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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Swaddling is when you wrap babies in cloths also. Hence the metaphor.

It woud be like googling spooning and getting articles about how to eat soup.

I would suggest that vaginas at least are quite sensitive to what you put in them and tend to express their displeasure by getting infections. Your other half's may not appreciate having your dick in it for any period of time.

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KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Whose genitals will fall off first?

Only one thing to do. Try it and report back.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

KillHour posted:

Try it and report back.

Trip report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tm_content=link

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007



Are you the dead guy or the prostitute?

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

I am Jack's tenuous cardiovascular system.

Poke Chop
Apr 27, 2008
Any goons experienced in open relationships, specifically polyamorous relationships?

My wife and I signed up for OKC accounts when some of our swing friends started telling us about their dating success stories. The non-monogamous tag is a shitshow to begin with, but the weirdest thing is that all of the people that seem halfway normal not completely insane are identifying as 'poly' instead of something like 'open relationship'. Do kids today just have a new buzzword for good old-fashioned hedonism?

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Poke Chop posted:

Any goons experienced in open relationships, specifically polyamorous relationships?

My wife and I signed up for OKC accounts when some of our swing friends started telling us about their dating success stories. The non-monogamous tag is a shitshow to begin with, but the weirdest thing is that all of the people that seem halfway normal not completely insane are identifying as 'poly' instead of something like 'open relationship'. Do kids today just have a new buzzword for good old-fashioned hedonism?

The main distinction between swinging and poly are that polyamorous people are generally looking for multiple romantic partners and are open to forming a LTR, whereas swinging is used to mean mostly just sex.

There's a lot of overlap, to be honest, and as long as you're up front that you're looking for something casual, it should be fine.

Brutor Fartknocker
Jun 18, 2013


I've been exploring poly the last year, so if you've any questions fire away.

The big difference between open and poly I've found is that when people say open they mean they have one romantic I love you type partner and gently caress around with people on the side. Usually there is little to no emotional attachment to the people they're just loving. Poly however runs a gamut from for example: my current relationship which is I have a girlfriend, and her husband is also one of my best friends, and so we hang out a lot together. To the other end where there is emotional connection between partners, but while they know their partner has other partners, they don't really care to know or even meet their partners' partners.

Your partner's partner is your metamour, handy word for these types of things.

Edit: What hoobajoo said yeah.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

black.lion posted:

It would be the most boring hetero form of sex, the kind that's been legal the longest.

e: I googled swaddling and its about babies, what the hell I'm not penetrating a baby while I sleep.

You're asleep, how would you know... :(

black.lion
Apr 1, 2004




For if he like a madman lived,
At least he like a wise one died.

I mean, fair point, but unless someone is sneaking into my house with their infant at night, there's no baby around to penetrate. And if they're doing that, I think it's on them, I'm asleep after all!

What does "Bape" mean?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

black.lion posted:

I mean, fair point, but unless someone is sneaking into my house with their infant at night, there's no baby around to penetrate. And if they're doing that, I think it's on them, I'm asleep after all!

What does "Bape" mean?

It's a portmanteau of "banana canapé" which is a sex act wherein one partner serves snacks to party guests off of the others nude torso

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That doesn't sound very much like a sex act.

E: and in my case it would be fairly unsanitary.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

OwlFancier posted:

That doesn't sound very much like a sex act.

E: and in my case it would be fairly unsanitary.

Sex is nasty sometimes. Wear protection.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I suppose a full-body condom would stop you getting chest hair in the profiteroles.

Poke Chop
Apr 27, 2008

hoobajoo posted:

The main distinction between swinging and poly are that polyamorous people are generally looking for multiple romantic partners and are open to forming a LTR, whereas swinging is used to mean mostly just sex.

There's a lot of overlap, to be honest, and as long as you're up front that you're looking for something casual, it should be fine.

Yeah, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting. I'm starting from a position of 'I love my wife and I don't want anything to jeopardize that'. Casual sex has never appealed to us. We prefer to find people we can spend time or travel with, but that we can also be open and intimate with. Casual dating, I suppose.

We had an LTR going with the first couple that we met online, but they moved away about 6 months ago. I didn't realize how much I missed spending time with them until we went to visit them recently; that's when we decided to put effort into meeting people that we connect with.

I just went on my first date as me, instead of a couple's profile that showcases my wife's budoir pictures. I really like this girl, and I have full support to pursue it, but my wife has no desire to meet anyone without me. Am I poly, and she's a swinger? I feel like we are both somewhere in between.

Or I am just a deuchebag who is cheating on his spouse?

Brutor Fartknocker posted:

I've been exploring poly the last year, so if you've any questions fire away.

The big difference between open and poly I've found is that when people say open they mean they have one romantic I love you type partner and gently caress around with people on the side. Usually there is little to no emotional attachment to the people they're just loving. Poly however runs a gamut from for example: my current relationship which is I have a girlfriend, and her husband is also one of my best friends, and so we hang out a lot together. To the other end where there is emotional connection between partners, but while they know their partner has other partners, they don't really care to know or even meet their partners' partners.

Your partner's partner is your metamour, handy word for these types of things.

Edit: What hoobajoo said yeah.

I'd be interested to hear your perspective as the outsider coming into a marriage. Do you consider yourselves a trio? Do any of you have relationships outside of this dynamic?

OwlFancier posted:

As someone who is absolutely monogamous and doesn't even begin to understand polyamory, if you and your wife are both OK with it I don't really see how it can be considered cheating, cheating is when you are not adhering to the mutually agreed terms of your relationship. If you're clear on what those are and stick to them, you're not doing anything wrong.

If you're not sure how your wife feels about it, I would talk to her about it, I imagine she may appreciate your concern if nothing else.
We go through about a week of discussion before and after we try something new, just so we don't make any impulsive decisions.

Poke Chop fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 6, 2016

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

As someone who is absolutely monogamous and doesn't even begin to understand polyamory, if you and your wife are both OK with it I don't really see how it can be considered cheating, cheating is when you are not adhering to the mutually agreed terms of your relationship. If you're clear on what those are and stick to them, you're not doing anything wrong.

If you're not sure how your wife feels about it, I would talk to her about it, I imagine she may appreciate your concern if nothing else.

Bunk Rogers
Mar 14, 2002

Don't suppose anyone of you are going to Winter Fire?

Brutor Fartknocker
Jun 18, 2013


You sound like you're poly, and she sounds somewhere between poly and swinger. It's really just what sort of dynamic you enjoy, and each if you has your respective tastes.

I don't view us as a trio mostly because that would imply he and I are intimate, and we're not. We're both pretty straight, and neither of us find the other the kind of man candy that would make us go for it.

I have a two long distance partners, which due to the nature of long distance are pretty casual, talk occasionally, maybe play with each other if we're in the same town relationships. She only has us two, and is pretty content there, juggling her husband, me, and school work eats up all her time. He has two girlfriends.

They're still pretty new to poly, and are exploring how they feel comfortable engaging in it. Both like getting to know potential metamours, and hold veto power over the others relationships.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

black.lion posted:

I mean, fair point, but unless someone is sneaking into my house with their infant at night, there's no baby around to penetrate. And if they're doing that, I think it's on them, I'm asleep after all!

What does "Bape" mean?

aatrek alt spotted.

dovetaile
Jul 8, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Travis343 posted:

This is called "swaddling" and it's pretty difficult to pull off. If you do, though, whoo.

It will not be pleasurable in any way.

I've heard this called cockwarming, although that might just be for in the mouth.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bunk Rogers posted:

Don't suppose anyone of you are going to Winter Fire?

Probably not.

Poke Chop
Apr 27, 2008

Thank you for sharing that. This is my first identity crisis, and it's hard to find IRL folks to talk about it with. Can you recommend any books?

Bunk Rogers
Mar 14, 2002


Close!

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Poke Chop posted:

Yeah, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting. I'm starting from a position of 'I love my wife and I don't want anything to jeopardize that'. Casual sex has never appealed to us. We prefer to find people we can spend time or travel with, but that we can also be open and intimate with. Casual dating, I suppose.

We had an LTR going with the first couple that we met online, but they moved away about 6 months ago. I didn't realize how much I missed spending time with them until we went to visit them recently; that's when we decided to put effort into meeting people that we connect with.

I just went on my first date as me, instead of a couple's profile that showcases my wife's budoir pictures. I really like this girl, and I have full support to pursue it, but my wife has no desire to meet anyone without me. Am I poly, and she's a swinger? I feel like we are both somewhere in between.

Or I am just a deuchebag who is cheating on his spouse?

As long as your wife is aware of what you're doing and approves of it, it's not cheating. You should also let the girl know pretty early on that you're in an open marriage, and only looking for something casual, to not lead her on.

I'd say the word 'poly' is applicable to you two, if you wanted to use it, since it sounds like you both like friendship/companionship in addition to good sex. Poly is like an umbrella term, that encompasses a lot of non-traditional relationship dynamics. What's most important is everyone is on the same page.

From the poly people I know, it's not uncommon for one partner to be a little more outgoing or independent than the other, and that's fine. But it's extra important you make sure that your wife is still getting the attention and love she needs. One thing I learned, and I think is good for ANY relationship, is to set aside a little time, maybe an hour a month, that's the official 'honestly talk about the relationship time'.

Brutor Fartknocker
Jun 18, 2013


Opening Up and More Than Two are the ones my friends have recommended to me most heavily, and I've been told Sex At Dawn is a good read. The Ethical Slut is the classic book about poly stuff, but it more serves as a collection of stories. That said, I've read a little of it and like it. Definitely go with the first two though, I've had a number of friends recommend those two over the others.

As hoobajoo said with setting a time aside each month to talk about stuff, it's really good to do that with a set time frame in mind, though exceptions are ok. Sometimes people aren't having a good time because a lot is happening and they're always trying to talk about stuff and not getting in any quality time with their partner. My girlfriend and her husband have a soft rule that they don't go three nights without spending a night with just each other.

Fuck da Mods
Jun 27, 2013

fina get poz'd? :cabot: :gizz: :baby:
Why are bkowjob so wet? Also I got poo poo all over a penis in my butt -- how do I prevent the poo

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Waci
May 30, 2011

A boy and his dog.

gently caress da Mods posted:

Why are bkowjob so wet? Also I got poo poo all over a penis in my butt -- how do I prevent the poo

Dump, enema, shower. You can shove a foot-long glass tentacle up there and it'll come out sparkling.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Waci posted:

a foot-long glass tentacle

Recommendations?

Faerunner
Dec 31, 2007
Recommendation: Don't use glass in your rear end.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


Faerunner posted:

Recommendation: Don't use glass in your rear end.

Please tell me you don't know this from experience :gonk:

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

Poke Chop posted:

Yeah, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting. I'm starting from a position of 'I love my wife and I don't want anything to jeopardize that'. Casual sex has never appealed to us. We prefer to find people we can spend time or travel with, but that we can also be open and intimate with. Casual dating, I suppose.

We had an LTR going with the first couple that we met online, but they moved away about 6 months ago. I didn't realize how much I missed spending time with them until we went to visit them recently; that's when we decided to put effort into meeting people that we connect with.

I just went on my first date as me, instead of a couple's profile that showcases my wife's budoir pictures. I really like this girl, and I have full support to pursue it, but my wife has no desire to meet anyone without me. Am I poly, and she's a swinger? I feel like we are both somewhere in between.

Or I am just a deuchebag who is cheating on his spouse?


I'd be interested to hear your perspective as the outsider coming into a marriage. Do you consider yourselves a trio? Do any of you have relationships outside of this dynamic?

We go through about a week of discussion before and after we try something new, just so we don't make any impulsive decisions.

What's the ratio of crazy to not from OKC? My wife have had a similar situation with a few couples over the years but they've moved away or broken up or whatever, and I kind of miss that.

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so

Brutor Fartknocker posted:

Opening Up and More Than Two are the ones my friends have recommended to me most heavily, and I've been told Sex At Dawn is a good read. The Ethical Slut is the classic book about poly stuff, but it more serves as a collection of stories. That said, I've read a little of it and like it. Definitely go with the first two though, I've had a number of friends recommend those two over the others.

As hoobajoo said with setting a time aside each month to talk about stuff, it's really good to do that with a set time frame in mind, though exceptions are ok. Sometimes people aren't having a good time because a lot is happening and they're always trying to talk about stuff and not getting in any quality time with their partner. My girlfriend and her husband have a soft rule that they don't go three nights without spending a night with just each other.

I've read Sex at Dawn and it wasn't a bad book, but it's definitely not a book on "how to be poly" or whatever people think it is. It's more of a research study about how humans are evolutionarily set up to be polygamous and into group sex (and evidenced by things like penis shape, sperm counts, women's short refractory periods, response to coital vocalizations, etc). The book lags a bit in places though, as it feels more like a published thesis (it has a chapter basically attacking another researcher) than the type of "scholarly" book you'd get from a biologist like Dawkins.

I also read Come As You Are and found it thoroughly disappointing, I nearly stopped reading it multiple times. It was full of generic "positive body image" language like you'd find on a Tumblr image macro, as opposed to a more neutral, research-centric informative piece. For example, I noted numerous recurrences when it would describe something and then attach some sort of beauty remark or personal "feel-good" to it, like "some labias are pink, some are brown, some are big, some are small... and all are beautiful and normal and wonderful and the porn industry is all photoshop and giving women a negative body image etc".

Normally it's not a big deal to note that, but it happened so consistently with every little thing describing a characteristic about a body part that I nearly wanted to quit reading it since I felt like I was on some lovely Tumblr blog. Additionally, it basically just goes on social issues with little backing it up, and "real women's stories" which are basically a nonscientific interview to give a long-winded "everyone is different (and beautiful, normal, etc) and needs different thing" conclusion. If you've got some crippling body image or self-worth issues and want a book full of "feel-goods" it's fine to read, but if you're looking for a serious, informative study, don't bother with it.

That being said, I went into the book with the expectation of a more serious, scientific, neutral, research-based study on the subject so it might have been misrepresented to me as to what kind of book it actually is. It's not a research book, it's not a science book, it's a self-help book for people that want reassurance that "yes, it's fine if you can't orgasm unless it's 71 degrees in the room and six candles are burning", or "yes, it's normal that you get turned on reading 50 Shades of Grey but not when your husband is around".

PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Feb 8, 2016

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
The title is literally "Come As You Are"

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
I know, I'm just saying that the general presentation and description of the book made me expect a more scientific or research book, when in fact it's a self-help book, generally targeted at women who think there's something "wrong" with them.

The cover even notes that it's "new science to transform your sex life" and the description makes it sound like its more of a published research work. The publisher also catalogues in science.

Had it been presented differently, I would have had a different opinion on it. As a self-help book, the consensus is that it's a useful read, but as a serious science book, it seriously underwhelms.

I would have gone with Come As You Are: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Labia

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Taking a stance in the title is a pretty big clue it's not going to be neutral. "Come as you are" is gonna be about coming however you do (and being okay with it). I think your book would probably be called A Scientific Inquiry into Acceptable Types and Methods of Orgasm?

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
Which is what I said. If you're looking for a feelgood self-help book it's fine, but if you're looking for a pop-science book that presents new avenues of sex research, avoid it.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

PRADA SLUT posted:

Which is what I said. If you're looking for a feelgood self-help book it's fine, but if you're looking for a pop-science book that presents new avenues of sex research, avoid it.

I mean really what you said is "this is stupid tumblr bullshit for idiots" but okay

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Faerunner posted:

Recommendation: Don't use glass in your rear end.

As long as it's specifically a sex toy made of glass, it's fine. Just don't use, you know, traditional glass. Only sexglass should go in your butt, it deserves nothing less.

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so

Travis343 posted:

I mean really what you said is "this is stupid tumblr bullshit for idiots" but okay

It does have a lot of that in it, which is fine if you're expecting an opinionated self-help piece, not a science book.

I don't have a problem with the content of the book, I just wish it was more clear that it's a self-help book mainly based on the authors counseling experience, not a book on the general research science of women's sexuality.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Essentially sex studies may be interesting, but platitudinous edification is likely not, unless you have a need for it.

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