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Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Mak0rz posted:

Do you have a separate shelf where you keep your "not incredible" game collection because dang this is an all-star lineup here.

Nope that's it!

PC Gamer used to be really good back then. In 2000 or so they had an issue that came with a free disc of complete versions of a bunch of great old games. I remember it had Ultima Underworld, X-Com: UFO Defense, King's Quest, Monkey Island 1, Alone in the Dark, Duke Nukem II, Wing Commander and I think Descent 1.

It's fun going through the issues from 98-2000 or so and reading the articles speculating about Half Life 2 and Team Fortress 2 and what Valve was planning, which was way different from what was actually developed. Also an issue with prerelease screenshots of Duke Nukem Forever in 2000 or so before they scrapped everything. And Daikatana hype and the eventual bad review

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Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
Speaking of the click team game making chat, I used to visit this site a lot:

http://www.create-games.com

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be updated anymore, but it lasted a lot longer than I would have thought considering I left the scene like 10 years ago. The game uploader still apparently works since there are some games released this year on the "what's new" list, which is really impressive, so I guess the scene is still alive in some form.

The Klik and Play scene started in the AOL days and I was around during that time, I would go to the place where people uploaded games on a daily basis and download anything, lots of shite but also some real fun games. After AOL died people made new sites to host games and chat on IRC (#k&p on dalnet), where I used to visit all the time and shoot the poo poo with others. It was a real magical time. By the time I stopped visiting and checking for new games, some of them were really advanced, and people were even starting to charge for the massive titles (although back then they would send you CDs as digital distribution wasn't so common yet).

Always fun to see people in the scene become successful in the games industry, many of them use the same nicknames, I even recognize people on SA who used to be active. Sometimes people who made it "big" would still stop by the Irc channel as well. Oddly enough, I don't recall too much drama in the scene, maybe some stupid poo poo happened but overall everyone was incredibly friendly.

Original_Z has a new favorite as of 05:44 on Feb 9, 2016

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry
Playing Snowcraft in middle school.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

Wicker Man posted:

Playing Snowcraft in middle school.

drat, i remember that dumb thing. p sweet when it was on one of the few sites the school didn't block.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Remember Norton Change Disk?


Oh, if we're going down that route...

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


The Kins posted:

Oh, if we're going down that route...


reported for :filez:

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

DOS Navigator supremacy :colbert: albeit I grew up with NC, but nowadays on my old PCs I use DN. It has Tetris!

thoughts and prayers
Apr 22, 2013

Love heals all wounds. We hope you continually carry love in your heart. Today and always, may loving memories bring you peace, comfort, and strength. We sympathize with the family of (Name). We shall never forget you in our prayers and thoughts. I am at a loss for words during this sorrowful time.

Shaquin posted:

I think that's very much the case where even with only a couple of decades of experience I can safely say the brain sifts the memories of that poo poo until you do not remember or consider the garbage

My brain is broken then, because I remember the vast majority of games on the Commodore were frustrating as hell - the difficulty either lurched from ludicrously easy to impossible in the span of a few minutes of play (Mail Order Monsters), or you had a game that was essentially a platformer that could only be solved with some crazy code-breaking nonsense (Impossible Mission), or was just incredibly monotonous or boring (Temple of Apshai).

The few games that really stood out to me were standouts to everyone else - like Beach Head, MULE, Archon, Blue Max, stuff like that. The rest - and holy poo poo did my dad pirate a poo poo-ton of games via his 'Commodore Club' - were rear end.

thoughts and prayers
Apr 22, 2013

Love heals all wounds. We hope you continually carry love in your heart. Today and always, may loving memories bring you peace, comfort, and strength. We sympathize with the family of (Name). We shall never forget you in our prayers and thoughts. I am at a loss for words during this sorrowful time.

It's me, I'm the computer relic.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Here's a neat site I stumbled upon after finding windows 1 and visual basic for DOS. It has simulations of old PC machines from back in the 80 along with one with Windows 1, well worth a look.

http://www.pcjs.org/

yogizh
Oct 12, 2015
Dumb Helicopter Joke Enthusiast
Old music software was nice, not very user friendly. Friends used to make death metal on this beauty.

AbbadonOfHell
Jul 16, 2004
You know I would try to think of something funny to put here but ill just pass on that and threaten people with a + 2 board with a nail in it.

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

Man I love the guide that came with Baulders Gate 2. It was spiral bound and easily 100-200 pages long. Had lots of cool art and poo poo in the margins



It came with a cloth map too, hell if I know where it is right off though.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

a happy snowman posted:

It's me, I'm the computer relic.
My first computer was a TRS-80 Model III AKA the Trash-80.
Ran a BBS on it too.

It is I who am teh relic.

http://armchairarcade.com/neo/node/4680

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer

I will never be able to listen to Danse Macabre without thinking of running from the ghosts in the ballroom.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

by Radio Games Forum

Keith Atherton posted:

What about retail software stores? I remember going to Egghead Software to buy boxed copies of games. I bought Fallout 1 based just on the box art and screenshots. I have a bunch of old games in my office bookshelf:



Also PC Gamer from 1998 to 2004 or so.



Babbages.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
Software Etc.

Majere
Oct 22, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I miss the old Neverwinter Nights on AOL. I started playing just before they switched to unlimited so it was my first $300 bill and then the gates were closed because it could only handle 200 people logged in at once.

drat you Lord Nasher, open the gate!

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I used to play this one MUD I wish I could remember the name of it... at least I think it was a MUD. It was like a text and story-based fantasy game but you could get equipment, move around a world, interact with NPCs. basically precursor to modern MMORPGs I guess? do I have that right?

If so, what were some of the most popular MUDs circa mid 90s

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012


this was one of my absolute favorite games as a kid. it combined three of my favorite things at that age:

* star wars related...
* pc game...
* that's a first person shooter!

which reminds me the first thing that i ever purchased over the internet was related to this game. there was a level editor somebody had made but they were charging a somewhat low price for it. I think $20 in 1990s money (dunno why I bothered saying that that's only like $30 today). i finally convinced my dad to let me use his credit card to buy it and the next few months of my life were heaven. i was making my own levels and even assets. 2d level editors were a breeze to use.

i remember later on a 3d successor to this game came out that was in 3d and had lightsabers and poo poo. I tried to learn the level editor for it. i opened it up once, got really overwhelmed, and gave up then and there...

Gonzo the Eggman
Apr 15, 2010

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.
A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

thathonkey posted:

I used to play this one MUD I wish I could remember the name of it... at least I think it was a MUD. It was like a text and story-based fantasy game but you could get equipment, move around a world, interact with NPCs. basically precursor to modern MMORPGs I guess? do I have that right?

If so, what were some of the most popular MUDs circa mid 90s

MUDS (Multi User Domains or Multi User Dungeons) were the precursor to MMORPGS. Basically, big multplayer text adventures.

I've got a book somewhere called Surfing on the Internet: A Nethead's Adventures Online. It is, as the title suggests, one person's experiences during the glory days of pre-commercialised Internet (early - mid-90s).

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
I used to play realms of despair a lot, but closer to 2000 than mid 90s. It was pretty popular thigh, and I'm pretty sure it was running back then, even if I wasn't playing yet myself.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Anyone remember Sleuth?



I know I've posted about it before, but it was great, because you could personalize your game. It's basically single-player Clue, where you could eventually die. Adding in ridiculous names and then talking to suspects gave conversations like "I spent the entire evening with Bumpoop in the study," replies Dick Butkiss as he drinks from his glass. "You know who would want Conan dead? Jay Leno, that's who! I have no doubt of it. The man has been deviously planning something, but what, I have no clue. Maybe Weedlord Bonerhitler would be more helpful, though."

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Remember Norton Change Disk?



2-pane navigation/file editing, mouse support...poo poo was glorious. My dad had it installed on every computer we had growing up, and I remember being really confused when I'd go on my friends/school computers and "ncd" would give me the good ol' "bad command or file name"

2-pane navigation still rules and Xplorer^2 is like the first program I re-install on every computer

VVVVVVVVV I think ncd was actually released with Norton Utilities originally, but IIRC NU and NC were pretty similar overall (I think NU was rolled into NC?)

That looks like some sort of lame windows application. Should really be using FAR:


http://www.farmanager.com/

Gonzo the Eggman
Apr 15, 2010

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.
A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

mobby_6kl posted:

That looks like some sort of lame windows application. Should really be using FAR:


http://www.farmanager.com/

Farm anager?

take my life... please!
May 31, 2006

We make everything you need and you need everything we make.
I had several of these programs as a fat-headed sausage-fingered computer babby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwhG14Urm9Q

They were some of the few programs we ran in Windows. I loved the Super Solver's games as a kid, Outnumbered being my favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5r0NZ2XiDE

I played Arctic Adventure and Paganitzu alot, I accessed these through a menu my dad had put together with some batch scripting. He brought tons of games home from his friends at work who were plucking them from newsgroups and copying disks at the office.
You could play those games here if you wanted.

I also had an ancient version of Reader Rabbit, that when you finished the game you could get your name printed on an ASCII art certificate that you ran off your dot-matrix printer. I had stacks of "completion certificates" and irritated my dad with how much paper I'd waste. I really just loved watching it print. Eventually we traded the Epson dot-matrix in for a Canon BUBBLEJET, which was easily the fastest printer we had ever owned. However, the image quality would fade rather quickly as it pretty much just sprayed ink all over the god-damned paper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uoBE2uTzc

God I miss that loving thing.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Yes to manage my server farm

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
You mean to anage it.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

EDIT: ^^^^ I still need a Fi Lanager in my life, btw.

I remember how dot matrix printers were pretty much THE thing to print banners on, and nowadays, no one bothers with banners :smith:

Also, serious question: Does anyone actually print stuff themselves, or do they just go to somewhere like Staples/Kwik Kopy/etc for that stuff?

take my life... please!
May 31, 2006

We make everything you need and you need everything we make.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

EDIT: ^^^^ I still need a Fi Lanager in my life, btw.

I remember how dot matrix printers were pretty much THE thing to print banners on, and nowadays, no one bothers with banners :smith:

Also, serious question: Does anyone actually print stuff themselves, or do they just go to somewhere like Staples/Kwik Kopy/etc for that stuff?

If it's not black and white and over 300 dpi, I just pick it up from Staples. I got in the habit of storing all my "print-outs" as xps and saving them on flash drives.

Gonzo the Eggman
Apr 15, 2010

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.
A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

The woman on the left looks like she's up to no good.
Ruff (the dog?) seems to be eyeing her, or her nefarious knitting, off hungrily.
The girl with the hoop seems blithely unaware of the killer car, and what the gently caress is the golfer looking at?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think people only did banners because some parent or friend always had a printer that could do it. Birthday parties, office and school functions always had the dot matrix banner. Once people got ink jet printers and you had to actually go pay for a banner, the motivation wasn't there.

Gonzo the Eggman
Apr 15, 2010

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.
A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Cojawfee posted:

I think people only did banners because some parent or friend always had a printer that could do it. Birthday parties, office and school functions always had the dot matrix banner. Once people got ink jet printers and you had to actually go pay for a banner, the motivation wasn't there.

It's a bit difficult to print a banner on separate pieces of paper. You have to stick them together yourself. Much easier with dot matrix paper, which was one continuous sheet but perforated.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

After the banner came the rasterbator, which is evidently still a thing.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Mak0rz posted:

It's still there in Windows 10 (10.0.10586)!


Hey that was one of the games that I was playing too. Blame Eidos for it, as they did the shoddy porting job. The game would crash to desktop all the time and even occasionally bluescreen. On Eidos' FAQ page for it they basically said "Yes we are aware this happens, but we don't know why. Save often."

Also the Rage 128 would reliably make one of Cid's Limit Breaks (either Hyper Jump or Dragon Dive) crash the game every time. I had to avoid using him altogether because of that. :allears:

My old P2 Dell had this piece of poo poo 3dLabs Permedia2 card in it which actually worked with about 10% of games. Half the time I'd just get flat-shaded greyness instead of actual textures. It did not work with FF7 so I "got" to play thru it in 320x240 software mode

Soldier of Fortune was kind of funny because it textured everything but with the wrong textures, so when you'd blow a limb off instead of the gore texture it'd be police "do not cross" tape on the severed parts

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

slomomofo posted:

After the banner came the rasterbator, which is evidently still a thing.

I was actually genuinely planning on rasterbating all over my walls growing up, but decided against it.

I just don't have that much ink.

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

I think everyone had one of those in the mid 90's. Working at Circuit City I probably sold 10 a week. I had one myself, worked great.

take my life... please!
May 31, 2006

We make everything you need and you need everything we make.

Mad Monk posted:

I think everyone had one of those in the mid 90's. Working at Circuit City I probably sold 10 a week. I had one myself, worked great.

Easily one of the best printers we ever had.

During the 90's my mom and I each worked with Printshop Pro designing posters and banners. Getting a color printer changed my entire world and pretty much started my path on graphic design.

slomomofo posted:

After the banner came the rasterbator, which is evidently still a thing.

I made more than one Vacation Bible School banner with rasterbator and people thought I owned a drat print studio at 12.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I fuckin loved Klick & Play, Click & Create, The Games Factory, Multimedia Fusion, etc.

Nostalgia incoming:












FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
For a Commodore 64 game, EA Adventure Construction Set was a nice program, I spent a LOT of time with it.

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take my life... please!
May 31, 2006

We make everything you need and you need everything we make.

Last Chance posted:


Nostalgia incoming


If mobile apps were a thing in the 90's, these would've been the cornerstone. I remember grabbing several free "games" from download.com and nearly ALL of them having a Klik'N'Play logo or a GameMaker splash screen.

Interestingly, Multimedia Fusion is still rolling. I got MF2 in a Humble Bundle a few years ago and it's nearly exactly the same as the first time I tired it in 99.

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