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V for Vegas posted:The second NATO mission in Black Sea where you have to clear out a city but can't destroy buildings is one of the worst missions ever. This mission is exactly why I posted about clearing buildings. My men can never spot the units in buildings so they always get ambushed. But if I try to suppress every building I come across I'll both run out of ammo and expose my men. Even after I "clear" buildings and move my armor up, some bastard survivor with an RPG will shoot a Bradley or Abrams in the rear end and blow it up.
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Yeah it's an enormous pain in the arse clearing urban environments in Black Sea. To be fair though, I have no idea how any army would ever be able to do that now. Every building has several thousand possible firing points, spread across however many dozen floors. I found the best method to be just ignore the buildings if possible, use infantry to clear any that really need clearing (accepting the crazy casualties) and use APC cannons to ruin anyone who pops their head up. Armoured casualties are a fact of life in CM:BS I fear.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:02
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V for Vegas posted:The second NATO mission in Black Sea where you have to clear out a city but can't destroy buildings is one of the worst missions ever. First world problems.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:26
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 When points only allow you to bring less than a company, but the Russians bring a whole loving Battalion. It was like the end of Saving Private Ryan mixed with the Alamo.
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Feb 12, 2016 05:57
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I want to play Red Thunder so badly but whenever I boot it now it just hangs on a black screen till I kill the process. As far as I'm aware nothing has changed on the PC and Normandy and Black Sea still launch fine. Anyone got any ideas? Or am I stuck redownloading the installer over and over again for the next 4 days as battlefronts ancient servers give me network errors at 95℅ completed.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:03
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Is Pike and Shot worth the $35? I am kind of annoyed at this stupid 13% off discount (Same as the winter sale) if only because off the odd number. I'm sorely tempted, but I'm also a really frugal bastard. Someone convince me (or not) before the sale ends in 9 hours, tia.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:07
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I really like it, it's a fun beer-and-pretzels tactical game, and the strategic layer added in Campaigns is decent enough. Don't start as Parliament in the English Civil War because the Royalist horse is invincible but otherwise go hog wild.
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Feb 12, 2016 10:35
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Also don't buy any of that poo poo for iPad because it is no longer supported. Great game, though. They did a good job making it fun, but still capturing the feeling and lack of control of the era.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:30
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Abongination posted:I want to play Red Thunder so badly but whenever I boot it now it just hangs on a black screen till I kill the process. You aren't using Intel Graphics are you?
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Feb 12, 2016 12:50
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Alchenar posted:You aren't using Intel Graphics are you? I'm not him/her but I recently bought cmbn and cmfi and I can play italy almost flawlessly on integrated gfx but normandy gives me an absolute poo poo framerate. Kinda pissed because they're supposed to be the same engine; I thought that was the whole point. Not sure if its the bocage or what but the 2 games are leagues apart in performance for me.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:18
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Normandy was made on 2.0 and FI was on like 2.1 or whatever after they introduced support for normal maps in the year of our lord 2012. Normandy runs kind of garbage
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Feb 12, 2016 18:37
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Abongination posted:I want to play Red Thunder so badly but whenever I boot it now it just hangs on a black screen till I kill the process. I had problems with one of the Combat Mission titles on my laptop--IIRC it would do the same or similar until I switched it over to the high power nvidia chipset. Also, don't know if you've already found this thread or if it's relevant for you, but it could be helpful.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:04
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Yea combat mission games generally run like poo poo. I have a pretty strong computer but I can barely run Black Sea, I run Normandy a little bit better but still poo poo. Even on low graphics.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:51
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Italy always ran worst on my pc. I read the vineyards don't have a low res version and they take up a lot of ram. The biggest performance booster for me has always been to turn off shaders, so if you have not tried that you might want to. Really though they never optimized it and it runs on a single core so unless you got a really good cpu and at least a mid tier nvidia card you are gonna stand a real chance of getting bad framerates.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:57
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INinja132 posted:Yeah it's an enormous pain in the arse clearing urban environments in Black Sea. To be fair though, I have no idea how any army would ever be able to do that now. Every building has several thousand possible firing points, spread across however many dozen floors. I found the best method to be just ignore the buildings if possible, use infantry to clear any that really need clearing (accepting the crazy casualties) and use APC cannons to ruin anyone who pops their head up. Armoured casualties are a fact of life in CM:BS I fear. In Fallujah the USMC did this job by employing weaponized white phosphorous (shh) and it was still costly. And in the case of Fallijah we are talking about going against an asymmetric opponent. Quite a bit different than fighting professional soldiers with universal access to sophisticated training and battlefield technology. The other common way to clear building, I hear anyway, is (if the building itself is of no value or you aren't at risk of killing civilians) by complete obliteration from the air, direct fire, or from indirect artillery fire. I'm sure though there are actually military goons around here somewhere with experience in clearing structures in modern conflicts. Whether or not they are also grognards and post here, is another question.
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Feb 12, 2016 21:01
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Bring back flamethrowers. Werent there various Novel Explosive/Thermobaric rounds developed post-Fallujah to help? My biggest issue in Combat Mission games was making sure the building I was taking wasnt exposed on nearly all sides by guys who would fire from buildings across the way with RPG's/RPO'. loving building abstraction can be a bitch 
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Feb 12, 2016 21:03
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Abongination posted:Anyone got any ideas? Or am I stuck redownloading the installer over and over again for the next 4 days as battlefronts ancient servers give me network errors at 95℅ completed. Can't speak to the first part, but I definitely feel you here. It takes me a week to download every CM game because every time I leave it to download overnight I come back to some network error that killed it at like 70%. When I built my new PC I just gave up on downloading from their site and transferred everything from my laptop piecemeal on a tiny USB stick.
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Feb 12, 2016 21:04
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Abongination posted:I want to play Red Thunder so badly but whenever I boot it now it just hangs on a black screen till I kill the process. I just used getright in tyool 2016 to download it lmao
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Feb 13, 2016 01:07
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Why do you people continue to give Battlefront money?! Wtf is wrong with you?
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Feb 13, 2016 05:08
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a grogs gotta do what a grogs gotta do.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:14
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Happy Hedonist posted:Why do you people continue to give Battlefront money?! Wtf is wrong with you? Because I can't steal their games more easily.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:15
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The games have worked well on my pc for years and I've never had a single problem with their download service. The game itself chugged sometimes before I upgraded but it is no where near as bad as aegod or scourge of war or even hearts of iron 3. As well I like the gameplay, the community is large and great, and at least graphical mods are plentiful and easy to do. I don't see why any one would have an extreme reaction to them.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:17
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Happy Hedonist posted:Why do you people continue to give Battlefront money?! Wtf is wrong with you? It's an abusive relationship but you just can't stop. I'm so stoked for the next opportunity to pay them $60-$80 for essentially the same game.   Cheers for the suggestions folks. LordPants posted:I just used getright in tyool 2016 to download it lmao I think I might just have to buck up and get it from battlefront, and also install a download manager for the first time since I had a 56k modem. Abongination fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 05:26
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They are often as bad as Scourge of War. I was playing one of Black Sea's smaller scenarios (the one where you're an American platoon assaulting a tiny AA fortification along a river) and I was constantly getting a framerate in the teens. You should know how well any map with a decent number of buildings runs.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:31
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ITT people seriously underestimating how hard it is to optimize rendering things.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:33
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It's not that I don't get how hard optimization is. I understand it. But the fact that they refuse to put ANY effort into it and constantly act as though it's not a large factor in why the genre's so niche and outright garbage is fairly frustrating. You have the advantage of your team being smart computer people instead of history nuts trying to make a game they're incapable of making.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:38
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People keep giving Battlefront money because Combat Mission is (sadly?) the best game out there in its category.
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abelian posted:People keep giving Battlefront money because Combat Mission is (sadly?) the best game out there in its category. Basically this. If there was any good competition out there Battlefront would have to re-examine how they conduct business
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Feb 13, 2016 06:11
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I don't know why someone doesn't whip up a copy in unity...
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Baloogan posted:ITT people seriously underestimating how hard it is to optimize rendering things. Like you would know mr "all my game is is a series of numbers and squares and circles on map of the world" - The Battlefront Devs. 
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Baloogan posted:I don't know why someone doesn't whip up a copy in unity... I'm an ideas and books guy. Who wants to start a company?
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Feb 13, 2016 06:19
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Let's ALL start a company.
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Feb 13, 2016 06:28
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Alikchi posted:Let's ALL start a company. Isn't this essentially how the Admiral's Edition of WitP got made?
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Feb 13, 2016 06:31
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We need
what am I missing?
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Baloogan posted:We need -Split the game in as many expansions/modules as possible and price them aggresively -Sell engine upgrades
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Feb 13, 2016 06:40
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I've honestly thought about trying to teach myself Unity/UE4 not for this express purpose but it'd be an interesting exercise. According to the not-Myth Deadhold developers Unity is INFINITELY better for strategy. UE4 is a loving garbage engine out of the box for anything but shooters apparently.
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Feb 13, 2016 06:44
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I've dabbled with teaching myself how to code and honestly, I don't think making an absolutely barebones hex-and-counter game would be incredibly hard at all. The AI would strike me as probably the hardest part of it.
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Feb 13, 2016 09:05
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I really like the idea of team based asymmetric games. Kinda like a WW2 AI War. So AI war with Tanks.
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Feb 13, 2016 09:07
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Wtf is this?
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Drone posted:I've dabbled with teaching myself how to code and honestly, I don't think making an absolutely barebones hex-and-counter game would be incredibly hard at all. The AI would strike me as probably the hardest part of it. Just make it multiplayer, sell it, promise AI support in the future and then... huh what?
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