feel like half the time I nade to reveal the game just breaks and the aliens stand there crying.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
Psi-ops in general are loving amazing and have a power for literally any situation.

And the damage they do scales with their amp. So endgame you have multiple guarenteed sources of damage on one trooper that ignore all armor, and Psi-Lance does 10-14 damage in a long rear end line which is ridiculous.

Then you can use fuse to blow up a roof and drop an enemy for fall damage, or to wipe out their cover.

And don't even get me started on Domination, aka get a free meme beacon/broken alien ability. Like shield trooper to give your dudes ablative 5 HP, or Mark to give your dudes a huge aim bonus, or everything an Andromedon can do.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Having a strange problem with one/a combination of the three mods I'm running, TimerTweaks, Free Camera Rotation, or Strip Primary Weapons. Oftentimes when I finish a mission and get past the post-mission stats, to where you'd normally see your soldiers and pick promotions, I get a zoomed-in view of the bottom left section of the Avenger. I can't do anything from here, I have to quit and restart the game, reloading from the last turn of the mission, and hope that it works.

Anyone seen this?

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Encountered my first Gatekeeper, proceeded to instantly kill it with an overwatch shot that triggered the 5% instant kill from the attachment. Wrekt!

UberJumper
May 20, 2007
woop
Am i doing something wrong for the character pool? I spent like 2 hours hand crafting a ton of characters. Only to start a new game and only have 2 of my characters actually show up. The rest are just random rookies.

I changed these two lines:

code:
InitialSoldiersCharacterPoolSelectionMode=eCPSM_PoolOnly
RewardUnitCharacterPoolSelectionMode=eCPSM_PoolOnly

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Holy poo poo did they buff explosives in this game. There are no downsides to killing using explosives anymore, they shred armor, grenadiers add huge AOE and range, goddamn.

Running around with 2 grenadiers + exo suit + rocket gives me 8 explosives to use with just 2 units, and each explosive is the equivalent of an XCOM1 rocket. Insanely good.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

So supports with Guardian and repeaters are pretty god drat amazing

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Ciaphas posted:

Having a strange problem with one/a combination of the three mods I'm running, TimerTweaks, Free Camera Rotation, or Strip Primary Weapons. Oftentimes when I finish a mission and get past the post-mission stats, to where you'd normally see your soldiers and pick promotions, I get a zoomed-in view of the bottom left section of the Avenger. I can't do anything from here, I have to quit and restart the game, reloading from the last turn of the mission, and hope that it works.

Anyone seen this?

It's a bug with the strip primary weapons, hope you have a recent enough unmodded save to remove it.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
You can also use specialty grenade for even more fun. I quite like the Incendiary grenades for their massive AoE that hurts more than a plasma and gives burning. gently caress Chrysalids, cleanse it with fire.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Elliotw2 posted:

It's a bug with the strip primary weapons, hope you have a recent enough unmodded save to remove it.

Nope. RIP this campaign, then, right? That's really annoying that removing mods invalidates your campaign entirely.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Units killed by explosives don't drop loot, which is minor but still A Thing.

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Any mod that makes injuries work like EU yet?

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Is anyone else having the faceless just randomly turn and swipe your guys? I usually ignore the civvys for the aliens, but i was in the middle of a firefight with a few troopers and he just spawned. Nobody was near him, enemies were still alive.

E: Also I kind of like having my blokes get grabbed by the snaketits because the damage is poo poo and it takes the snaketits out of the fight until i'm ready to deal with it, poisons way more annoying.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Ciaphas posted:

Nope. RIP this campaign, then, right? That's really annoying that removing mods invalidates your campaign entirely.

If you're playing on non-ironman just make a save before you shoot the last enemy, and relaunch the game.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Thyrork posted:

This is pretty great! Are you insane enough to extend it to letting Tier 3 look like Teir 2, and do the same with guns? :unsmigghh:

No really, that'd be hella cool.
E: Now I'm not sure if you made them Vib. :shobon: Nevermind!
Yeah, sorry, I'm not the author and I didn't mean to imply I was. I was just very excited.

Mejwell
Jun 5, 2004

Great!

UberJumper posted:

Am i doing something wrong for the character pool? I spent like 2 hours hand crafting a ton of characters. Only to start a new game and only have 2 of my characters actually show up. The rest are just random rookies.

I changed these two lines:

code:
InitialSoldiersCharacterPoolSelectionMode=eCPSM_PoolOnly
RewardUnitCharacterPoolSelectionMode=eCPSM_PoolOnly

Do you have the tutorial enabled? I noticed this behavior when starting the tutorial for the first time, but deleting it out and starting the tutorial again seemed to correct the problem for my current runthrough.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

I feel like a idiot.


All this time I thought you had to have the shadow chamber before you could do the black sites.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Elliotw2 posted:

If you're playing on non-ironman just make a save before you shoot the last enemy, and relaunch the game.

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna have to do until he updates the mod, I suppose. Still pretty irritating, but at least I don't lose the campaign this way.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

My shotgun ranger just got Serial :stare:

Now I just need a +move pcs a laser sight and the +crit ammo.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Lima posted:

My shotgun ranger just got Serial :stare:

Now I just need a +move pcs a laser sight and the +crit ammo.

it's amazing, as 100 kill ranger Sarah "Hound Dog" White will attest

it doesn't seem to work with rapid fire, though :(

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy
Oh, boooo. I just lost a campaign that I was doing great on, minimal wounded, no deaths. I lose it because with one turn left I didn't realize that going to the front of a computer I'm supposed to hack into is NO GOOD, since I guess it was facing a square diagonal to it. I didn't have enough turns to get to the back of the computer so gently caress me, mission failed.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Two questions:

1. Is there a time limit on the Blacksite mission?

2. How worried should I be that the Avatar countdown is already at 5 pips and I don't even have a Psi Operative yet? Time to panic?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Harrow posted:

Two questions:

1. Is there a time limit on the Blacksite mission?

2. How worried should I be that the Avatar countdown is already at 5 pips and I don't even have a Psi Operative yet? Time to panic?

5 pips is nothing. Once you start doing story missions and facilities, those pips are gonna go down fast.

Edit: Also no time limit on blacksite missions unless it specifically says so.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



You can let the blacksite mission sit for months, that's what I did

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Viridiant posted:

Oh, boooo. I just lost a campaign that I was doing great on, minimal wounded, no deaths. I lose it because with one turn left I didn't realize that going to the front of a computer I'm supposed to hack into is NO GOOD, since I guess it was facing a square diagonal to it. I didn't have enough turns to get to the back of the computer so gently caress me, mission failed.

you can handle a few losses in this game, it's nothing catastrophic.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
Ha, my friend usually hates TBS games but she's fallen in love with this. :allears:

She sent me a screenshot that's kinda depressing though. I know soldiers visit each other in the sickbay, but..

UberJumper
May 20, 2007
woop

Mejwell posted:

Do you have the tutorial enabled? I noticed this behavior when starting the tutorial for the first time, but deleting it out and starting the tutorial again seemed to correct the problem for my current runthrough.

No tutorial enabled. I made the tweak in "my games/XCOM2/XComGame/config/XcomGameData.ini", should i be doing it somewhere else?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



The best thing about psi-troopers is the array of voice lines they have.

I've got two and one says lines like "The flesh melts away!" :black101: While the other one cheerfully goes "I'm inside your head! :v:

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Ciaphas posted:

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna have to do until he updates the mod, I suppose. Still pretty irritating, but at least I don't lose the campaign this way.

If he doesn't update it in, uh, 6-7 hours I will at least comment his changes out and save a mod named the same thing.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

I have absolutely no idea what he says, but German voice pack 2 and 'Intense' as a Psi-Op is the greatest goddamn thing ever.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



I kind of want to roll with six psi troopers and just mind control six enemies

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I kind of want to roll with six psi troopers and just mind control six enemies

It would probably work pretty drat well, but it would take a long time to train all of them.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Wow I'm getting some utterly insane LoS issues in an extraction mission. I had sight on a stun lancer, I bring up my ranger to a diagonally adjacent tile and he completely disappears. After my turn finishes he reappears and runs into the corner of a room. I go to kill him, and it activates a pod through a fully solid wall with no windows or breaks.

Next turn, the pod comes through the solid wall and kills me.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy

Lima posted:

My shotgun ranger just got Serial :stare:

Now I just need a +move pcs a laser sight and the +crit ammo.

serial rangers hell yeah

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy

Pomp posted:

you can handle a few losses in this game, it's nothing catastrophic.

Yeah, it's just a dumb little thing. Plus it was a Dark Event, so now I gotta avoid this dumb little UFO. What happens if it catches you?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Viridiant posted:

Yeah, it's just a dumb little thing. Plus it was a Dark Event, so now I gotta avoid this dumb little UFO. What happens if it catches you?

You fight a base Avenger defense mission.

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Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I kind of want to roll with six psi troopers and just mind control six enemies

So the once a mission limit is per operative, not per team? If so, that's hilarious. I'm just going into my Avenger defence and I am rolling both my psi ops for the first time.

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