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As shown on Smite's stream tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEzVcefs4KQ fix your game, jake
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Ciaphas posted:
Eh, it's fine if you take due diligence to back poo poo up. If you don't, well, that's a lot of time to throw away.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Eh, it's fine if you take due diligence to back poo poo up. If you don't, well, that's a lot of time to throw away. Even coming from Firaxis you should not have to do this sort of thing for a $60 game or know that this needs to be done Surely I'm not alone in thinking this
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I feel like I finally have pod sizes appropriate for my 8-man squad tricked out with mods. e: I forgot to overwatch before I grenaded  
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Maluco Marinero posted:The Grenadier gets that, Demolition, it competes with suppression and afaik is prone to miss or not work so well. I haven't tried it much cause grenades are so much more thorough. Oh right, I just remember suppression being really good in EU/EW so I always take that.
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So, anyone know of/got some good mods to play with yet? Personally I'm a fan of "Show Health Values" which lets me actually read the game's HP bars: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=617015579 Just a little non-intrusive but easy to read counter over someone's cover gauge that shows X/Y health. And of course the "Hidden Potential" mod that I believe a goon in here made: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618826129 Definitely needs more love.
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Mukaikubo posted:Two reasons. First, I did the story missions, generally speaking, as soon as they came up as available, so I finished around August 1st. Second, I might be wrong, but I *think* the XP levels for different ranks go up at the same numbers on different skill levels, so that the smaller pod sizes and number of pods on easy mean you don't rank up as fast. Also, I believe I misremembered: I brought my only two colonels, both grenadiers, a major ranger, a 4th level psi op, a major ranger, and a captain ranger and specialist. -You are severely under geared unless Normal difficulty severely limits alien XP and research. I use explosives exceptionally liberally but I haven't had a problem getting enough materials on Veteran. Pretty sure going in with less than tier 3 guns will end up badly for you. -Exo suits are always useful. I see no reason for predator armor when you have spare exosuits. Even if they are just baseline rockets there are a lot of tricks you can do with it. Never leave spare suits at home. Similarly the spider suit is almost a strict upgrade in my eyes. The grapple hook is so good and lets you extract yourself from so many bad situations or leap in to get the critical flank shots. -Beating EW on classic actually puts you in like the top 5% of people who play XCOM so maybe its just a scaling issue? Hard to say. -Posting the save would be interesting for me atleast
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Also the most amusing bug I've had so far is the game giving Jane Kelly a bio for someone named Juan Carlos.
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Internet Kraken posted:How to break someone out of prison with Xcom tactics; My squad agrees. I had a situation where a couple of Mutons were within a couple of squares of each other at the windows of a fancy building. So I popped a Gas Grenade at them, centered behind them so that it didn't spill out into the street I was planning on walking on soon. Grenade goes off, both Mutons lived but were poisoned, which was the expected outcome. What wasn't was the screams of the dying civilians who were further into the building that I hadn' spotted yet.  ...to which my Grenadier calmly replies "Multiple hostiles eliminated, Commander!" 
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Ciaphas posted:As shown on Smite's stream tonight:
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Alkydere posted:So, anyone know of/got some good mods to play with yet? I've been reading that Hidden Potential actually breaks some other mods. So anyone wanting it should keep that in mind.
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MikeC posted:-You are severely under geared unless Normal difficulty severely limits alien XP and research. I use explosives exceptionally liberally but I haven't had a problem getting enough materials on Veteran. Pretty sure going in with less than tier 3 guns will end up badly for you. Yeah, I'm getting that from the generally horrified reaction to this soldier pool   And again, this was Rookie, not Normal. And I seemed to maybe get one loot drop every 3 or 4 missions. Yuck. And I had plasma rifles; the grenadiers generally weren't using their guns anyway, so I didn't much mind not having their tier three gun. quote:-Exo suits are always useful. I see no reason for predator armor when you have spare exosuits. Even if they are just baseline rockets there are a lot of tricks you can do with it. Never leave spare suits at home. Similarly the spider suit is almost a strict upgrade in my eyes. The grapple hook is so good and lets you extract yourself from so many bad situations or leap in to get the critical flank shots. Yeah, I made sure to put exo suits on both my grenadiers. One had the rocket launcher, one had a shredder gun. The shredder gun is what landed the final blow on the final enemy. quote:-Beating EW on classic actually puts you in like the top 5% of people who play XCOM so maybe its just a scaling issue? Hard to say. I dunno, EU/EW just made a lot more intuitive sense to me about how to get soldiers and skills to work together nicely. Anyway: Do I need to upload anything other than the plain save files for this to work? If not, here's a save from just before doing the Advent Network Tower mission, so you can see the status of my research and production: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3291946/save11_Mukai_Endgame_Rookie And here's a save from literally just before the final room, so you can see what I was working with tactically. I tried it again, and managed to get through the battle only savescumming the last two turns (again, to make the avatar teleport to good spots) and losing two soldiers. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3291946/save12_Mukai_FinalBattle_Rookie Mukaikubo fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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I'm pretty sure I'm losing my game. I've got Warden armor and I'm developing plasma weapons, but I just saw my first Andromedon so the aliens are easily keeping pace with me, and I haven't built the shadow chamber yet. I have two problems. The first is that I am absolutely choked on engineers. I don't have any free at all, I need at least two free to even clear out another space -- although it's a central space, so maybe if I took the temporary hit and pulled the few engineers I have from their postings, once I clear it out I can put a workshop there which will give me more flexibility? Maybe? See, that's what drives me nuts about this game, it's going so badly but I keep thinking there's a chance I can out-think the accursed thing. Second is bigger. All my fights turn into me cowering behind cover, taking bad shots, outnumbered by aliens and getting guys wounded if not killed. I can't put together a decent ambush to save my life. I'm just not fighting well -- it doesn't help that I was ignoring autopsies for a while so I only just got a single mimic beacon. But the aliens are ruining me tactically, and that one's on me. Should I just restart and try to build an advantage, or does this sound like I can claw my way out if I get good at fights again?
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I faced my first Andromedon with mag weapons but I was playing on Veteran so if you're playing on a higher difficulty, things might be different. I was also fortunate enough that only one pod was activated at the time so I could take out the two other ADVENT troops on turn 1 and then use a mimic beacon to distract it.
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Keep going. The penalties for avoiding missions and just waiting a month for extra supplies is relatively slight (aliens will continue to upgrade overall and the Avatar doom clock will advance, but there's a lot of ways to bring it back down). I was SURE my first campaign was borked but choosing to simply fall back and cut my losses saved my campaign. It is doable. There's a reason the evac button exists in missions. As for andromedons: use psionics to mind control them, use armor piercing ammo, flashbang them when the pilot is still alive... there's lots of ways to deal with them. Crowd control tactics are your biggest hurdle in the game. Learning how to make the enemy pay for swarming you is key, and there are a lot of ways to do it. A mind controlled Andromedon can become your best friend. They have a rechargable acid bomb attack! I just finished my first campaign, BTW. I didn't feel OVER pressured by the final room, though it was a pretty exciting fight to be sure. I had to fight smart and economically to last that long, but I did it (hint: bring two psychics who know how to do EVERYTHING).
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Away all Goats posted:Oh right, I just remember suppression being really good in EU/EW so I always take that. It's not that great in this game. Enemies usually just move right away to break suppression and in my experience the reaction fire doesn't have a very high chance of hitting.
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Mr. Whale posted:It's not that great in this game. Enemies usually just move right away to break suppression and in my experience the reaction fire doesn't have a very high chance of hitting. Tbf Suppression didn't seem super useful in EU/EW whenever I used it, mainly on Sectopods courtesy of SHIVs to try and keep their fire off of my actual soldiers. On the other hand people are saying Demolition might not be working right either so 
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Rather Dashing posted:Do I still gather intel when scanning in my home region after selecting another bonus? I have no idea how else I can gather the stuff. Council missions usually grant you a lot of intel, as does certain loot drops that you can research (advent datapads, they're called) as well as Skullmining an Advent trooper. You need to research Skullmining though.
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CapnAndy posted:I'm pretty sure I'm losing my game. I've got Warden armor and I'm developing plasma weapons, but I just saw my first Andromedon so the aliens are easily keeping pace with me, and I haven't built the shadow chamber yet. Well, you can fly back to HQ, put some money into construction bonuses and then speed your way into construction/excavation to free up some engineers with the workshop. Also, if you've already killed an andromedan then autopsy it when you have the chance because that will give you the greatest explosives in the game. As far as ambushes go, don't put all of your guys on overwatch because then things go bad for you if you don't wipe the pod on your turn and most of your soldiers can do better than overwatch shots (with the exception of specialists with Guardian from Major and the Cool Under Pressure ability from the GTS, those guys will just wreck pods when you put them on overwatch). Trading shots is a great way to get killed, so try to push them more aggressively. Explosives are one of the best ways to do this and when in doubt, bring more. I did a big wall of text for someone else who was having a similar problem, but I can go into more detail if you have further questions or if you tell me what kind of soldiers you currently have. The tactical side of things is all about making the most of your tools in order to maximize your advantages and minimize the enemy's contributions.
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Man late game protect the node guerrilla missions are nearly impossible, the node is dead in four turns and it takes me three turns rush to it. Of course I get to smash my head against one to avoid the Avatar project jumping two blocks.
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Tenzarin posted:Does skulljacking a advent captain reset the doomsday clock? Usually no, but doing any of the story mission requirements (including the first time you skulljack an officer) always set back the clock so the first time you do it, go nuts.
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Speedball posted:Usually no, but doing any of the story mission requirements (including the first time you skulljack an officer) always set back the clock so the first time you do it, go nuts. OK so the first time to knock it back, got it.
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I sent a sniper up to the roof of a warehouse the rest of my squad had cleared. He did a double move and activated a pod. He couldn't retreat and nobody could reach him in time to save him from the inevitable shitstorm. My grenadier fired his launcher straight up into the ceiling from inside the building and dropped the entire enemy pod to their deaths. GOTY, grenadiers for most clutch class.
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Kai Tave posted:Tbf Suppression didn't seem super useful in EU/EW whenever I used it, mainly on Sectopods courtesy of SHIVs to try and keep their fire off of my actual soldiers. On the other hand people are saying Demolition might not be working right either so
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Demolition if it hits will give your soldiers a better hit chance. Everytime I used suppression some enemy would just shoot my heavy.
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Mr. Whale posted:It's not that great in this game. Enemies usually just move right away to break suppression and in my experience the reaction fire doesn't have a very high chance of hitting. Suppression isn't about the reaction shot, it's about the negative aim (-50?) the target gets. Also it occasionally destroys cover too. edit: to clarify I typically use suppression on either the last dude or the guy with the most squadmates in range. Overwatch either discourages or prevents the rush up while suprression prevents return fire. Also the enemies are on fire or melting from acid Away all Goats fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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I've had pretty good luck with demolition, eliminates that pesky full cover. Also used it earlier to blow up a car and kill a stun lancer after the scramble.
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Away all Goats posted:Suppression isn't about the reaction shot, it's about the negative aim (-50?) the target gets. Also it occasionally destroys cover too. Right, and the suppressed enemy will likely move to break suppression and then shoot you rather than sit there and shoot you. Grenadiers don't have the best aim, so if they're not super close then they'll probably miss. When you get later into the game there's generally way better things to be doing with your grenadiers than suppression.
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Demolition only destroys cover, it doesn't do any damage. It shouldn't be able to miss. Your operative should, in fact, be able to hit the broad side of a barn.
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WTF... A sectoid just reanimated my mimic beacon. It looks just like the soldier who threw it, instead of the hologram effect, so I was super worried for a sec. "wait, when did Shogun die? This is bullshit! Oh, it's the mimic beacon somehow." Edit: Oh jesus, that mission turned bad real quick. I made it to the Device with no problems, but right afterwards ran into a pod of a muton and 3 loving Codex. On the same turn reinforcements got called in. I just could not put down the Codexes fast enough, they kept getting dodges and cloning. So there were still like 5 of the drat things around on the next turn when the reinforcements arrived. It was a heavy mec, advanced trooper, and shocklancer. managed to take out everything but the mec and slowly mop up the codex, but the mec went on an absolute tear. It crit my highest ranked trooper through full cover and put her into bleedout, then proceeded to murder my sharpshooter. My squad of high level troops started panicking like crazy. On of them ran directly next to the bleeding out soldier and they were both killed by Mec rockets the next turn. So 3 of my best units got killed by one friggin mec. Overall I blame the codex though. those things aren't bad on their own but in numbers they are a huge pain. It caused me to spread out my squad. I guess this is a wakeup call that even though I seem to have stabilized in this campaign I can't play sloppy at all. Edit Edit: Oh god, a retaliation mission immediately triggered afterwards and I just lost my best squad. the rest are all wounded and my B team is largely squaddies. Blisster fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Okay, this is getting ridiculous. I'm into late game stuff... I made a soldier named Kiefer "Big Boss" Sutherland. He is a Ranger, and I gave him 100% Scout-tree skills, regardless of optimization. I also happened to attach a superior laser sight (+crit) and a superior Repeater to his shotgun. He's also using Bluescreen rounds. So far, he has: Executed a Sectopod - full health (his first shot ever - a sign of things to come) Crit a slightly wounded Gatekeeper for 19 damage to kill it. Executed *ANOTHER* Sectopod - full health Killed a got-back-up Andromedon suit with a single crit - full health And just now, executed a Gatekeeper from full health. There is only a single enemy he has, thus far, had to fire more than a single shot at. A full-health Archon I tried to rapid-fire. He crit the first shot for 13 damage, but because it had flown into the air for Blazing Pinions, his accuracy was meh, so he missed the second shot, leaving it at 5 HP. Big Boss, ladies and gentlemen.
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Gatekeepers are horribly obnoxious and I'm not happy that the game has decided every single mission needs one now. VVV Its not that they are dangerous its that they take loving forever to kill Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Feb 10, 2016 |
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Internet Kraken posted:Gatekeepers are horribly obnoxious and I'm not happy that the game has decided every single mission needs one now. Flashbang them or mind control them. Also by the time they start showing up you'd better have some sort of anti-armor abilities.
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Doing my first run on Commander Ironman, Sectoid is around the corner of a building in full cover. I throw a grenade at it, blow up the cover, and suddenly lose line of sight on the Sectoid.  I'm not even mad about it, because that's been a bug since the previous game and it felt like meeting an old friend.
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Internet Kraken posted:Why the hell can't I skull jack a mindcontrolled codex this was supposed to make this part easy Evac(or kill/burn/knock unconscious/disorient/stun) the psyker dominating it. It'll flip back to enemy control but won't get an initial turn.
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