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Josef K. Sourdust posted:
Bear with me, this may not be 100% accurate: Headline: VP candidate on winning ticket PROBABLY takes his/her place, OR Congress chooses a president. 20th amendment says VP takes president elect's spot if he dies before being sworn in. However, there is some gray area concerning when, technically, the winner of the popular vote on election day actually becomes "president elect" - once the electoral college has convened, or perhaps not until congress in a joint session officially counts the votes of the electoral college? If the person dies AFTER the electoral college votes but BEFORE congress counts the votes, congress might decide whether to count votes for that person. If they do, then succession kicks in an VP candidate takes the presidency. If congress does NOT count the votes, then obviously the loser of the election doesn't have a majority of 270 EVs, so then congress chooses the president in accordance with the 12th amendment. Congress has only dealth with a deceased loser in the past and chose not to count EVs for Horace Greeley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Greeley
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Maybe just go with Joementum my history degree is European, not American. I know more about 18th-20th century Russia/USSR and early-mid 20th century Germany than I do about U.S. hsitory.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:10
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Joementum posted:Also, as we found out in 2000, the Supreme Court can just decide to make poo poo up if they want, so that could happen too. Finally, something Trump can relate to in Washington.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:11
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Vile posted:Trump said in an interview yesterday, I think it was with Hannity, the he wants to pick someone "very political" to be his Vp. He admits he doesn't really understand how the government works so he wants someone like a Biden (seasoned vet in the politics game) to be his Vp. "I want somebody, you know, who's been in the Senate for a thousand years."
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Ah yes Horace Greeley. On his tombstone are inscribed the words "Life's a bitch and then you die, but first you lose the presidency."
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Eschers Basement posted:a) Chaos reigns. Didn't Horace Greenly die before the Electoral College met but after the votes were cast (where it showed he wasn't going to win anyway) for the 1872 election? There, his votes were distributed among the other Presidential candidates, strangely enough. EDIT: I barely remember reading a fiction book dramatizing what would happen in my college political sci class, it was written by a CNN talking head, but I remember it being enjoyable. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Shageletic fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 23:14
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Feb 11, 2016 23:17
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If Trump actually wins the election but then dies before assuming office I am legit going to be super loving pissed off. Jesus, that's exactly the kind of gut-punch crap that happens on this gay earth.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:18
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This made me cackle. Holy poo poo I love seeing the GOP try to deal with the loving monster they've created
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Feb 11, 2016 23:20
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Boosted_C5 posted:If Trump actually wins the election but then dies before assuming office I am legit going to be super loving pissed off. Don't worry, terrible people always live longer than anybody expects, he'll make it.
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Boosted_C5 posted:If Trump actually wins the election but then dies before assuming office I am legit going to be super loving pissed off. I mean there's a lot of factors that would make it likely beyond simple cosmic spite against you and your ilk.
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Thanks for the informative replies.  Sounds complicated....
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Shageletic posted:Didn't Horace Greenly die before the Electoral College met but after the votes were cast (where it showed he wasn't going to win anyway) for the 1872 election? There, his votes were distributed among the other Presidential candidates, strangely enough. Sure, but he lost in a big way, so no one actually cared. The electors were allowed to vote as they wished, and as Boosted said, 3 still voted for Greeley, because they were from Georgia and thought a dead man would still be a better president than Ulysses S. Grant. Congress accepted the votes for the other Democrats, but threw out the votes for Greeley. Edit: to be clear - Greeley's electors were allowed to vote as they wished; 13 voted for Greeley's VP candidate, 42 voted for Greeley's biggest rival at the convention, and 3 said gently caress it and still voted for dead Greeley. Eschers Basement fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 23:24
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Boosted_C5 posted:If Trump actually wins the election but then dies before assuming office I am legit going to be super loving pissed off. Especially if you pick a VP whose name rhymes with "News"
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Feb 11, 2016 23:25
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Vile posted:Trump said in an interview yesterday, I think it was with Hannity, the he wants to pick someone "very political" to be his Vp. He admits he doesn't really understand how the government works so he wants someone like a Biden (seasoned vet in the politics game) to be his Vp. Sounds like Ted Cruz! It would be very Trump to offer Cruz VP after defeating him for the nom because he needs an establishment insider. The rest of Cruz would melt from shame, assuming he has any capacity to feel it.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:26
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OAquinas posted:Especially if you pick a VP whose name rhymes with "News" idk, I'd be pretty cool with President Terry Crews
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Feb 11, 2016 23:27
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1872 was a weird loving election. It's overshadowed by 1860 and 1876, but it was a wild ride. Sometimes, like 1872, the wildest elections end in anticlimactic blowouts. See also: 1924, 1972.
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It's funny because... actually it's not funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLuk691tbo
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure, but he lost in a big way, so no one actually cared. The electors were allowed to vote as they wished, and as Boosted said, 3 still voted for Greeley, because they were from Georgia and thought a dead man would still be a better president than Ulysses S. Grant. Congress accepted the votes for the other Democrats, but threw out the votes for Greeley. gently caress those guys, grant was awesome
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Feb 11, 2016 23:30
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Joementum posted:It's funny because... actually it's not funny. In which Ted Cruz compares conservatism to a harmful addiction.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:30
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure, but he lost in a big way, so no one actually cared. The electors were allowed to vote as they wished, and as Boosted said, 3 still voted for Greeley, because they were from Georgia and thought a dead man would still be a better president than Ulysses S. Grant. Congress accepted the votes for the other Democrats, but threw out the votes for Greeley. Georgia has a long and proud history of supporting the worst possible candidate. Hello, George Wallace!
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Eschers Basement posted:Sure, but he lost in a big way, so no one actually cared. The electors were allowed to vote as they wished, and as Boosted said, 3 still voted for Greeley, because they were from Georgia and thought a dead man would still be a better president than Ulysses S. Grant. Congress accepted the votes for the other Democrats, but threw out the votes for Greeley. Interesting!
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Feb 11, 2016 23:32
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OAquinas posted:Especially if you pick a VP whose name rhymes with "News" Are you implying Trump's VP will be Newsmax Prime?
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Feb 11, 2016 23:33
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THA TITTY THRILLER posted:This made me cackle. Holy poo poo I love seeing the GOP try to deal with the loving monster they've created I'd like a ten hour loop of the last second "eh-ah-eh"
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Feb 11, 2016 23:33
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THA TITTY THRILLER posted:In which Ted Cruz compares conservatism to a harmful addiction. I like how they also imply, correctly, that Cruz does not have a pretty face.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:34
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Newsmax Prime is an imperfect clone of John Kasich, like Solid Snake was of Big Boss.
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Vile posted:Trump said in an interview yesterday, I think it was with Hannity, the he wants to pick someone "very political" to be his Vp. He admits he doesn't really understand how the government works so he wants someone like a Biden (seasoned vet in the politics game) to be his Vp. He chooses Biden. then he becomes president, and then immediately quits, allowing biden to take the lead. trump gets to have "been president" but take no responsibility, biden reigns. I like it.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:35
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God bless this plucky robot.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:38
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Hahaha, throw it on the pile with the rest of the broken robots.
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On SC: I wonder whether Trump will do well in the state that was anti-establishment enough to attempt secession, where Republican voters are (statistically) low-income, uneducated and racist, and where there's a very high number of veterans.
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It is so difficult to keep up with this thread. So pre Iowa, it looked like if Trump took Iowa, then he'd romp it home. THen when Rubio came third, it looked like if Rubio did OK in NH then he'd be able to win it. Now that neither happened, what are we looking at? If Cruz takes the next primary (SC?) then he should take it? Or Trump if he takes it? What pathways do these candidates have? I'm assuming people like Gilmore, Bush, Carson have no real chance?
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Joementum posted:It's funny because... actually it's not funny. I have this sense that Cruz' ad department is basically him telling his really bad jokes and saying "now make that an ad." Its just remarkable how many of his adds display the same totally unfunny sense of humor that Ted seems so proud of.
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I hope at the debate on February 25th CNN goes "gently caress it" and lets Gilmore on stage.
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im not going to listen to talk radio, what are right-wing podcasts and stuff that are not completely unbearable? andy levy is funny and there's a guy from national review on Left, right & Center, but that's all i know. there must be more republicans that are acceptable for european liberals
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teacup posted:It is so difficult to keep up with this thread. So pre Iowa, it looked like if Trump took Iowa, then he'd romp it home. THen when Rubio came third, it looked like if Rubio did OK in NH then he'd be able to win it. The race is closer than it looked directly before or after Iowa, with Trump ahead. Rubio is second, Jeb still has a small chance, and pundits/markets say Cruz has more of a chance than Jeb but I personally think Cruz's chance is the worst of anybody's. Kasich, like Bernie, did good mainly because it was in one of the states most favorable to him so no one's taking him particularly serious.
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