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Hispanic! At The Disco
Dec 25, 2011


Random Words posted:

Also take a moment to appreciate the way it's cut off on either side. That just adds to it, I think.

That was hardly the first clue that the image maker has a narrow viewpoint.

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Duey
Sep 5, 2004

Hi
Nap Ghost

Random Words posted:

I'm just sharing the picture in this case because I've seen it posted five times on my Facebook and really, do you want to see the comments on this?



Paying for kids is annoying isn't it? Why don't they just get a job!

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
It's almost like you shouldn't have kids you don't fully intend to support until they reach adulthood :ssh:

Random Words
Jan 21, 2015

goose fleet posted:

It's almost like you shouldn't have kids you don't fully intend to support until they reach adulthood :ssh:

But forcing men to wear condoms is RAPE!

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice


Great aunt's at it again. I touched the poop by asking "What do the Black Panthers believe? What does the KKK believe?" so we'll see if that does ANYTHING AT ALL.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Buzkashi posted:



Great aunt's at it again. I touched the poop by asking "What do the Black Panthers believe? What does the KKK believe?" so we'll see if that does ANYTHING AT ALL.

Black Panthers believe the White race must be wiped off the face of the earth. KKK just want to ensure that there is room on Gods green earth to allow the proud traditions of white people to live on.

PUGGERNAUT
Nov 14, 2013

I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD

SpliffClavin posted:

Your rape-baby might grow up to be in the Military, so stop being so loving selfish.



quote:

Pregnancy is temporary

http://www.piedmont.org/living-better/long-term-effects-of-pregnancy-women-dont-talk-about posted:

Bladder dropping.The vaginal wall supports the bladder. Childbirth puts stress on this wall, potentially causing long-term damage. Later in life, it is not uncommon for the vaginal wall to essentially cave in, causing the bladder to drop into the vagina.

Stress incontinence. When the vaginal wall collapses, this triggers a domino effect. Not only do the bladder, urethra and rectum shift into the vagina, but this also puts added pressure on the bladder, causing leakage. This leakage, known as stress incontinence, can occur with any added exertion or when laughing, sneezing or coughing.

Rectocele. During childbirth, it is also possible to tear the rectovaginal septum, which separates the rectum and vagina. Rectal tissue can then bulge through this opening, similar to a hernia. Women who deliver large babies (weighing more than 9 pounds) or those who have quick deliveries are more susceptible to this condition.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/dec/10/torn-apart-by-childbirth posted:

Mel had her first baby two years ago. It was a textbook pregnancy, and today her son is a happy, healthy toddler. But for Mel, the baby's delivery changed everything. She is doubly incontinent; sex is difficult and painful; she rarely goes out socially, and she has only been able to return to work in the last two months.

Her baby's difficult delivery caused an obstetric fistula – a fissure, or hole, between her rectal and vaginal passages. She also suffered nerve damage and her brain no longer registers the signals when she needs to urinate or empty her bowels: in the long term she may need a colostomy.

https://godlessfeminist.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/the-truth-about-giving-birth-what-pro-lifers-dont-want-women-and-girls-to-know/ posted:

Internal damage from pregnancy and birth to the parasympathetic nerve system, tendons and ligaments that buttress the pelvic organs and muscles; severe tears and episiotomies, and permanent damage to the bladder, anal sphincter, genital tract region and coccyx tailbone; leave many women with permanent pain, a permanently damaged body that never fully recovers, and a significant probability of diminishing their future ability to fully enjoy sex.

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Nebrilos
Oct 9, 2012

goose fleet posted:

It's almost like you shouldn't have kids you don't fully intend to support until they reach adulthood :ssh:

While I believe that child support needs to exist in some form, I was reading about a case where a woman raped a man (he was blackout drunk and she was sober), got pregnant, sued for child support, and won. So I don't think your attitude is called for.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Buzkashi posted:



Great aunt's at it again. I touched the poop by asking "What do the Black Panthers believe? What does the KKK believe?" so we'll see if that does ANYTHING AT ALL.

Keep us posted! I am interested to see if she responds.


Nebrilos posted:

While I believe that child support needs to exist in some form, I was reading about a case where a woman raped a man (he was blackout drunk and she was sober), got pregnant, sued for child support, and won. So I don't think your attitude is called for.

My irony meter is broken, so I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Please advise.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

cash crab posted:

Keep us posted! I am interested to see if she responds.


My irony meter is broken, so I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Please advise.

this is a thing that has really happened, hosed up as it is.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Child support is definitely one of those grey areas where a lot of people (feminists included) think that shady poo poo goes on with it. The most prominent being that courts tend to have an inherent bias toward mothers over fathers in terms of custody and demanding child support payments.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Nebrilos posted:

While I believe that child support needs to exist in some form, I was reading about a case where a woman raped a man (he was blackout drunk and she was sober), got pregnant, sued for child support, and won. So I don't think your attitude is called for.

We disagree on which house is on fire. In 2014, 14 men died on the job for every woman that died on the job. Men are committing suicide at a rate of 4 to 1 over women. The divorce process is so stacked against men, that after divorce men are committing suicide at a rate of 10 to 1 in some areas. According to the CDC men are being raped by women (forced to penetrate) at the same rates as women are being raped by men (penetrated). Nothing is being done to help male victims. So, for the time being, we're going to disagree on which house is on fire. But that's ok, because me working for equality for men doesn't detract from you working for equality for women. Both end in equality. Which is the goal of both.

Cumslut1895
Feb 18, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Lottery of Babylon posted:

We disagree on which house is on fire. In 2014, 14 men died on the job for every woman that died on the job. Men are committing suicide at a rate of 4 to 1 over women. The divorce process is so stacked against men, that after divorce men are committing suicide at a rate of 10 to 1 in some areas. According to the CDC men are being raped by women (forced to penetrate) at the same rates as women are being raped by men (penetrated). Nothing is being done to help male victims. So, for the time being, we're going to disagree on which house is on fire. But that's ok, because me working for equality for men doesn't detract from you working for equality for women. Both end in equality. Which is the goal of both.

this isn't anywhere near as hosed up as what you normally post

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Cumslut1895 posted:

this isn't anywhere near as hosed up as what you normally post

We've heard their excuses me for, their ideology is based on nothing more than lies which is why the most unlikely people have banded together to call them out on it. I know it can be absolutely despairing to read their bullshit but it's nothing you should worry yourself over.

Following this persons 'house on fire' analogy, this idiot is so delusional he's believing that there's a raging fire going on right in front of him and completely neglecting to notice that a bunch of people are dead and there's a smoldering ruin next to him.

Feminists use this tactic constantly to silence any thought that would cause them to question their questionable belief system. Which is basically any logical thought.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Lottery of Babylon posted:

We've heard their excuses me for, their ideology is based on nothing more than lies which is why the most unlikely people have banded together to call them out on it. I know it can be absolutely despairing to read their bullshit but it's nothing you should worry yourself over.

Following this persons 'house on fire' analogy, this idiot is so delusional he's believing that there's a raging fire going on right in front of him and completely neglecting to notice that a bunch of people are dead and there's a smoldering ruin next to him.

Feminists use this tactic constantly to silence any thought that would cause them to question their questionable belief system. Which is basically any logical thought.

That's better.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

chitoryu12 posted:

That's better.

It would be ridiculous to say "We shouldn't have to teach people to keep their personal information private, we should teach people not to commit identity theft!" So why is such logic used for rape?

Feminists get angry whenever there's any sort of campaign educating women on avoiding rape BECAUSE, they say, the campaign should instead focus on teaching men not to rape.

But why? When compared to any other crime, it seems ridiculous. Nobody would ever say we should teach murderers not to kill, they'd instead agree that it makes more sense to teach the general public on how to avoid dangerous encounters in high crime areas.

Why is rape the one crime that's different?

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Men are (successfully) committing suicide at a rate of 4 to 1 over women.

Attempts are an even split between genders, or near enough. Success rates depends on the culture you're in. In Asia where the most common method for a man to kill himself is by hanging, combined with the limited privacy in living spaces, they are a lot less successful in attempt than women who tend to jump off tall buildings. Where in the USA it's guns for men and pills for women it allows for the woman to be found and medical attention provided, greatly reducing the success rate for women.

This means that it's not a misandry problem. If you genuinely cared about this as an issue it is something you would already know. So either you are cherry picking stats to prove a point or are an idiot who shouldn't have a say on matters that count.

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

1 part gin
1 part pomegranate syrup
Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice
"treated old glory like a stained blue dress" :laffo:

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Malkin is a wretched harpy and the best part of the passing of the Bush era was never having to see her face again

snoo
Jul 5, 2007





I just want to mention that they don't really teach any of this in sex ed (along with a lot of other things), even in my state where we had not-abstinence sex ed. Pregnancy is really hard on the body and I feel like a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of it. I really wish there were better resources and education for people who want to get pregnant, so they can be semi-prepared for it.

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story

Birb Katter posted:

Black Panthers believe the White race must be wiped off the face of the earth. KKK just want to ensure that there is room on Gods green earth to allow the proud traditions of white people to live on.

I'm not super knowledgeable about the black panthers, but a lot of people seem to confuse stuff they did with stuff the FBI said they did.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Nebrilos posted:

While I believe that child support needs to exist in some form, I was reading about a case where a woman raped a man (he was blackout drunk and she was sober), got pregnant, sued for child support, and won. So I don't think your attitude is called for.

And one time a dude was sent to jail for a crime he didn't even commit. End all jails now!

chitoryu12 posted:

Child support is definitely one of those grey areas where a lot of people (feminists included) think that shady poo poo goes on with it. The most prominent being that courts tend to have an inherent bias toward mothers over fathers in terms of custody and demanding child support payments.

No, that's totally incorrect. If you look plainly at the number of people who have custody, you see that yes women have it more often. But what everyone who shits themselves over that fact misses is that in the majority of cases women get custody because men don't fight for it (since after all, women are caregivers, right?). In cases where both parents fight over it, it is heavily weighted towards the father, even if he has a history of being abusive to the mother or child.

several friends
Apr 7, 2015

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Jesus I can't get over their stupid "Hitler was a Democrat socialist" argument. It's just so loving dumb.

Also for some reason the page name "iPhone conservative" makes me chuckle.

EvilGenius
May 2, 2006
Death to the Black Eyed Peas

SpliffClavin posted:

Your rape-baby might grow up to be in the Military, so stop being so loving selfish.



Yeah, selfish mother, killing a baby because she was 'a bit sad'.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Fathis Munk posted:

Jesus I can't get over their stupid "Hitler was a Democrat socialist" argument. It's just so loving dumb.

Also for some reason the page name "iPhone conservative" makes me chuckle.

Same people who get pissy when you call the US a democracy instead of a republic.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Nebrilos posted:

While I believe that child support needs to exist in some form, I was reading about a case where a woman raped a man (he was blackout drunk and she was sober), got pregnant, sued for child support, and won. So I don't think your attitude is called for.

Courts want what's best for the child. It's like those cases where a woman gets pregnant, claims guy X is the father, and he finds out a couple of years later he isn't. The woman engaged in fraud, but no judge is going to let the supposed father off the hook because that's what's best for the child.

Which makes guys who help lesbian friends have babies without solid legal contracts all the more funny. At least the sad sap in my first example got to have sex before he was stuck with 18 years of child support.

robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

Clever Betty
Courts are rough and routinely side with the mother. On top of that, going on and fighting about custody/child support is a giant pain in the rear end. I make a lot more than my son's mother, but I don't begrudge her or the system for having to pay support. I wish I had more control over what she does with that money, but that's not the way things work. There was a time when I could have pursued full custody, but the odds of that working out in my favor were low because nothing was "wrong" with his living arrangements at the time.

A lot of guys feel pretty helpless in the matter because there isn't a lot you can do other than pay the money and take whatever visitation you're given. Dealing with the court is time consuming, frustrating, difficult, and expensive.

pastor of muppets
Aug 21, 2007

We were somewhere around the Living Hive, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

My brother-in-law has officially gone from far-left Berniebro to pro-Trump redneck in less than six months.

In an odd role reversal, green is his dad (a Navy veteran.)




"I know what I'm sharing is mostly bullshit but"

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Birb Katter posted:

The lifetime of the mother being reminded of the fact that she was raped every time she sees him is why she was a distant mother so while he wasn't there for the rape it was a constant factor in his formative years.

So really the mother is at fault for being distant!



The list has only 7 Countries on it

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Fried Watermelon posted:

The list has only 7 Countries on it

:golfclap:

I love how "without the liberal bias" mostly just means "made the gently caress up".

Alien Arcana
Feb 14, 2012

You're related to soup, Admiral.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Courts only grant custody to the mother more often when you include cases where only one parent is asking for custody. When you look at only cases where both ask for custody the father is more likely to get it. :eng101:

FAROOQ
Aug 20, 2014

by Smythe
That's probably selection bias, as only those fathers most likely to be awarded custody would be advised by their lawyers to seek it :eng101:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Europeans must think America is some kind of ThunderDome with all our crime, but that Facebook image does make a kind of point in that most of our crime is isolated to certain areas in certain states. New Hampshire has a crime rate similar to modern-day Germany whereas the murder rate in Louisiana is more like Germany circa 1945.

FAROOQ posted:

That's probably selection bias, as only those fathers most likely to be awarded custody would be advised by their lawyers to seek it :eng101:

Every father I know with sole custody of his kids has an ex-wife who received sole custody of her drugs.

Which I know means absolutely nothing statistically, but I think it'll hold up to peer review.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

pastor of muppets posted:

My brother-in-law has officially gone from far-left Berniebro to pro-Trump redneck in less than six months.

In an odd role reversal, green is his dad (a Navy veteran.)




"I know what I'm sharing is mostly bullshit but"

I got curious and decided to do the math. The United States had 3.8 murders per 100,000 people (12,253 total), putting them at 121 out of 216 on the list (though this is a bit deceptive as the bottom half of the list has increasingly smaller differences, to the point where countries 191 and 204 have a difference of only 0.1 murders while the difference between 1 and 2 is 30.6 murders). Murder rates for cities:

Detroit: 43.5 (298)

Chicago: 15.1 (460)

Washington, DC: 15.9 (105)

New Orleans: 39.6 (150)

That's a total of 1,013 murders in 2014 between all four cities. Eliminating those cities entirely from the list would bring the US murder total to roughly 11,240 (I had to use 2013 numbers for the national murder rate compared to 2014 for the individual cities). US population in 2013 was 316.5 million, divide by 100,000 to get 3,165. That's a rate of 3.5 murders per 100,000, which would bring us to....#128 on the list.

What's impressive is that even the "third in murders" part that makes the US look awful is made up entirely for the picture. Literally every part of that is fictional.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

chitoryu12 posted:

I got curious and decided to do the math. The United States had 3.8 murders per 100,000 people (12,253 total), putting them at 121 out of 216 on the list (though this is a bit deceptive as the bottom half of the list has increasingly smaller differences, to the point where countries 191 and 204 have a difference of only 0.1 murders while the difference between 1 and 2 is 30.6 murders). Murder rates for cities:

Detroit: 43.5 (298)

Chicago: 15.1 (460)

Washington, DC: 15.9 (105)

New Orleans: 39.6 (150)

That's a total of 1,013 murders in 2014 between all four cities. Eliminating those cities entirely from the list would bring the US murder total to roughly 11,240 (I had to use 2013 numbers for the national murder rate compared to 2014 for the individual cities). US population in 2013 was 316.5 million, divide by 100,000 to get 3,165. That's a rate of 3.5 murders per 100,000, which would bring us to....#128 on the list.

What's impressive is that even the "third in murders" part that makes the US look awful is made up entirely for the picture. Literally every part of that is fictional.

Those numbers are a little misleading also because even in a hell-hole like Chicago, most of the city is relatively safe. So saying there are 15 murders per 100k people - while technically correct, is still not a great indicator of the crime rate. It's probably 1 or 2 murders per 100k for the 50% of people who live in nice areas and 30 per 100k in poor neighborhoods.

Which just goes to show how absolutely horrible it is living in those poorer areas and why mixed income housing is so important.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Deceitful Penguin posted:

Bruce Springsteen you say.

Unrelated idiocy:


I love checking my other messages and reading about how I'm a latte-drinking woolen sweater wearing lefty in a café or the University, then him threating me with violence.

You forgot to translate for all us dumb English-only goons [me]

Clockwork Sputnik
Nov 6, 2004

24 Hour Party Monster

china bot posted:

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vertical crawling

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Jan 19, 2007

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pastor of muppets posted:

My brother-in-law has officially gone from far-left Berniebro to pro-Trump redneck in less than six months.

In an odd role reversal, green is his dad (a Navy veteran.)




"I know what I'm sharing is mostly bullshit but"

Love that the picture they're using to say "gun control is bad" is showing her finger(s) on the trigger.

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