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Onmi posted:Bolding the only part that doesn't sound cool. I initially misread that as Basch having conflicted feelings for Larsa - which made things weird for a second. The lack of a typical romance subplot was interesting in XII - yeah there's Balthier and Chewbacca, but that's an established partnership as opposed to a new romance type thing.
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Is FFX-2 actual hard, or am I just getting old or bad? I am not out of chapter 1 and I am having the feeling that I can only assume the people who didn't understand FF13 had where I can neither damage things fast enough or heal fast enough to feel like I am getting anywhere, whether its boss fights or even random encounters. Is there some aha thing I am missing like I should have been side questing this whole time or something? Part of me wants to assume its a level thing because I am on some robot boss that still hits me every time even with darkness applied but I don't know what else I could have been doing this whole time to get levels besides grinding.
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Feb 10, 2016 01:32
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Fortress would have been awful and the only reason it gets mentioned is because it didn't happen. GRIN's actual development was in the toilet.
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Pesky Splinter posted:I initially misread that as Basch having conflicted feelings for Larsa - which made things weird for a second. Yeah, like early on you get the "Ashe jumps into Vaan's arms literally" so me first time through is going Okay so that's going to become a whole thing. But no, Ashe is crazy and obsessed with revenge and she doesn't really think of anyone in a romantic manner. Like some people think she and Balthier have a romantic plot and it's... I know Fran only really has one area in the game where the plot is focused on her arc, but that doesn't mean she doesn't exist, and it's very obvious they're a couple. It's just not super important to bring up. Basch is focused on his Honor, anything Penelo would have done got left for Revenant Wings, and Vaan is a broken mess of a human being who wants a better life.
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Man, I really want to ask about if grinding out Sephiroth's Quest To Murder Shiva is the only way to get Jenova Cells for his suit. And maybe also if I should swap jobs since I think I'm wrecking as Monk on Solo.
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widespread posted:Man, I really want to ask about if grinding out Sephiroth's Quest To Murder Shiva is the only way to get Jenova Cells for his suit. what?
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baram. posted:what? Oh, sorry. Forgot to mention it's in Final Fantasy Explorers. One of the quests has you killing Shiva again and the reward is a Jenova Cell. The quest-giver's name is just "Long-Haired Samurai".
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Feb 10, 2016 02:56
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Vaan was a good character, and I liked him.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:05
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Fister Roboto posted:Vaan was a good character, and I liked him.  , except "is" and "like" because I'm still playing through. Like yeah he's the designated goof and that's harder to tolerate with voice acting but when he's not loving up he's fine.
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Fister Roboto posted:Vaan was a good character, and I liked him. Also agreed. He actually responds to life like a pretty realistic teenager, without being a total dick about it like Squall. And he tends to get past his issues and mature up pretty fast.
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Feb 10, 2016 03:16
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With all this talk about FF12 it is surely a premonition of the coming FF12 IZJS port. We are ALL going to be Captain Basch von Ronsenburg of Dalmasca.
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Feb 10, 2016 05:30
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not me, i'm never touching FF12 again
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mandatory lesbian posted:not me, i'm never touching FF12 again That's probably for the best, the story doesn't resolve in a satisfying way. If that's your focus, even FF8 is better. Gameplay is too subjective to say much, but I had a lot of fun with FF8, even more than I had with 10.
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zedprime posted:Is FFX-2 actual hard, or am I just getting old or bad? I am not out of chapter 1 and I am having the feeling that I can only assume the people who didn't understand FF13 had where I can neither damage things fast enough or heal fast enough to feel like I am getting anywhere, whether its boss fights or even random encounters. Is there some aha thing I am missing like I should have been side questing this whole time or something? Part of me wants to assume its a level thing because I am on some robot boss that still hits me every time even with darkness applied but I don't know what else I could have been doing this whole time to get levels besides grinding. X-2 can be pretty hard if you don't do any sidequests at all. Of course, it gets much easier if you do any sort of side content or gain extra levels. It also makes a big difference what dresspheres you're using. About the robot boss, Haymaker and Blast Punch never miss. Its regular physical attack is affected by Darkness, but it's not guaranteed to miss either. gigglefeimer fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Feb 10, 2016 06:05
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:That's probably for the best, the story doesn't resolve in a satisfying way. If that's your focus, even FF8 is better. Eh, it resolved satisfying enough for me. It was a total Matsuno ending though. "Congrats, history will never remember what you've done here, Basch needs to live a lie for the rest of his life, everyone Larsa loved is dead, and Ashe has the responsibility of rebuilding her nation now. Also Vaan completely shat upon all of the character development he had to this point, and Penelo was there." Life Persists, and it wont ever remember what you've done, just the populists account.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:08
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To be fair, if you didn't know all the endings like that were by the same guy they'd seem like realistic, if cynical, breaths of fresh air in an entertainment industry full of happy endings.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:11
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Final Fantasy XII is basically my favorite fantasy world hiking simulator. Plot problems aside, that game is loving bursting with graphical details. Rabanastre is a huge bustling city that feels really alive and vibrant, all of the locations are just fantastic and cool. I loved how when it rained in that one grassland area it would flood and create whole new areas to explore. Or that sweet cave that's totally optional, just tucked away in the middle of a field, and you go into this really pretty sandy passage and then it gets darker and hotter and more ominous and then there's danger deep within and you discover this without anyone prompting you or really any reason to do so except you, the player, want to. FF12 has probably the longest stretches of uninterrupted gameplay in any FF since the classic 2-D ones. It's just loving great looking and you all should just get really high and just wander around the sweet island outside the Pharos and check out the sunset on the ocean or go to the Sandsea and hang out on a loving oil rig in a shifting field of semi-liquid sand. Oh poo poo or go explore the spooky forest place, that poo poo was dope, you'd have your party reflected on ribbons of magical fog that randomly passed in front of you, so it's unsettling and awesome looking at the same time. FFXII is great.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:20
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yeah thanks for all the words dude but pretty graphics doesn't make up for how boring it is
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I have somehow still never played XII. It cant be worse than XIII since that had probably the most unlikable cast to ever appear in a FF game. IX is my second favorite though so Im probably just not a good judge of games. 
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Feb 10, 2016 06:37
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Nah people like 9 here, generally.  XII is fairly love/hate, it's worth trying yourself.
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To me XII and XIII have the same problem. The dungeons go on forever and ever and ever. Then you have a short scene and go straight to another over-long dungeon. XII does have more towns but it's still very noticable.
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Feb 10, 2016 06:45
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Everyone in ff12 was pretty cool except for vaan who iirc was literally added last minute to the game because the producers wanted a twinky protagonist. AFAIK basch and ashe were supposed to be the original protags.
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Under the vegetable posted:Everyone in ff12 was pretty cool except for vaan who iirc was literally added last minute to the game because the producers wanted a twinky protagonist. AFAIK basch and ashe were supposed to be the original protags. You are remembering incorrectly. Vaan was the last protagonist added, but they hadn't even drawn anyone when the producers told them to add him. And his name wasn't Vaan when he was created, it was Aqua. Basically they had "Story idea" Producers said "add a pretty boy" and then that was it.
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XII has decent characters, but for me, what makes them work is the localized dialogue and the voice acting. In particular, Gideon Emery (Balthier), Kevin Ferguson (Basch), and Nicole Fantl (Fran) kill it.
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isk posted:XII has decent characters, but what makes them work for me is the localized dialogue and the voice acting. In particular, Gideon Emery (Balthier), Kevin Ferguson (Basch), and Nicole Fantl (Fran) kill it. Seriously it's rarely a game especially at that time, where the voice acting was ruined more by the audio compression than the voice actors being awkward. But it really is that for FFXII, the Audio Compression seriously hampers an amazing performance.
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isk posted:XII has decent characters, but for me, what makes them work is the localized dialogue and the voice acting. In particular, Gideon Emery (Balthier), Kevin Ferguson (Basch), and Nicole Fantl (Fran) kill it. Yeah, despite the bizarre sound level issues, the voice acting somehow manages to be enjoyable regardless. Balthier is just fantastic in every scene, he really is.
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LightReaper posted:FFIX is now out on mobile Screenshots of this actually look much nicer than I expected. Except the text entry screens ew
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zedprime posted:Is FFX-2 actual hard, or am I just getting old or bad? I am not out of chapter 1 and I am having the feeling that I can only assume the people who didn't understand FF13 had where I can neither damage things fast enough or heal fast enough to feel like I am getting anywhere, whether its boss fights or even random encounters. Is there some aha thing I am missing like I should have been side questing this whole time or something? Part of me wants to assume its a level thing because I am on some robot boss that still hits me every time even with darkness applied but I don't know what else I could have been doing this whole time to get levels besides grinding. It's just really badly balanced. Stacking debuffs and buffs makes a lot of bosses a joke, remember that the special dresspheres can usually both debuff and buff and you can spend a chunk of time getting someone to like, -10 attack, -10 defense and yourself to +10 attack and defense and just hit them to death
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So the gently caress is up with "Amarant Coral"? I thought "The Flaming Amarant" was a nickname as a mercenary and didn't have any bearing on his name as a person. E: Haha they mention Tetra Master and loving Jump Rope in the ads. VVV Ah, well then. 
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AlphaKretin posted:So the gently caress is up with "Amarant Coral"? I thought "The Flaming Amarant" was a nickname as a mercenary and didn't have any bearing on his name as a person. His name is Amarant. The Flaming Amarant is his trade name like The Great Houdini or whatever.
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Oh yeah, something else about Vaan's role in 12: He's the other one to see visions from the Dawn Shard.
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AlphaKretin posted:Oh yeah, something else about Vaan's role in 12: He's the other one to see visions from the Dawn Shard. Yup, which is a whole thing, he stops seeing them because he stops being a tool of the Occuria, giving up his desire for revenge and moving on with his life.
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To me FFXII is the precursor to Xenoblade series. It's nowhere near as involved gameplay wise but the world building is excellent and there's genuine feeling of discovery as you stumble on completely optional areas.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:33
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So Vaan's now alright in my books but why is Penelo with the party?
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Golden Goat posted:So Vaan's now alright in my books but why is Penelo with the party?  IIRC she throws out some hand wave about not wanting to be left behind but why that is and why she doesn't bail when poo poo gets more serious is anyone's guess.
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Golden Goat posted:So Vaan's now alright in my books but why is Penelo with the party? The cast would be two women and three men without her and prior to ffxv this simply would not do.
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Feb 10, 2016 15:57
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she's there because larsa has a crush on her
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Larsa and Penelo, sitting in a tree...
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Feb 10, 2016 16:02
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Penelo's cool and has cute pigtails
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Fister Roboto posted:Vaan was a good character, and I liked him. I also liked Cambot
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