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Loving Africa Chaps posted:You do 5-6 years undergrad And what're the pay grades like?
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Fans posted:Romesh Ranganathan. Presumably here purely to annoy Farage. I hope he starts every line with "As a vegan, I.."
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Feb 11, 2016 22:05
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shrike82 posted:And what're the pay grades like? Two intern (sorta) years FY1 22,636 FY2 28,076 Enter into specialist training CT1 30,002 CT2 31,838 Pick sub-specialty ST3 34,402 ST4 35,952 ST5 37,822 ST6 39,693 ST7 41,564 Congrats you are now a consultant Generally you then get 40-50% on top for all your out of hours work
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Feb 11, 2016 22:08
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shrike82 posted:And what're the pay grades like? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_doctor All the information you seek is here
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Feb 11, 2016 22:08
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Jesus, that's incredibly poo poo pay. A lot more respect for the Junior Docs now.
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Feb 11, 2016 22:09
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Don't forget you need to pay exam fees etc for continued training
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Feb 11, 2016 22:11
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Don't forget you need to pay exam fees etc for continued training most people will spend about 2 grand each set of exams because of fees, courses and the odd retake.I was pretty jammy and passed my primary first time without courses. Someone of the courses take the absolute piss too, threaten candidates with GMC referrals if they take any pictures of the questions they set before asking them to all remember a certain numbered question from the real exam to add to their bank. I pay £800/year to be a member of various organisations and that's with a college that doesn't take the absolute piss. I pay ~200, my surgical colleagues pay over double and then another couple of hundred for an eportfolio the RCS forces them to use (supplied by themselves of course) Loving Africa Chaps fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 22:20
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Again, as a transplant from the States, the numbers (income/living expenses) for the average Londoner don't make any sense to me. Relative to NY, people seem to earn less pre-tax than equivalent jobs. And they have to spend more on stuff like rent and day-to-day expenses. Like I don't get how people survive.
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Feb 11, 2016 22:24
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A lot of people are forced to commute for multiple hours each way other day, because otherwise they won't be able to live.
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Feb 11, 2016 22:29
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In terms of what the 'free market' will pay you can get 75 grand (mon-fri 40 hours a week) from IDS after two years to do disability assessments though that salary does include your soul
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Feb 11, 2016 22:51
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Currently the basic rate is: Holy poo poo a year in and they get a progression that I need a promotion to obtain  I hope the doctors continue fighting the contract, not least because I'm pretty sure the nurse contract comes up for renewal this year.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:00
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Namtab posted:Holy poo poo a year in and they get a progression that I need a promotion to obtain One of the reasons my nurse friends are so behind the doctors is that they'll want their help when they're getting hosed by Hunt too.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:01
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Namtab posted:Holy poo poo a year in and they get a progression that I need a promotion to obtain That jump represents going from provisional to full registration so in theory a decent step up in responsibility serious gaylord posted:One of the reasons my nurse friends are so behind the doctors is that they'll want their help when they're getting hosed by Hunt too. Yeah saturdays for us = saturdays for everyone. Consultants have their contract coming up and already you have a major trust cancelling all leave to go to conferences or attend courses
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Feb 11, 2016 23:05
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Well I figure the nurses are also doing it because they're aware it's a hosed up lovely contract and they're looking out for their comrades.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:07
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For the record, the nurses (and ahps) pay scale is here. https://www.rcn.org.uk/employment-and-pay/nhs-pay-scales-2015-16 For the record band 3 and 4 is healthcare assistants and support workers, registered nurses start at 5, 7 is a ward sister, 8 is management. Every year you go up a point in your band, when you reach the top of a band you get 1% a year until you get a new banding through a job interview.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:10
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All goons join us in #ukgoons (synirc) for Question Time. This week: Llanelli with Leanne Wood, Carwyn Jones, Big Nige (a given), a comedian who isn't very funny and a beardy Tory bellend. BYOB!!! 
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Feb 11, 2016 23:11
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Tesseraction posted:Well I figure the nurses are also doing it because they're aware it's a hosed up lovely contract and they're looking out for their comrades. It's poo poo, it's dangerous, the 7 day nhs mostly exists. Ultimately I expect there'd be even more public support if the nurses ever took strike action because there's a misconception, even among some of my nursing colleagues, that doctors all earn tons to begin with.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:12
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Namtab posted:It's poo poo, it's dangerous, the 7 day nhs mostly exists. Nurses, like teachers and soldiers, are a tory voters darling. If Hunt manages to get the nurses striking it will have an impact.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:16
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crispix posted:a comedian who isn't very funny I like Romesh. 
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Feb 11, 2016 23:16
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Romesh is an acquired taste, but he is very good at aggravating people into embarrassing themselves.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:17
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There's a lot of Tory nurses and I have a reasonable suspicion that the rcn doesn't do general strikes.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:18
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serious gaylord posted:Romesh is an acquired taste, but he is very good at aggravating people into embarrassing themselves. That sounds awesome, where does he do that?
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Feb 11, 2016 23:19
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I checked and the RCN has never had a general strike
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Feb 11, 2016 23:21
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thehustler posted:So far 9 out of 20 NHS CEOs have publicly said - mostly on Twitter- that they support the terms of the contract but don't support imposition of it, despite a great many of those 20 saying they wanted the government to force it through "by any means necessary".
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Feb 11, 2016 23:32
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serious gaylord posted:Nurses, like teachers and soldiers, are a tory voters darling. If Hunt manages to get the nurses striking it will have an impact. I was under the impression Tories don't have much time for teachers, thinking they're all lefty types who spend too much time striking and having dangerous ideas about how the 19th century educational system and curriculum weren't perfect. Niric fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 23:36
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Niric posted:I was under the impression Tories don't have much time for teachers, thinking they're all lefty types who spend too much time striking and having dangerous ideas about thre 19th century educational system and curriculum not being perfect. The Guardian gleefully hosted a column by a Tory teacher who spoke about how they're the silent majority keeping their heads down to avoid the lefty loons who'd beat them up in the staff room if they knew.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:39
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Namtab posted:I checked and the RCN has never had a general strike And before this the BMA hadn't acted like a trade union before.
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namesake posted:And before this the BMA hadn't acted like a trade union before. Could this be the big society Dave spoke of
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Feb 11, 2016 23:41
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Question time is about 5 minutes from me in two weeks.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:50
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Sounds like you need to go bean the Tory.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:58
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McDouble is 'cheapest and most nutritious food in human history' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html
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Feb 12, 2016 00:00
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This tory is getting an absolute shoeing.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:01
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Tesseraction posted:The Guardian gleefully hosted a column by a Tory teacher who spoke about how they're the silent majority keeping their heads down to avoid the lefty loons who'd beat them up in the staff room if they knew. You get gits in any profession who think they're a silent majority despite being worried that all the lefties will kick their arse for it.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:03
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serious gaylord posted:This tory is getting an absolute shoeing. I was thinking he was doing quite well, considering. A couple of weeks ago, the Tory minister was being booed by the audience. Everybody, even doctors, seem to have bought into the weekend deaths myth now, even though the study was not considering weekends in isolation. :grrr:
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Feb 12, 2016 00:04
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:You get gits in any profession who think they're a silent majority despite being worried that all the lefties will kick their arse for it. And by jove I would kick their arse for it.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:05
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Not really I'm a giant fairy and would be snapped in half.
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Prince John posted:I was thinking he was doing quite well, considering. A couple of weeks ago, the Tory minister was being booed by the audience. Hes got answers but they're all utterly meaningless. I was reading that this guy is thought of as one of the next Tory leaders, which explains his dedication to empty soundbite rhetoric.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:06
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Namtab posted:I checked and the RCN has never had a general strike Most of the nurses I work with are with Unison now. Namtab posted:For the record, the nurses (and ahps) pay scale is here. Healthcare assistants are band 2 here.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:07
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/697417803159224321 https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/697416670432854016
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/697417803159224321 Mwahahahahaha CHAOS REIGNS.
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