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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

At least it's down to 3, and most of what Grey lost was disabled.

Plus, an Allied Unit being destroyed is promising.

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Night10194 posted:

At least it's down to 3, and most of what Grey lost was disabled.

Plus, an Allied Unit being destroyed is promising.

Yeah, there is no way to take /bataan beyond a bloodbath I'm afraid.

The Sandman posted:

So how's the economy doing?

And the aircraft production/R&D?

I'll show that at the end of the month.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

So what determines how intact the oil facilities on Sumatra are? I'm worried the longer Grey doesn't invade Sumatra, the more time the Dutch get to sabotage the facilities.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Dreamsicle posted:

So what determines how intact the oil facilities on Sumatra are? I'm worried the longer Grey doesn't invade Sumatra, the more time the Dutch get to sabotage the facilities.

Generally it's the number of Engineer squads that are in the hex. When the attacker wins, they'll try to inflict damage on the facilities as a final gently caress-you before routing / surrendering.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Hey! That was supposed to be a dud!



Oh har de har har.



That's more of the supply road cut. Only Nanning remains before this force turns north,



The fighting at Amoy continues.



There are more defenders at Wenchow than expected.







Actual air combat! I'm not sure where the Allies are hiding all their planes, but its beginning to annoy/worry me.



Bataan continues to be brutal, but we are making some headway at least. I will rest now for a few days.







At least we know some planes are down in Buna.



Johore is now settled. I will need to rest my troops for a few days before advancing again however.







A day of brutal fighting across the theatre. We must advance again soon!



Oh come on! Make up your mind – do you have a Permit or not?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Third set of 120mm coastal guns. Are you actually landing at these places or are your captains just suicidal idiots?

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

What's the Kido Butai up to?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Cant wait for the 5 month slugfest to start in Singapore.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Hopefully he's drawing down some of the supplies (not to mention troops) of the enemy by fighting in Johore. Maybe it will make things go a bit faster in Singapore?

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Welp, there goes the family hometown in Johore.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Night10194 posted:

Look, man, that ice cream machine was goddamn necessary.

Well ice cream did fulfill the dairy part of dietary requirements back then. Plus the servicemen liked ice cream enough that destroyers picking up downed carrier aircrew often got an ice cream bounty for it.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Danann posted:

Well ice cream did fulfill the dairy part of dietary requirements back then. Plus the servicemen liked ice cream enough that destroyers picking up downed carrier aircrew often got an ice cream bounty for it.

I was in no way kidding. If I was going to be strapped into a steel coffin under the ocean with lovely non-functional torpedoes, I'd want ice cream and air conditioning, too.

Plus, didn't the AC actually help prevent corrosion or something?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Danann posted:

Well ice cream did fulfill the dairy part of dietary requirements back then. Plus the servicemen liked ice cream enough that destroyers picking up downed carrier aircrew often got an ice cream bounty for it.

Also, cooking in the Navy bloooows. The old joke is that the Navy has the best food in the world, till the cooks get a hold of it. You gotta keep morale up somehow.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

A White Guy posted:

Also, cooking in the Navy bloooows. The old joke is that the Navy has the best food in the world, till the cooks get a hold of it. You gotta keep morale up somehow.

Icecream is also significantly less likely to set a ship on fire.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Night10194 posted:

I was in no way kidding. If I was going to be strapped into a steel coffin under the ocean with lovely non-functional torpedoes, I'd want ice cream and air conditioning, too.

Plus, didn't the AC actually help prevent corrosion or something?

Yes, the AC was put in place to prevent high humidity from wreaking havoc on the ship's equipment.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

gradenko_2000 posted:

Yes, the AC was put in place to prevent high humidity from wreaking havoc on the ship's equipment.

Not sure you're allowed to spell it that way in this thread. Keep it "wrecking" from here on out unless you want to get probated.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Clunk! Mwah ha ha!







I start a more aggressive sweep of Ilolio. But the Nates are spotted long before they get there.



This is the first raid my planes have made since I dropped all their altitudes to 10K. They still come in a bit high.



I think the range estimates are off. This is the first confirmed damage however!







The British hold one to Johore by their fingertips now.







Changsha shall fall soon as well, we take out some of the remaining forts.



At Amoy, we also have the major advantage.



A decent sized enemy force arrives at Taiyaun, but I've been watching it march up, and I've been able to provide what I hope will be a proper defence for the city.







We're basically just grinding them down in several key places now. I do have some good news however.



Their back! Ready for a comeback tour around the Dutch East Indies! Starting with the Singapore area!

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Grey Hunter posted:



Their back! Ready for a comeback tour around the Dutch East Indies! Starting with the Singapore area!

Oh good. Were the KB even trained in CAS?

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
What is the stacking limit for fleets? I want to say that you start getting penalties if you go above 16 ships per task force but maybe I am wrong.

whitewhale
Feb 21, 2013
Time to return to Pearl and finish what was started!

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Goetta posted:

What is the stacking limit for fleets? I want to say that you start getting penalties if you go above 16 ships per task force but maybe I am wrong.

You can put 25 ships in a combat fleet. For a Japanese Air Combat task force, you get an air coordination penalty if there are greater than 200 + (random number between 1 and 200) planes in your task force.

I seem to remember that there is a bit of a penalty for surface combat task forces after 15 ships or so, but I can't find where that is, and it doesn't apply in this case anyways.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

pthighs posted:

You can put 25 ships in a combat fleet. For a Japanese Air Combat task force, you get an air coordination penalty if there are greater than 200 + (random number between 1 and 200) planes in your task force.

I seem to remember that there is a bit of a penalty for surface combat task forces after 15 ships or so, but I can't find where that is, and it doesn't apply in this case anyways.

Is the air coordination limit the same for U. S carriers?

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

pthighs posted:

You can put 25 ships in a combat fleet. For a Japanese Air Combat task force, you get an air coordination penalty if there are greater than 200 + (random number between 1 and 200) planes in your task force.

I seem to remember that there is a bit of a penalty for surface combat task forces after 15 ships or so, but I can't find where that is, and it doesn't apply in this case anyways.

Ok, thanks. Would the surface combat penalty apply in this case to fighting off sub attacks? Or is it just actual surface fights from the surface combat task?

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Dreamsicle posted:

Is the air coordination limit the same for U. S carriers?

It changes over time for the US allies to represent their growing competence: 100 + random(100) in 1942, 150 + random(150) in 1943, same as Japanese in 1944 and beyond.


Goetta posted:

Ok, thanks. Would the surface combat penalty apply in this case to fighting off sub attacks? Or is it just actual surface fights from the surface combat task?

I don't think so. Sub attacks are difficult against CV task forces due to their high speed. Otherwise, the number of ASW escorts, the number and quality of their weapons/sensors, and the experience of sub and escort crews will play a role.
In practice a sub has to get lucky enough to get ahead of a CV task force and gets one torpedo spread. After that it can't keep up.

pthighs fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 10, 2016

i81icu812
Dec 5, 2006
So how many op losses have you taken in return for 5 casualties bombing the jungle in Bataan?

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

whitewhale posted:

Time to return to Pearl and not gently caress it up this time!

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

i81icu812 posted:

So how many op losses have you taken in return for 5 casualties bombing the jungle in Bataan?

Going by the last 5 days of the reports, he's lost 11 or so planes to OPS. Even a generous 50% of that total, considering all other aircraft/flights on the map that are active, puts it at very negligible.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
So I finally got around to giving the sunk ship "database" a bit of an overhaul, filling in missed blanks, putting in more info...

Turns out I gave biosterous a dead ship! :cripes:


So uhhh... if you're reading this, sorry! On the good side, its not like there's a limit to how many times you can claim a ship!

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Do we have a wiki yet? Or has not enough time elapsed.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
If we can already get lucky ships I want the IJN Kitakami please :D

TehKeen
May 24, 2006

Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's
cosmoline.


Dawncloack posted:

If we can already get lucky ships I want the IJN Kitakami please :D

You might want to have a word with Woodchip.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost

Aw poo poo, late every time.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Ikasuhito posted:

Time to return to Pearl and not gently caress it up this time!

Well, he didn't gently caress up Pearl Harbor the first time he went there either, if you get my drift

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

gradenko_2000 posted:

Well, he didn't gently caress up Pearl Harbor the first time he went there either, if you get my drift

:perfect:

How many days of bombing in game would it take to get a "historical" level of damage at Pearl? Seems like every time I see a WitP game opening the first raid isn't nearly as painful as it could be (should be?).

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Thankfully WitP has a December 8th scenario that gives you the historical result, but it seems to not be terribly popular for LP's or AAR's.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Davin Valkri posted:

:perfect:

How many days of bombing in game would it take to get a "historical" level of damage at Pearl? Seems like every time I see a WitP game opening the first raid isn't nearly as painful as it could be (should be?).

To be fair, only two battleships were permanently sunk at Pearl historically. The others were all back in service well before the end of the war.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






A supply convoy comes under attack, they score no hits however.



I hope you all crash on the way home.



Oh come on, break!



We do take a base in Borneo.



Make that two.







More actual damage!



I'm going to call off these Nate's, they are outclassed. I was hoping they would all go in at once.



Instead, they go in a few at a time.



Time to rest again at Bataan.







Thousands more die at Changsha, the battle is all but decided here.



We shatter another force. This must be making it hard to replace losses in China.







Its still bloody out there, but at least its mostly bloody in our favour. They are down to 9AV in Jahore, so its literally any day now.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008

Grey Hunter posted:





Thousands more die at Changsha, the battle is all but decided here.



We shatter another force. This must be making it hard to replace losses in China.

Am I seeing this right? Is GreyHunter Changasha plus Kukong away from liking up the northern and southern fronts?

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

Dawncloack posted:

Aw poo poo, late every time.

We can both root for the Queen of Torps together :D

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megane
Jun 20, 2008



Isn't there a thing where every Chinese squad that dies gets instantly replaced? Is there a point to beating up the Chinese?

Actually, for that matter, is it really the best strategy to fight on all these dozen of little fronts at once? I mean, obviously that's how it happened historically, but couldn't the player ignore all the dozens of little islands and concentrate all those forces to like, conquer Hawaii or something?

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