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alcharagia posted:they're not actually that common but at the same time they're not uncommon, you've got when they cry, zero escape, the infinity games, ghost trick, time hollow, shadow of destiny, flower sun and rain, sigma harmonics... man there were a lot of them on the ds zero escape, the infinity games and ghost trick aren't mysteries though and i didn't even play half the others to comment on
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Feb 10, 2016 03:28
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zero escape is totally a mystery
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Feb 10, 2016 03:31
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It's a mystery that people wouldn't consider Zero Escape or Ghost Trick to he mysteries.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:32
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Cake Attack posted:zero escape, the infinity games and ghost trick aren't mysteries though Ghost Trick is totally a mystery. It's a whodunnit and a whoareya surrounding your own murder!
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Feb 10, 2016 03:32
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Suspicious Cook posted:Ghost Trick is totally a mystery. It's a whodunnit and a whoareya surrounding your own murder! oh yeah ghost trick counts.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:33
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Ometeotl posted:It's a mystery that people wouldn't consider Zero Escape or Ghost Trick to he mysteries. I dunno about Zero Escape. The games have a lot of mysteries in them, sure, but if I had to literally classify them I don't think it would be in the "mystery" genre. They're sci-fi thrillers. Ghost Trick is totally a mystery, though.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:37
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And even then, they're still similar types of adventure games. DS was a really good system for people like us, yo. Fake edit: Trace Memory and the Kyle Hyde games were also mysteries, but they did not have timelines. Trace Memories had false memories involved, though. Still good games.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:38
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orenronen posted:I dunno about Zero Escape. The games have a lot of mysteries in them, sure, but if I had to literally classify them I don't think it would be in the "mystery" genre. They're sci-fi thrillers. yeah this is what I was getting at, including Ghost Trick was me being dumb since I forgot part of the premise
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note: i'll take any mystery games because i love the genre. my actual problem right now is that it feels like my current mystery game options are dangan ronpa or hunt through the bowels of japanese rpg maker indie games, which is a massive shift after- Waffleman_ posted:DS was a really good system for people like us, yo. yeah that
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Feb 10, 2016 03:39
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Waffleman_ posted:Fake edit: Trace Memory and the Kyle Hyde games were also mysteries, but they did not have timelines. Trace Memories had false memories involved, though. Still good games. I've played a lot of Japanese mystery games, and the vast majority of them don't have timelines. But they also haven't been translated, so.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:41
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Dangan ronpa is the Michael Bay reboot of vn mystery games.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:41
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Waffleman_ posted:Fake edit: Trace Memory and the Kyle Hyde games were also mysteries, but they did not have timelines. Trace Memories had false memories involved, though. Still good games. Trace Memory was decent. Hotel Dusk and Last Window were both so good, though. Shame that company went under.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:43
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Well I will give Apollo Justice one thing it has much funnier dialogue then I remember it having Like how Wright tells Apollo to find the white powder hidden in his office, and Apollo is concerned
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Feb 10, 2016 17:27
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Oh, I just realized who the new prosecutor reminds me of: the main character from Turn-A Gundam. You know, the one who's always getting force femmed? Mm.
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Feb 10, 2016 18:17
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Nick is hilariously intense.
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Feb 11, 2016 01:09
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Haifisch posted:More scans are out. The mood matrix is back, to nobody's surprise. Nick and Apollo are double protagonists, eh?
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Feb 11, 2016 01:18
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Phoenix Wright & Apollo Justice: Ace Attorneys
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Feb 11, 2016 01:20
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Eventually they'll go head to head in the Ace Attourney.
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Feb 11, 2016 01:20
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Strange Quark posted:Nick and Apollo are double protagonists, eh? It's looking more and more likely that Athena won't be playable at all. Capcom please. Give me the athena
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Feb 11, 2016 05:22
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Raxivace posted:Even with that, I liked how AA4 handled the adopted daughter thing though, by having Phoenix be the one to take Trucy in at what was arguably his absolute lowest point in the entire franchise. I meant more Dalia Hawthorne and her whole deal, it's very reminiscent of a common plot point in Japanese mystery stories.
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Feb 11, 2016 05:31
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Amppelix posted:It's looking more and more likely that Athena won't be playable at all. When she becomes the number one most popular character in the series she too can get equal billing
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Feb 11, 2016 05:37
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Amppelix posted:It's looking more and more likely that Athena won't be playable at all. She'll probably get one case as the playable character again.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:47
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I really hope they roll out more DLC cases with 6, just some really out there stuff so that ultimately all lawyers get their time to shine and then some.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:01
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I'm really excited to hear Objection 2016 and Apollo's third theme
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Feb 11, 2016 07:08
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:She'll probably get one case as the playable character again. I kinda don't think so because they're pushing the whole two protagonists thing hard, and it'd undermine that if Athena also got a case. Maybe DLC.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:12
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Athena will need to be playable when Apollo gets convicted for murder while Phoenix is overseas. 
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Feb 11, 2016 07:43
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Yeah I think Athena won't get to be playable. But I also think this will be Phoenix last game as a playable character, I think they will try to do what they started with AA:Apollo Justice but gave up because it didn't really work out that well and make Phoenix, in the last case, make Apollo the true attorney who beats the big bad. Since Apollo is now really popular people won't complain so I think that can happen and then the next game can star Apollo and Athena with Pheonix just as a mentor character.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:53
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I'll be really happy if this game is Phoenix's last hurrah as a playable character, but I feel like if they were ever really going to consider moving him out of the spotlight they'd have done it this game after DD's good reception. So I honestly don't see it happen, though it is good at least that they're keeping with the multiple playable characters thing, because I think that worked really well for DD.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:01
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I think people would have reacted less poorly to Phoenix not being playable in AJ if he hadn't been disbarred 10 minutes after the end of AA3 over some bullshit. If he was just the (preferably living) Mia of the game, it would've been fine.
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Feb 11, 2016 08:32
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Actually I looked it up since I was curious, there was a whole two months between the end of AA3 and Phoenix's disbarment!
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Feb 11, 2016 09:59
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I was using hyper brolli.
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IceBorg posted:But I also think this will be Phoenix last game as a playable character, I think they will try to do what they started with AA:Apollo Justice but gave up because it didn't really work out that well and make Phoenix, in the last case, make Apollo the true attorney who beats the big bad. If this is to be Phoenix's last game, I'm wondering if they'll pull a shocking twist and make him the victim of the final case. Then Apollo needs to take up the torch and defend his client without his mentor's help. Of course, since I don't think Capcom would have the cajones to kill off Phoenix Wright, I'm guessing he'll only appear to be the victim, but in the end he'll turn out to be very much alive and swoop in to deliver the final piece of evidence you need to prove the bad guy guilty. The guy does have a habit of getting out of fatal-looking scrapes with only minor injuries. Like that time in the third game he fell off a burning bridge into a gorge, and came out of it with only a cold and no other injuries.
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Feb 11, 2016 12:30
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Hey speaking of old Ace Attorney games, do they ever explain what happened to the diamond in 3? Am I to just assume it got washed away forever in the eagle river?
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Feb 11, 2016 12:47
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voltcatfish posted:Actually I looked it up since I was curious, there was a whole two months between the end of AA3 and Phoenix's disbarment! Edgeworth took down a smuggling ring and solved a presidential assassination and the conspiracy behind it in the span of two months. 
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Feb 11, 2016 12:52
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Edgeworth took down a smuggling ring and solved a presidential assassination and the conspiracy behind it in the span of two months. I thought AAI1 was basically stated to have all occurred in like a week.
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Feb 11, 2016 13:13
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AAI takes place over literally five days, not counting the flashback. Like three weeks later AAI2 happens, this time over a slightly more reasonable span of time, probably approximately two weeks.
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Feb 11, 2016 13:32
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Amppelix posted:AAI takes place over literally five days, not counting the flashback. Like three weeks later AAI2 happens, this time over a slightly more reasonable span of time, probably approximately two weeks. It technically takes place over a couple of decades  .
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Feb 11, 2016 13:45
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Amppelix posted:AAI takes place over literally five days, not counting the flashback. Like three weeks later AAI2 happens, this time over a slightly more reasonable span of time, probably approximately two weeks. Don't the first three cases all take place on more or less the same day? He gets off the plane, gets dragged into the amusement park bullshit, and then the prologue in his office at night or something. What a day
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Needs to be a case where you play as one of the Paynes. Those guys need a break once in awhile.
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