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Met my first Andromedon thingy. It, um, ended badly. Half my squad is severely wounded, and one of my two high ranked grenadiers died.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:01
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"HOORAY WE KILLED THE HORRIBLE MONSTER!" "Wait wha... FUUUUCK"
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Feb 11, 2016 06:03
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Internet Kraken posted:I'd never take salvo on the other hand. A guaranteed shot is way to useful for shredding enemies like gatekeepers. Being able to fire two explosives in one turn is nice but you can only do that what, once per mission since you'll be out of grenades anyways. With Salvo you can fire a grenade and then shoot/chain shot/rupture/whatever, you don't need to shoot grenades with the second action. It also works with heavy weapons, and powered heavy weapons are brutally, game-changingly powerful.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:07
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SynthOrange posted:"HOORAY WE KILLED THE HORRIBLE MONSTER!" Yeah, that pretty much summed it up. Luckily most everything else was cleaned up by then so I was able to finish it off the next turn, but drat, that thing sucked.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:09
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Starting my second Ironman Commander attempt after the first one went south, this one is going way better and I've decided to kick it oldschool and rush laser research (mag weapons, whatever) and the game has already given me two scientists to accommodate this lofty goal. Once I'm done researching those and discover I can't build them for whatever reason I can attempt to catch up on the plot research and probably fail catastrophically. Also had my first Flawless rank mission, slowly getting the hang of things again. Really need a Specialist to spend more than one mission out in the field though, I can't get a feel for what they do very well because they're always dying.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:12
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I was doing my first UFO mission, fairly far into it. My psy-op dominated a Muton, and that turn I got the "shut down the beacon or the aliens show up" message, so I walked the Muton over to it thinking he'd be able to press the button. He couldn't, but it turns out dropping a grenade on himself does a pretty good job of shutting it down!
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Feb 11, 2016 06:18
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Man, Legend is just relentless Aliens seem to show up at normal times but you can't get mag weapons or tier 2 armor until like month 3 even if you rush it...and the missions are so rough with the extra pod they throw in there. Everyone gets 'gravely wounded' at the slightest damage and I've had probably 30 soldier deaths total playing xcom and never seen a single bleed out timer. High on my list of things to mod are: - flashbang reduces crit by a lot. currently doesn't affect crit at all - smoke radius increased a bit...right now smoke really, really sucks - increase bleed out chance to xcom 1 levels - slightly increase shotgun range penalty so that it isn't only -10 aim at max range - massively increase close range bonus so that adjacent tile flanking shots are 100% chance to hit
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Feb 11, 2016 06:21
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I kinda don't get the point of the Andromedon. Why did the aliens make it? The suit works just fine as an enforcer.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:23
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The plasma pistol design reminds me of this: I'd be 110% happy having the T1 revolver just shooting plasma.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:24
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Grapplejack posted:I kinda don't get the point of the Andromedon. Why did the aliens make it? The suit works just fine as an enforcer. It's been years, like every development they've made outside of ADVENT is some nerd gently caress of an alien going 'wouldn't it be cool if we had like a big ol' tank that punched people and had both a pilot AND a AI controlling it?' or 'what if we gave our sectopods like 30 foot legs that were strong enough it could just walk through buildings without slowing down?'
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Feb 11, 2016 06:31
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Count Uvula posted:It's been years, like every development they've made outside of ADVENT is some nerd gently caress of an alien going 'wouldn't it be cool if we had like a big ol' tank that punched people and had both a pilot AND a AI controlling it?' or 'what if we gave our sectopods like 30 foot legs that were strong enough it could just walk through buildings without slowing down?' I guess its the new mechtoid, though I miss how silly the sectoids looked in those suits.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:39
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The Andromedon is the Kool Aid Man and will accept nothing less. Busting through walls with a 4 armor meat bag will never not be awesome. (Though I'm thinking I'll have to prevent myself using domination on psy ops to avoid trivializing them.)
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Feb 11, 2016 06:42
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Grapplejack posted:I kinda don't get the point of the Andromedon. Why did the aliens make it? The suit works just fine as an enforcer. Their employees need to feel like they have fulfilling and valuable jobs. 
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Feb 11, 2016 06:43
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Grapplejack posted:I kinda don't get the point of the Andromedon. Why did the aliens make it? The suit works just fine as an enforcer. Count Uvula posted:It's been years, like every development they've made outside of ADVENT is some nerd gently caress of an alien going 'wouldn't it be cool if we had like a big ol' tank that punched people and had both a pilot AND a AI controlling it?' or 'what if we gave our sectopods like 30 foot legs that were strong enough it could just walk through buildings without slowing down?' "Dammit Bob, why are you doing this? We're supposed to be working on the AVATAR project. You know, the one that will give us bodies that aren't literally rotting off the bone" "I was bored and I needed something to do while my code was compiling." *points to a rack of bubbling gene tank full of growing clones*
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Feb 11, 2016 06:47
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Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:47
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. Get Shred. Getting rid of enemy armor is much more frequently useful than reducing explosion damage; enemies really don't use explosives all that often, in my experience. Plus, Shred's armor reduction increases with tech level. Plasma heavies shred 3 armor a hit.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:51
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. I mean I guess if you view Blast Padding as a thing for the explosives damage. The armor is pretty bad as all the damage I take just shreded armor anyway.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:52
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. This is sarcastic right
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Feb 11, 2016 06:53
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. Really? I'd value the ability to shred an increasing amount of armor at-will more than the ability to take one fewer points of damage- the endgame in particular has an abundance of things with armor and being able to shred that armor with minimal explosives means you can kill enemies that much faster and prevent them from shooting you. Blast padding is more noticeable in the start of the game, but it's still difficult to build a dedicated tank unit since getting damaged means taking wounds and sitting out the next mission.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:54
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. Shredder keeps your entire team alive, blasting pad keeps one person alive.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:55
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When's the last time an enemy threw explosives at you?
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Feb 11, 2016 06:55
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The Shortest Path posted:This is sarcastic right Okay apparently the AI just seems to like grenading me more than the rest of you because MECs, Mutons, and pretty much anyone with an explosive attack uses them like candy for me. Also I haven't reached late game just yet so I didn't know every enemy gets lots of armor.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:55
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khy posted:Shredder vs Blast Padding is super difficult to decide. They're both just so very, very good. Blast Padding hands down for the early game. That point of armor can make a difference of several days in the hospital, and Mutons are jerks with those grenades. Retrain late game for shredder. The AWC is the greatest thing. Also the AWC is so crucial to the early game that I find it hard to imagine any build order except GTS -> AWC -> Power -> whatever. Getting troops back in half the time is the only way for me to build up a murder squad faster than the aliens get dangerous. E: I stand by Blast Padding early game. When things start getting armor you just lob more grenades at them. Use a phantom ranger to open every engagement with a grenade to the face, prioritize the Muton autopsy to get the Plasma grenade Proving Grounds project.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:55
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Man these retaliation missions sure can be difficu- 
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Feb 11, 2016 06:56
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Will a stock on a Cannon cause it to shred enemies even on a miss?
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Feb 11, 2016 06:57
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Is there a T3 grenade launcher? If so, what research unlocks it?
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Feb 11, 2016 06:58
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Bloomington posted:Man these retaliation missions sure can be difficu- You see an easy five civs to rescue. I see 5 Faceless who will murder the ranger I go send to check up on them.
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Feb 11, 2016 06:59
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toasterwarrior posted:Will a stock on a Cannon cause it to shred enemies even on a miss? Not a Step posted:You see an easy five civs to rescue.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:00
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God drat does a maxed out specialist feel good. The combination of reaction fire overwatch from aid protocol + hacking the planet + skulljacking bros 24/7 and pulling sweet loot out of their brains makes them feel like total badasses. When you get the right AWC perks you can sort of break the game in amazing ways. My specialist (with guardian) and grenadier both got killzone. Running it out absolutely ruins anything that isn't an andromedon/gatekeeper or sectopod. It breaks the overwatch camera by the way, it's kind of hilarious.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:00
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Bloomington posted:Man these retaliation missions sure can be difficu- They're all faceless 
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Feb 11, 2016 07:00
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toasterwarrior posted:Will a stock on a Cannon cause it to shred enemies even on a miss? No. At least it didn't when my sniper who rolled shredder used a stock. Stocks don't work with killzone either. Kind of a bummer.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:00
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If I disable mods in a campaign but then renable them before loading it again, will that campaign work fine or will it be busted? Asking because ranked online matches require all mods to be disabled for some reason.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:01
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You know, if sectoids or some other physic alien could telekinetically throw your grenades back at you, it would both force me to indulge in more elaborate tactics and make me take them seriously.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:07
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Vib Rib posted:Is there a T3 grenade launcher? If so, what research unlocks it? Nope, it stops at tier 2 after autopsying mutons. Though sad compared to the subweapons of every other class in the game it's probably for the best, as continuing to scale up the grenade launcher would produce something that could basically attack an entire screen of enemies from several screens away.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:08
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Do Faceless ever attack Civs? Because I mostly just stick to the 'Leave Civs alone if they're not on the front line and eventually the Faceless will reveal themselves' pro strat.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:08
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Kin33 posted:No. At least it didn't when my sniper who rolled shredder used a stock. Stocks don't work with killzone either. Kind of a bummer. My favorite sharpshooter rolled shredder, which made me sad because I reserve him for clean up with Serial and Killzone. Armor busting is for grenadiers. My gunslinger sharpshooter got Implacable, which makes her badass at killing and then fading back into cover. E: And the lt. sharpshooter I just hired picked up holotargeting from the AWC, so I guess I'm going to experiment with using a sharpshooter to open a combat instead of ending it. Does holotargeting work with reaction fire? Will it persist onto my turn? Nix Panicus fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 07:09
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LightWarden posted:Nope, it stops at tier 2 after autopsying mutons. Though sad compared to the subweapons of every other class in the game it's probably for the best, as continuing to scale up the grenade launcher would produce something that could basically attack an entire screen of enemies from several screens away. Then again, by upgrading from frag to plasma grenades, it's sort of giving the grenade launchers another upgrade, honestly.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:09
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I might have just screwed myself. I was delaying doing a facility to reset the avatar clock until a supply drop hit so I could upgrade the rest of my weapons to T3, but got a retaliation mission with 4:30:00 left, right after i finished grabbing the supply drop. I have to finish the retaliation mission with as minimal casualties as I can manage, then immediately fly to Australia to destroy a facility.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:10
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LightWarden posted:Nope, it stops at tier 2 after autopsying mutons. Though sad compared to the subweapons of every other class in the game it's probably for the best, as continuing to scale up the grenade launcher would produce something that could basically attack an entire screen of enemies from several screens away.
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Feb 11, 2016 07:12
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