THC posted:

how long has this complaint been outdated. 6, 7 years? this was only a problem with the original, non-unibody MBPs

theultimo posted:

Unibody is worse FYI the fan isn't powerful enough and apple underclocks

THC posted:

having owned both: you are wrong. again. FYI

THC posted:

also lol @ playig bideo james on a laptop or any other computer

theultimo posted:

http://macperformanceguide.com/AppleCoreRot-intro.html

* OS X is degrading into a base for an entertainment platform. As it stands, the trend is entirely downhill for serious work (albeit a mild grade so far, but steadily downhill nonetheless).

quote:

* Core operating system quality is declining as resources are diverted to software development in more profitable lines: iPhone, iPad, iHaveNoRealWorkToDo products. Apple forgets its history and leaves it core professional base twisting in the wind.

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* We begin to tread in dangerous territory: potential data loss in some cases due to haphazard design and apparently no testing in key areas outside a very narrow scope of usage (“who would make any changes to the awesome setup for novices that we Apple Geniuses provide?”).

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* So-called OS X “upgrades” now consist largely of ill-conceived dilettante eye-candy features that reduce usability, clutter the user interface and introduce scads of new bugs. No true upgrades have occurred for at least two major releases.

Stux posted:

i know literally no people who ever use anything other than built in notes and reminders.

Stux posted:

completely untrue


el capitan is literally the best iteration of osx ever made by a long shot.


made up data loss, made up lack of testing, more outright lies


the last two upgrades were a combo of features, bug fixes and a massive reduction in clutter and increases in usability

this is a list of things that looks like someone who has never used osx in their life wrote

Stux posted:

lol that article was written during mountain lion lmao

echinopsis posted:

Stux..... more like sux

Larry Parrish posted:

I use the Inbox app instead of Mail, and Google instead of Siri or Search or whatever the gently caress its called.

theultimo posted:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-apple-users-really-hate-apple-software-20160208-column.html

There always have been two great virtues in Apple's policy of keeping the development of hardware and core software in-house: their seamless integration with each other and their quality.

Lately, however, these virtues have started to disappear. The last few weeks have seen an explosion of discontent with the quality of the core apps of Apple's iPhones, iPads and Mac computers -- not only its OS X and iOS operating systems, but programs and services such as iTunes, Music, iCloud and Photos. Not only do the programs work poorly for many users, but they don't link Apple devices together as reliably as they should. These complaints aren't coming merely from users but several widely followed tech commentators who used to fit reliably in the category of Apple fans.

Walt Mossberg, for one. As a technology reviewer at the Wall Street Journal and subsequently co-founder of the tech news site Re/code, Mossberg consistently rallied in favor of Apple products. Steve Jobs reportedly once slammed a problem-plagued rollout of a new service by shouting, "Mossberg, our friend, is no longer writing good things about us."

But just last week, Mossberg pointed to "a gradual degradation in the quality and reliability of Apple’s core apps." He fingered iTunes for the desktop ("I dread opening the thing"), and the Mail, Photos, and iCloud programs. Not even Mossberg could get a cogent response from Apple, which told him: "We have dedicated software teams across multiple platforms. The effort is as strong there as it has ever been."

Veteran Apple-watchers John Gruber and Jim Dalrymple have joined the chorus. General tech consumer sites such as Engadget have taken notice that Apple has been pushing new apps that consumers don't want or use, while its traditional programs have yielded to better offerings by non-Apple developers. "Raise your hand if you have a folder on your iPhone full of native Apple apps you never use ... yup, that's a lot of you," Engadget's Nathan Ingraham wrote last week. "Now raise your hand if you use iCloud Mail, iCloud Drive or the default iOS Notes or Reminders apps instead of third-party options like Gmail, Dropbox, Wunderlist, Evernote and so on. Not nearly as many of you are raising your hand this time."

Conjectures about why Apple can't get its software act together abound. The most common is that the company has become so trapped in its cycle of annual hardware upgrades -- a new iPhone had better appear every September, or else -- that it's simply incapable of keeping its software maintained. Programmer Marco Arment, in a widely-read comment last year, speculated that "the rapid decline of Apple’s software is a sign that marketing is too high a priority at Apple today: having major new releases every year is clearly impossible for the engineering teams to keep up with while maintaining quality. ... They’re doing too much, with unrealistic deadlines."

Others wonder if Apple isn't running into the same problem that bedeviled its arch-rival Microsoft for years: It's building new functions on top of an outdated core, rather than scrapping the core and rebuilding from scratch. This process turned Microsoft Windows into a barnacled monstrosity, and the same thing could be happening with OS X and iOS.

Programming veterans know that turning out glitch-free software can be the most onerous task in any organization. IBM project manager Frederick Brooks showed in his classic 1975 book, "The Mythical Man-Month," that adding manpower to a software project only slowed it down, and the search for a "silver bullet" to improve software productivity was fruitless.

It's doubtful that Apple's millions of devoted users, locked into its interoperable ecosystem of Macs, iPhones, and iPads, will think about abandoning the company any time soon. But new phone, tablet, and laptop customers may be taking a closer look at alternatives, including Google Android-powered units as well as Microsoft devices, than they might have only a couple of years ago.

The risk for Apple is that, hounded into keeping its hardware products secure at the top of the consumer pyramid, its reputation is changing from a company whose software "just works" (as Steve Jobs used to declare) to one that just doesn't give a drat.

echinopsis posted:

Stux..... more like sux

carry on then posted:

I will say this flat out: if you own or have owned any Apple product, you are not a logical person and your intelligence is in question.

Shaggar posted:

none of this is new and people are finally realizing how bad apple software has been all along.

theultimo posted:

triple sulk posted:

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/09/belkin-screen-protectors-apple/

lmao

triple sulk posted:

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/09/belkin-screen-protectors-apple/

lmao

triple sulk posted:

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/09/belkin-screen-protectors-apple/

lmao

Polo-Rican posted:

"i'd like to buy the new iphone"

• do you want the 7, the 7s, or the 7se?
• 16gb or 64gb?
• do you want space grey, white, gold, or neon pink?
• if gold: champagne or rose?
• do you want applecare?
• do you want to buy a new pair of BEATS® since this doesn't have a headphone jack?
• If not, do you want the Adaptor® so you can use your existing headphones (please check compatibility list first)?
• do you want us to stretch plastic all over it?

Polo-Rican posted:

"i'd like to buy the new iphone"

• do you want the 7, the 7s, or the 7se?
• 16gb or 64gb?
• do you want space grey, white, gold, or neon pink?
• if gold: champagne or rose?
• do you want applecare?
• do you want to buy a new pair of BEATS® since this doesn't have a headphone jack?
• If not, do you want the Adaptor® so you can use your existing headphones (please check compatibility list first)?
• do you want us to stretch plastic all over it?

triple sulk posted:

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/09/belkin-screen-protectors-apple/

lmao

Polo-Rican posted:

"i'd like to buy the new iphone"

• do you want the 7, the 7s, or the 7se?
• 16gb or 64gb?
• do you want space grey, white, gold, or neon pink?
• if gold: champagne or rose?
• do you want applecare?
• do you want to buy a new pair of BEATS® since this doesn't have a headphone jack?
• If not, do you want the Adaptor® so you can use your existing headphones (please check compatibility list first)?
• do you want us to stretch plastic all over it?

hobbesmaster posted:

you left out the carrier option

they push apple care but do they push accessories now? last iPhone i bought they just asked "anything else?" after apple care