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Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Puistokemisti posted:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/tem_turvapaikanhakijoista_vain_harvalla_edes_ammatillinen_koulutus/8661385
Good news, the immigrants will be a real boom for economy. And by economy, I mean arabian speaking teachers because the immigrants are really loving poorly koulutettu.



Rip the old immigration thread, promising us heart surgeons, venture capitalists and other randian supermen.

yeah, big surprise there

also, there's a new one: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3763554

Hogge Wild fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 9, 2016

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OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Puistokemisti posted:

Rip the old immigration thread, promising us heart surgeons, venture capitalists and other randian supermen.

Maybe half a year ago even in Estonian media there were people saying that this can be a huge economic boost if we take advantage of it. Unsurprisingly, those people have gone quiet in the past few months.

Somewhat topical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvvvomANbRo

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Hogge Wild posted:

Darkcrawler on poistunut keskuudestamme, ilmeisesti koska häpesi Itsenäisyyspäivän yönä kirjoittamaansa kännipostausta liikaa. Sääli sinänsä, mielestäni hän oli hyvä postaaja. Ja kännipostaus on kaikista hauskin tapa postata.

Itse häpeisin enemmän sitä rasisista "vihaan valkoisia esi-isiäni" -vuodatusta viime langasta, mutta voisi kyllä tulla takaisin postaamaan, ilmapiiri on nyt aika ligurimainen ilman vastaanänkkäämistä.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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The thread improves exponentially by putting Ligur on ignore.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Rexroom posted:

The thread improves exponentially by putting Ligur on ignore.

I don't think you know what "improves" means

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Puistokemisti posted:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/tem_turvapaikanhakijoista_vain_harvalla_edes_ammatillinen_koulutus/8661385
Good news, the immigrants will be a real boom for economy. And by economy, I mean arabian speaking teachers because the immigrants are really loving poorly koulutettu.

We need to whip up hundreds of new Arabic-Finnish-English speaking professional teachers. Piece of cake! It also won't cause any issues that the immigrants come from such diverse back grounds, that a class with 20 year olds can have one person who reads and writes English and Arabic, 10 persons who read and write Arabic, 5 persons who poorly read it, and 4 who don't read and write anything at all!

So easy to teach... We also need peruskoulu -level teachers who speak English or Arabic, apparently many of the comers need 5th or 6th grade education. My girlfriends father is a former ground school teacher who now teaches asylum seekers how to count to five :suicide:

Meanwhile let's fire 1200 people from Aalto University because we don't have cash. How in the ever living gently caress more people don't see there is something seriously wrong in everything that is related to this scenario? I'm honestly surprised more people aren't so angry they start fixing up some molotovs or raid Eduskuntatalo.

Also what the gently caress:

quote:

Turvapaikanhakijoiden kotouttaminen vaatii yhteisiä ponnistuksia
Kotouttamiselle on Puiston mukaan suuret tarpeet, sen edistämiseksi on perustettu poikkihallinnollisia työryhmiä.
– Kotouttamispolitiikassa on myös uusia virtaviivaisia ajatuksia. Turvapaikanhakijoista valtaosa tulee aika väkivaltaisista olosuhteista. Siitä poisoppimisessa on sarkaa ja sen täytyykin onnistua, Puisto painottaa.
Even if we could integrate any meaningful number, which we can't, why should we? These people aren't migrants who moved here, they are asylum seekers just waiting to get back home when it calms down, right? Or if not, then do not treat them as such. Treat them as regular migrants.

Oh and violent, misogynist conditions where women are not allowed to hang around unescorted or without a veil... well, some aunt who works at the VOK telling these young bucks violence and harassment ain't ok through a translator will surely immediately change the way they think. :allears:

How can people be so unfailingly naive, stupid, and ignorant of any history pertaining to "asylum seeking" based migration, it's consequences and how well it has gone this far... Ainoa järkevä selitys minkä keksin on, että toimittajiemme otollisella avustuksella turhan moni on kuvitellut, ettei mitään ikäviä juttuja olekaan vaan ne on kaikki vaikkapa halla-aholaistan keksimää vihapuhetta. Vittu luulis silmien jo aukeavan.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Darkest Auer posted:

I don't think you know what "improves" means

I don't think you know what "improves" means

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



Rexroom posted:

The thread improves exponentially by putting Ligur on ignore.

lol go back to scandipol you loving pussy

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No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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HerraS posted:

lol go back to scandipol you loving pussy

I'd like to debate with real people than with lost causes. Just call it not wasting energy on nothing. :v:

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Finland is a lost cause.

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures

Rexroom posted:

The thread improves exponentially by putting Ligur on ignore.

First you pick the worst sister and then this? You just keep making terrible choices.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
LOL I get ragged on and called out by ligurs if I post and I get ragged on and called out by ligurs if I don't. Make up your minds.

I still read the thread but I don't argue online anymore (anywhere, not just SA) If I go to whine online on drunken autopilot enough is enough.

Besides arguments all that this thread does anymore is to compete about who is more jaded and oh boy do you guys got that covered without me or what?

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



Rexroom posted:

I'd like to debate with real people than with lost causes. Just call it not wasting energy on nothing. :v:

oletko ikinä miettinyt että kaikkeen mitä ligur postaa ei oo pakko vastata? addiktioista kannattaa puhua jonkun auktoriteettihahmon kanssa, esim. isän

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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HerraS posted:

oletko ikinä miettinyt että kaikkeen mitä ligur postaa ei oo pakko vastata? addiktioista kannattaa puhua jonkun auktoriteettihahmon kanssa, esim. isän

Hey, it's a free country. Or at least this forum is home to one.

hillo
Dec 19, 2012

by zen death robot

Ligur posted:

Also what the gently caress:

Even if we could integrate any meaningful number, which we can't, why should we? These people aren't migrants who moved here, they are asylum seekers just waiting to get back home when it calms down, right?

Has that ever been a thing in Finland though?

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
When you've seen one ligurpost you've seen them all.

In other news, turns out that the whole pizzeria tax evasion investigation was a complete flop and produced absolutely nothing: http://yle.fi/uutiset/mita_kuuluu_poliisin_kuuden_euron_pizzakampanjalle__yksikaan_pizzeria_ei_karahtanyt/8660426

Our police might have a serious credibility problem.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
In your eyes perhaps, most normal people do not give a poo poo about that pizza episode after the initial laughs.

Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Ligur posted:

In your eyes perhaps, most normal people do not give a poo poo about that pizza episode after the initial laughs.

lol

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

The police haven't been credible to anyone except old Kokoomus-voters since like the seventies I guess? Except now that most cops are literally nazis, non-police nazis have also taken a liking to them.

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Feb 17, 2011

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The police are under intense pressure lately, what with cuts on personnel, tighter budgets and so on. Hell, even mall cops are doing investigations for them, which is good I guess, since sometimes the cops can't even finish investigations before the crime expires. Maybe this newest crisis will see some improvement.

Or maybe the free market will fix the issue. :v:

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Rexroom posted:

since sometimes the cops can't even finish investigations before the crime expires

Yeah, this doesn't actually happen

PineappleGod
Feb 12, 2008
The Pineapple God has returned

Rexroom posted:

The police are under intense pressure lately, what with cuts on personnel, tighter budgets and so on. Hell, even mall cops are doing investigations for them, which is good I guess, since sometimes the cops can't even finish investigations before the crime expires. Maybe this newest crisis will see some improvement.

Or maybe the free market will fix the issue. :v:

Maybe we should sell the governments monopoly on the use of force to international investors. I'm sure we could raise a few billion that way, then the free market will prevail and make cops much better and crime non-existent. Well non-existent in that you would have to pay the police to investigate your crime, therefore crime rates would go down.

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures

Darkest Auer posted:

Yeah, this doesn't actually happen

Either that or syyttäjä deciding for reason x to sit on the case until it expires are things that happen. Most of the cases I have heard of it happening are talousrikokset. :shrug:

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Feb 17, 2011

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Darkest Auer posted:

Yeah, this doesn't actually happen

Tell that to Hanna Mäntylä (TF), who was suspected of fraud but got away when the case was sent back and forth between departments so long the court ruled the crime as expired. Or actually, don't.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



jos olisitte ite ikinä nähny talousrikouksen tutkintapöytäkirjaa ymmärtäisitte miks niissä menee niin vitun kauan

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

HerraS posted:

jos olisitte ite ikinä nähny talousrikouksen tutkintapöytäkirjaa ymmärtäisitte miks niissä menee niin vitun kauan

Is it because it's full of prominent politicians' names so they have to stall?

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Rexroom posted:

Tell that to Hanna Mäntylä (TF), who was suspected of fraud but got away when the case was sent back and forth between departments so long the court ruled the crime as expired. Or actually, don't.

This was an yksittäistapaus that we all made fun of in the last thread. It doesn't happen to normal people.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



for real the last group of people on earth the finnish police care about is finnish politicians

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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There's a new party in town: National Whiskey Party. They managed to get enough membership cards written. From what I've heard - and apparently they accept donations in bitcoins - they're libertarian. Some party founders are even from the Pirate Party.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.
nyt katsotaan kuinka he saavat kolme promillea ensi vaaleissa

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

Triple A posted:

Sosiaaliturvareformi on välttämätön

Suomen sosiaaliturva pitää välittömästi ulottaa yhdenvertaisesti myös pätkätyöläisiin ja yrittäjiin. Kannustinloukut on purettava joko perustulolla, perustilillä tai nykyjärjestelmää parantamalla esimerkiksi kehittämällä tulon suojaosaa. Työttömien asemaa tulee parantaa byrokratiaa yksinkertaistamalla ja karenssiajat poistamalla. Järkevä sosiaaliturva parantaa palkansaajan asemaa työmarkkinoilla merkittävästi.


Doesn't sound libertarian to me.

doverhog fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Feb 10, 2016

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Feb 17, 2011

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doverhog posted:

Doesn't sound libertarian to me.

That's just their election program for 2015. They seem to have as their central principles "decision-making based on reason" (as opposed to those based on non-reason?) and "liberation/freedom." They don't appear that libertarian - that bitcoin threw me off a bit - but they show a general distaste for the nanny-state, so... errr... they're liberal. At least.

By the way, if the party name is any indication, they're (c)overtly trying to throw off the shackles of Alko - which they mention as an "unnatural monopoly" in their election program - but I suspect they're more for the (sub)urban civilized ironic bum, rather than the unironic alcoholic bum. Don't believe me? Check out their video.

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Jan 20, 2007

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DarkCrawler posted:

LOL I get ragged on and called out by ligurs if I post and I get ragged on and called out by ligurs if I don't. Make up your minds.

I still read the thread but I don't argue online anymore (anywhere, not just SA) If I go to whine online on drunken autopilot enough is enough.

Besides arguments all that this thread does anymore is to compete about who is more jaded and oh boy do you guys got that covered without me or what?

am i a ligur?

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

might as well vote for one of these joke libertarian parties. It's not like the current parties are gonna achieve anything. Pave's new party is also a possible candidate right now.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦

DarkCrawler posted:

Besides arguments all that this thread does anymore is to compete about who is more jaded and oh boy do you guys got that covered without me or what?

I pledge to only serious post if any in this thread until the start of June.


Any resident ligurs and others too should check out

http://www.soininvaara.fi/2016/02/06/turvapaikkapolitiikkaa-pitaisi-jarkevoittaa/

http://www.soininvaara.fi/2016/02/07/ajatuksia-uudesta-pakolaissopimuksesta/

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
venäjä päästää lisää pohjois-afrikkalaisia suomeen: http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1455247089156.html

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Hogge Wild posted:

venäjä päästää lisää pohjois-afrikkalaisia suomeen: http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1455247089156.html

Nature's way of thinning the wandering muslim hordes.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Finally those goddamn fat cat exploiters feel the sting of our unfair modern economic system:
http://www.hs.fi/talous/a1455336812645?ref=hs-art-luetuimmat-#13

Whoops wrong link:
http://www.hs.fi/talous/a1455418487399?ref=hs-art-luetuimmat-2

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1455414541337.html

mietiskelyä venäjältä tulevasta porukasta

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Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
muutama kuukausi sitte mietiskelin täällä tai edellisessä samaa mutta konsensus oli ettei voi olla mahdollista. mitäs mä sanoin :smug:

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