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I like that Liliana is involved but that name's dumb as hell. Then again so is "oath of the gatewatch" and we're already used to it.
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Angry Grimace posted:
There she iiiis. Entropic posted:I like that Liliana is involved but that name's dumb as hell. Then again so is "oath of the gatewatch" and we're already used to it. Excuse me, Eldritch Moon pretty much is screaming "This is a Lovecraft Take on Innistrad, Emrakul is involved." Emrakul hosed with the moon and that's fabulous.
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Bets on if Argyle manages to twist Liliana's torso a full 180 degrees this time?
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Angry Grimace posted:
Why wasn't this there yesterday?
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Zoness posted:
Prepare for an unbalanced mechanic and a bunch of cards for his Commander deck!
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To offer another way of thinking on the "is Eldrazi fast or slow" debate, while it may not be consistently killing people on turn 4 of earlier, it is consistently playing above curve, which inherently gives it the feeling of speed (or at the very least, playing at a different speed than its counterparts). I think the crucial second component is that it features almost iron-clad inevitability in the form of Eye's tutor. Other decks that can blitz you and occasionally fall short and need to rely on the top of their deck for inevitability (think: Burn, Infect looking for pump spells, etc..) are doing just that: relying on the top of their deck for inevitability. Eldrazi plays its inevitability turn 1, tries to smash you with 4/4's and 5/5's, and if it doesn't draw them or they get removed, it's a known matter of time before more are on the way. That "vice grip" feeling makes it very hard for a fair deck to play ball, as its answers are stripped from hand, a 2-1 against itself, and/or unable to compete with repeatable tutors.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:11
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Chill la Chill posted:Bets on if Argyle manages to twist Liliana's torso a full 180 degrees this time? I hope she does a full 360 and planeswalks away
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Rinkles posted:Why wasn't this there yesterday? Probably don't have a cool preview video to go with it. Also they probably don't want to take too much attention away from Shadows Over Innistrad just yet. But yeah, Ken Nagle working as lead makes me a little annoyed, since I was very, very excited for a Lovecraft Themed set.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:14
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"Eldritch moon" is a terrible name. It sounds like the name of some anime intro song where the bands like to give their songs English names but don't know what they mean.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:15
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quote:Ken Nagle Shitlords over Innistrad
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The real question is why in the gently caress they didn't announce it on stream when they had 35000 viewers.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:19
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Angry Grimace posted:The real question is why in the gently caress they didn't announce it on stream when they had 35000 viewers. They spent its alloted time re-re-clarifying unified team rules.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:24
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I mean if they're tutoring they managed to naturally get 8 lands in play. Also it seems weird to spoil the second set when there are literally zero official SoI spoilers.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:25
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The Lord of Hats posted:Ah, good to know we'll be getting another Tamiyo.
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Feb 8, 2016 17:28
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I mean if they're tutoring they managed to naturally get 8 lands in play. Maybe they need to pump out the new stuff faster now given how they changed the release schedule? Eldritch Moon is scheduled for July, which is 3 months after Shadows. Which means we can probably expect the sets after that to come out in like, October, then January.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Ah, good to know we'll be getting another Tamiyo. Liliana, The Tamiyo
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Most of the sets Ken Nagle has lead have actually been fine. He's a weird awkward dude, but he apparently comes up with tons and tons of designs and the rest of R&D are able to keep his dumber ideas from actually being made. He lead Fate Reforged, and my only real complaint about that set was that the preponderance of bomb rares was annoying for limited, but that's more a development issue than a design one. Return to Ravnica was overall a good design too. Dragon's Maze was the weak link in that block. (Well, that and Boros being too good in Gatecrash.) People overstate his awfulness because we hear about the weird dumb mechanics he never got printed but tend to ignore all the good stuff that actually did make it into sets.
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Entropic posted:Most of the sets Ken Nagle has lead have actually been fine. He's a weird awkward dude, but he apparently comes up with tons and tons of designs and the rest of R&D are able to keep his dumber ideas from actually being made. Without Ken Nagle, we would never have that "Plays Rest In Piece Against Manaless Dredge, gets blown out by Helm of Obedience" clip that plays on SCG. Thank you Ken Nagle.
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Angry Grimace posted:"Eldritch moon" is a terrible name. It sounds like the name of some anime intro song where the bands like to give their songs English names but don't know what they mean. I hope its set abbreviation is EMO.
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Entropic posted:Most of the sets Ken Nagle has lead have actually been fine. He's a weird awkward dude, but he apparently comes up with tons and tons of designs and the rest of R&D are able to keep his dumber ideas from actually being made. I'm actually mad/disappointed at Ken Nagle because we haven't seen any recent cosplay.
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C-Euro posted:I hope its set abbreviation is EMO. I think it's EMN but I was really hoping for ELM or EDM. Entropic posted:People overstate his awfulness because we hear about the weird dumb mechanics he never got printed but tend to ignore all the good stuff that actually did make it into sets. lol drs I hate ken nagle because he hates everything I love in magic. If people want to go along w/ my hatred that is ok w/ me.
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Cynic Jester posted:Liliana, The Tamiyo Liliana, Eldritch Moonsocks
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Zoness posted:I think it's EMN but I was really hoping for ELM or EDM. it's EMN yeah
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Entropic posted:he apparently comes up with tons and tons of designs and the rest of R&D are able to keep his dumber ideas from actually being made. So that's why him leading is not encouraging, even if it's just on the face of it. I'm perfectly good with him designing Monastery Swiftspear or something. Zoness posted:I hate ken nagle because he hates everything I love in magic. Same.
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i like ken nagle because we need someone to think of mechanics like "shuffle cards into your opponent's deck" even if 99% of them never get made, because otherwise every new block mechanic is "kicker variant" or "put +1/+1 counters on dudes."
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Feb 8, 2016 17:48
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Angry Grimace posted:
That is a dumb as hell name, which is a shame cause Shadows over Innistrad was actually a pretty nice allusion
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Feb 8, 2016 17:49
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Good Ken Nagle cosplay ideas: Enthralling victor Pia or Kiran Nalaar expedition land Hallowed Fountain ELM Tamiyo or Liliana, no art for the former yet so it's a tossup
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Angry Grimace posted:
That moon doesn't look oblong at all
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I mean the eldrazi are actually meant to be weird. I'm sure Nagle will come up with something that makes pwnage look evergreen.
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it will own if this means blood moon functional reprint that turns non-basics into wastes
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and before you pedantically reply, yes i know waste isnt a type, you know what im getting at
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mandatory lesbian posted:it will own if this means blood moon functional reprint that turns non-basics into wastes 
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mandatory lesbian posted:it will own if this means blood moon functional reprint that turns non-basics into wastes Call it Odd Moon.
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oh man they even have the templating ready to go, i want it to happen
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mandatory lesbian posted:That is a dumb as hell name, which is a shame cause Shadows over Innistrad was actually a pretty nice allusion Market testing showed that our focus groups didn't understand the flavor we built into SOI, so we made them more explicit in EMN
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Cynic Jester posted:Call it Odd Moon. Call it Make Contact.
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Count Bleck posted:Call it Make Contact. That's no moon.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Market testing showed that our focus groups didn't understand the flavor we built into SOI, so we made them more explicit in EMN I could believe this lol
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But seriously why is it in the past two years there's been a lot of media that is just huge lovecraft references? Did people finally realize that it's an audience that loves when their stuff gets referenced?
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