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SedanChair posted:Obviously in the mind of jrodefeld (or any covert white supremacist), getting called a racist is the ultimate aggression. hey maybe this will get his attention then hey jrode you're a fuckin racist piece of poo poo. stop listening to wu-tang, you fuckin abominable excuse for an abortion. also, pick up your klan robes on your way to the hitler youth rally now talk to me about minimum wage jobs COCKSUCKER
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Tesseraction posted:The latter I can understand but it's depressing to think he got the former job position of pirate blu-ray burner via nepotism. Where do you think Pee-Paw and Mee-Maw Rodefeld got the money to pay off Jrod's medical bills for his totally real case of Chronic Lyme Disease? That's right, selling bootleg VHS tapes! You rent the movie from the store, make a dozen copies, and sell em' for half what the retail price is. Li'l J is just keeping the family business alive.
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Who What Now posted:Where do you think Pee-Paw and Mee-Maw Rodefeld got the money to pay off Jrod's medical bills for his totally real case of Chronic Lyme Disease? That's right, selling bootleg VHS tapes! You rent the movie from the store, make a dozen copies, and sell em' for half what the retail price is. Li'l J is just keeping the family business alive. Hell, given his tendency to just quote long libertarian screeds at us I wonder if he isn't just choosing random selections of his currently-copying libertarian e-book of choice.
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Who What Now posted:I have a feeling that jrod's work history is nothing but a long list of positions gained through nepotism and/or failed get-rich-quick and Ponzi schemes. Sales Experience: • Essential in importing 2.5k units of Chinese Blu-Ray movies while maximizing profit on each sold • Proficient in navigating customs regulations and interacting with law enforcement • Well-educated in libertarian political science to provide rapport with clients • Skilled negotiator in receiving "extras" in deals (eg mercury tooth fillings) SedanChair posted:Obviously in the mind of jrodefeld (or any covert white supremacist), getting called a racist is the ultimate aggression. *spits drink all over monitor* Covert? Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:*spits drink all over monitor* I'm new to the arguing with libertarians pastime here on SA. Has he explicitly said that white people are naturally better than other races by some metric of human quality? Because I'd still call it covert if he's just acting like history started yesterday and every black person's achievement in life has nothing to do with slavery, sharecropping, police brutality, redlining, lead poisoning, or people like jrod who are unaware of their cognitive biases and think that they're perfectly rational and objective when they reject Jamal's application in favor of Steve's?
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Stinky_Pete posted:I'm new to the arguing with libertarians pastime here on SA. Has he explicitly said that white people are naturally better than other races by some metric of human quality? One of his favorite thinkers (and one of his most quoted) is Hans Hermann Hoppe, who's notable for talking about the inferior time preference of the negroid being the main thing holding back African countries (he used those words, and is still alive. He wrote that on his blog) and for openly fantasizing about forcibly removing socialists and homosexuals from society. His other most cited thinker is Murray Rothbard, notable for writing fawning tributes to David Duke and Charles "Bell Curve" Murray. There are hilariously awful quotes by the both of them if you check my posting history in this thread. e: Another constantly invoked figure is Actual Literal Fascist Ludwig von Mises. JRod himself has expressed the belief that black women have multiple children to maximize their welfare checks, talked about how it isn't racist to assume a young black man he sees on the street is "probably in a gang," and then argued in favor of law enforcement racially profiling Arabs when we called him on it. His racism really does seem to be of the "I am a rational and non-racist person; I have X bias; therefore X bias must be rational and non-racist" variety. Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Stinky_Pete posted:I'm new to the arguing with libertarians pastime here on SA. Has he explicitly said that white people are naturally better than other races by some metric of human quality?
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Stinky_Pete posted:I'm new to the arguing with libertarians pastime here on SA. Has he explicitly said that white people are naturally better than other races by some metric of human quality? Let me introduce you to Hans Herman Hoppe, who believes blacks, jews, homosexuals, and "democrats" need to be physically removed from society. He is somewhere on jrod's list of top influences after a guy who supported Apartheid South Africa, and a Confederate Lost Causer who believes we should resegregate public schools on the basis of race.
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Stinky_Pete posted:I'm new to the arguing with libertarians pastime here on SA. Has he explicitly said that white people are naturally better than other races by some metric of human quality? jrodefeld posted:Furthermore, I think I wrote a small handful of posts about the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman trial shortly after it erupted, which was several years ago, and you have to resort to digging up those old posts out of context to attack me on this thread? That strikes of desperation.
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fade5 posted:In addition to the above posts, there's this: I'm actually surprised he didn't vanish after that fuckup. I guess after we didn't drop the Qatar thing, he may have learned that it only gets worse. Haha, never mind, he can't learn. Oh! Oh! The Qatar thing! He cited a list of the most "economically free" countries, which counted actual slave states Qatar and the UAE in the top 15. Both ranked higher than the USA if I remember right.
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Who What Now posted:I have a feeling that jrod's work history is nothing but a long list of positions gained through nepotism and/or failed get-rich-quick and Ponzi schemes. On the one hand, he has said he doesn't think much of bitcoins, but on the other he is very dishonest and stupid so ?
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Nolanar posted:I'm actually surprised he didn't vanish after that fuckup. I guess after we didn't drop the Qatar thing, he may have learned that it only gets worse. Haha, never mind, he can't learn. Further: when people described the nature of the foreign worker programmes in those states, and how they were in practice slavery, he dismissed this as the workers' sour grapes at being prevented from unionizing. He is not good at faking empathy, which makes me wonder why he thinks he can proselytize to leftists.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Further: when people described the nature of the foreign worker programmes in those states, and how they were in practice slavery, he dismissed this as the workers' sour grapes at being prevented from unionizing. Leftists believe in freedom and prosperity for all. He believes that the things he supports will increase freedom and prosperity for all. Ergo, leftists should all agree with him. If they don't it's because they're deluded, misinformed, or brainwashed.
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Doc Hawkins posted:He is not good at faking empathy, which makes me wonder why he thinks he can proselytize to leftists. His efforts to find middle ground policy proposals have been hilariously pathetic, from "Strengthen labor by repealing the minimum wage for teens" to "Completely gut the FDA by revoking their ability to ban/stop the distribution of drugs". I don't know what exactly he was trying to do there, if he sees the world as statists V non-statists, then there's no need to compromise, statism is dominant and shows no signs of letting up. If he recognizes that there are a whole lot of ideologies under the umbrella of "statism", then why does he think a bunch of leftists who want to weaken businesses and strengthen workers want to kill a watchdog agency and make low skill workers compete with kids who are paid cents on the hour?
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Doc Hawkins posted:He is not good at faking empathy, which makes me wonder why he thinks he can proselytize to leftists. Easy: How to Gain Converts Left, Right and Center posted:It is called “political cross-dressing.” “Cross-dressing,” of course, refers to the adoption of the dress and behavior of members of the opposite sex. For the libertarian, political cross-dressing means using right-wing words, evidence, and arguments to support civil liberties, and left-wing terms and reasons to support the free market. Because statism is unjust and inefficient, evil and impractical, libertarians can present moral and utilitarian cases against it in all spheres You don't need to show empathy or maintain a coherent worldview or know what the gently caress your talking about, you just need to use the right magic words short-circuit the silly leftist brain! They can't possibly disagree with your ideas, it must be because you didn't phrase it right. You can see him try this with non-standard political language too, like when he tried to sell his insane interpretation of the Categorical Imperative. Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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We're all chums based on where we would have sat in the French legislature over like 150 years ago.
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Nolanar posted:His other most cited thinker is Murray Rothbard, notable for writing fawning tributes to David Duke and Charles "Bell Curve" Murray. Also please note that this is the guy depicted in jrod's avatar.
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Nolanar posted:... Which, I'd like to mention, got me to do a little reading and stumble upon the fact that Kant believed that it was immoral to be an anarchist. Which is hilarious, given Jrod's apparent position.
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Buried alive posted:Which, I'd like to mention, got me to do a little reading and stumble upon the fact that Kant believed that it was immoral to be an anarchist. Which is hilarious, given Jrod's apparent position.
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Nolanar posted:I can't stop responding to this dumb loving post help help Let's just post this over and over until he cries.
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GunnerJ posted:We're all chums based on where we would have sat in the French legislature over like 150 years ago. can i be this thread's Saint-Just?
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Buried alive posted:Which, I'd like to mention, got me to do a little reading and stumble upon the fact that Kant believed that it was immoral to be an anarchist. Which is hilarious, given Jrod's apparent position. Kant believed it was immoral to not tell murderers where they could find their intended victims. There are many things which make jrod's calling upon his authority preposterous.
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GunnerJ posted:We're all chums based on where we would have sat in the French legislature over like 150 years ago. Motherfucker would be cheering on the war in the Vendee. Not fighting in it, mind. But writing pamphlets in support from London. Doc Hawkins posted:Kant believed it was immoral to not tell murderers where they could find their intended victims. Wait what? e: Oh, universal immorality of lying. It's still immoral to refuse though Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Nolanar posted:Wait what? Kant explicitly said that it is always wrong to lie no matter what, even to save a life. And also that masturbation is worse than suicide and that bastards should be killed. Pretty much every contemporary Kant scholar thinks he misapplied his own ethical system in a lot of places.
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Juffo-Wup posted:Kant explicitly said that it is always wrong to lie no matter what, even to save a life. And also that masturbation is worse than suicide and that bastards should be killed. Pretty much every contemporary Kant scholar thinks he misapplied his own ethical system in a lot of places. I wanna read that masturbation quote.
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I dug up this article by Tom Woods in noted neo-Confederate rag Southern Partisan called "Christendom's Last Stand," in which he holds up the antebellum South as a bastion of freedom and morality. I'm just not seeing how we can call him a neo-Confederate, so I guess jrod is right.Tom Woods posted:
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GunnerJ posted:Also please note that this is the guy depicted in jrod's avatar. Did he buy that avatar himself or did someone buy that for him? I can't remember.
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Who What Now posted:I wanna read that masturbation quote. Immanuel Kant, wise philosopher posted:But it is not so easy to produce a rational proof that unnatural, and even merely unpurposive, use of one's sexual attribute is inadmissible as being a violation of duty to oneself (and indeed, as far as its unnatural use is concerned, a violation in the highest degree). The ground of proof is, indeed, that by it a man surrenders his personality (throwing it away), since he uses himself as a means to satisfy an animal impulse. But this does not explain the high degree of violation of the humanity in one's own person by such a vice in its unnaturalness, which seems in terms of its form (the disposition it involves) to exceed even murdering oneself. It consists, then, in this: That a man who defiantly casts off life as a burden is at least not making a feeble surrender to animal impulse in throwing himself away. Your Dunkle Sans posted:Did he buy that avatar himself or did someone buy that for him? I can't remember. As I understand it, he buys it for himself any time anyone else buys a more accurate disclaimer for him. It is a great argument for the ineffectiveness of customer reviews instead of regulation.
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Nolanar posted:As I understand it, he buys it for himself any time anyone else buys a more accurate disclaimer for him. It is a great argument for the ineffectiveness of customer reviews instead of regulation.
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Nolanar posted:Let's play the syllogism game! This is the post that will make Jrod vanish for a few months calling it.
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For those of you whose eyes just kind of slid off that Tom Woods article--and I for one could hardly blame you--let me summarize: According to him, the Confederacy was more principled, stable, and moral than the Union has ever been, and its defeat was a triumph for the forces of collectivist evil over the morally upright quote:The South has never been fertile soil for religious liberalism. This is not to say that Southerners are guilty of the unforgivable sin of "intolerance." As Professor Eugene Genovese reminds us, a kind of tolerance is observed in both North and South, but it is a different kind in each place. In the North where religion is more frequently considered a matter of mere individual preference and whim, the attitude is: "You worship God in your way and we'll worship him in ours." But in the South, where tolerance is not the same thing as indifference, people are more likely to say: "You worship God in your way and we'll worship him in his." The South is also a bastion of tolerance--the real kind of tolerance, which involves toxic levels of passive aggressive condescension
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Since everyone is talking about Kant, I have a question for the libertarians in this thread: what do you take universalizability to mean - and what's wrong with Rawls' interpretation?
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SatansOnion posted:For those of you whose eyes just kind of slid off that Tom Woods article--and I for one could hardly blame you--let me summarize: According to him, the Confederacy was more principled, stable, and moral than the Union has ever been, and its defeat was a triumph for the forces of collectivist evil over the morally upright ... So, what you're saying is that yet another of jrode's favored thinkers - so called, anyway - is an unabashed defender and apologist for racist slave states. Quelle surprise. I am shocked, shocked I say, to discover this. How could noted not-racist jrodefeld, a man who has been in the same room as a black person at one point, a man who professes a deep and abiding love for even the most Entartete music, have been so cruelly, viciously deceived? Truly, the mind boggles.
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jrod, here's a Libertopia hypothetical for you - Goofus is supposed to wire you 100 GoldBucks, but accidentally sends you 1000 instead. Now he demands the 900 extra GoldBucks back. Are you obligated to return the money sent to you by mistake? If not, would you do it anyway?
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It was equally shocking to learn that one of jrod's top thinkers, who candidly speaks about the constitutionality of racial segregation, and who thinks the Confederacy was great and abolitionists were extremist usurpers, is a founding member of the noted white supremacist hate-group The League of the South.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Further: when people described the nature of the foreign worker programmes in those states, and how they were in practice slavery, he dismissed this as the workers' sour grapes at being prevented from unionizing. Libertarians are notoriously bad at understanding their opponents arguments well enough to empathize with them. In their defense, the opponents of libertarians tend to skip past arguing and go immediately to mockery. I think most libertarians genuinely believe that government is just getting in the way and that if we just get government out of the way, then everything will sort itself out. The fact that there is genuinely zero evidence that this is true and that places with small or ineffective governments tend to be not very pleasant places to live should be enough to convince these people that maybe their case isn't ironclad. And while it think it's still possible to justify a belief in libertarianism in the face of all of this historical evidence I have rarely seen a libertarian even attempt to articulate that justification.
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I dug up this article by Tom Woods in noted neo-Confederate rag Southern Partisan called "Christendom's Last Stand," in which he holds up the antebellum South as a bastion of freedom and morality. I'm just not seeing how we can call him a neo-Confederate, so I guess jrod is right. I don't think it's something Jrod has ever really addressed, but I get the impression that libertarians vary quite a bit in terms of that tribalistic anti-individualist worldview. Some want the freedom to be super-tribal without those pesky "human rights" getting in the way, while others are libertarian precisely because they're so hyper-individualist that they're capable of ignoring or defaming the tiniest bit of consideration for fellow human beings.
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Nolanar posted:As I understand it, he buys it for himself any time anyone else buys a more accurate disclaimer for him. It is a great argument for the ineffectiveness of customer reviews instead of regulation. To be fair, it's fairly accurate. Self-owning happens quite a bit whenever he posts.
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I thought according to his beliefs jrod can't ever stop owning himself. Don't remember who posted the above first, sorry
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Mr. Belding posted:Libertarians are notoriously bad at understanding their opponents arguments well enough to empathize with them. In their defense, the opponents of libertarians tend to skip past arguing and go immediately to mockery. I think most libertarians genuinely believe that government is just getting in the way and that if we just get government out of the way, then everything will sort itself out. The fact that there is genuinely zero evidence that this is true and that places with small or ineffective governments tend to be not very pleasant places to live should be enough to convince these people that maybe their case isn't ironclad. And while it think it's still possible to justify a belief in libertarianism in the face of all of this historical evidence I have rarely seen a libertarian even attempt to articulate that justification. This is a great post and I'd like to add that it's also related to why so many conspiracy theorists are also libertarians. Their ideas require either no evidence or the shakiest evidence imaginable, and any counterarguments cannot ever satisfy their minimum burden of proof.
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