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chrisoya posted:He won't even be in the top ten worst people trying to spam the Hugos this year. He's even a better writer than some of the Puppy trash that got nominated last time around. Yep. divabot posted:Pounded In The Butt By My Own Girl with Red Tidday Up and White Tidday Down Corrupted by the Internet who is the Summoned Hero?! by Roko's Tinglisk 
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oh, just before today's literary disaster I rambled on Tumblr a bit about HPMOR: one, two. (In that second one you'll see me write the words "i expect his second will be better." HOLLOW loving LAUGH.) I thought there wouldn't be anything more to say on Tumblr, but The Discourse(tm) has been rich, rich today, I assure you.
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Jan 31, 2016 01:01
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Big fan of "the rape thing is valid" like it's supposed to be on a list after "the tone is inconsistent"
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Jan 31, 2016 01:16
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This new terrible POS will be on Kindle Unlimited in a coupla weeks, so if you've already hocked your soul to Amazon you can read it without giving Yudkowsky money directly (though he'll still get some pennies out of the KU monthly pool).
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Jan 31, 2016 03:26
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"Rationalism" is a horrible, horrible misnomer.
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anilEhilated posted:"Rationalism" is a horrible, horrible misnomer. Well, they do use it to rationalise horrible, horrible things.
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anilEhilated posted:"Rationalism" is a horrible, horrible misnomer. Rationalism is to rationality what Scientology is to science.
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Really? He's moving to loving light novels now?  divabot posted:Pounded In The Butt By My Own Girl with Red Tidday Up and White Tidday Down Corrupted by the Internet who is the Summoned Hero?! by Roko's Tinglisk I hate that I get this joke. EDIT: Oh my god this is poo poo. quote:The old warrior in chain-mail speaks up. “How is this girl supposed to do that, exactly? Is there more to her than is apparent?” quote:That’s some convenient exposition, but I’ll excuse it since you’re stating it for my sake. EDIT: OH MY GOD THIS IS poo poo 
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Jan 31, 2016 19:35
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But you see, the source genre is also poo poo, so you can't criticize it!
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Nakar posted:But you see, the source genre is also poo poo, so you can't criticize it! Edit: oh, right, there was a rationalist fanfic where the singularity uploaded everyone into an mmo already. or should I say, everypony...
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He really is even emulating the writing style of shittily translated light novels. Like, the ones where the people run it through google translate and then try to make a rough guess at what the text means
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Jan 31, 2016 22:00
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Real difference from his own lovely writing.
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Hey, critical geniuses! I've been asked an interesting question: what's Hermione like in HPMOR, as compared to canon? The problem here is that HJPEV is as utterly unobservant as canon HP, except more arrogant about it. So I'm finding it hard to get a picture of Hermione. She is very smart, and hasn't had a serious upgrade the way HJPEV has so is nearly as smart as him. The few times she outthinks him are presented as amusing reversals. But all of this is through HJPEV's eyes, and he is sufficiently unobservant that he fails to notice Quirrell is loving Voldemort, so one would have to dredge deeper to get actual characterisation of Hermione. The story ends with her in the role of HJPEV's Sidekick Scientist Dream Girl, though that's more characterisation of HJPEV (and indeed of the author). EY literally fridges Hermione at one point (both in motivational trope and physical action), and when bloggers dared point this out he exploded at them daring to critique his work when it wasn't finished (which would not be for another couple of years), because he doesn't understand non-adulation. Does anyone have links to that stuff? I recall various blog posts analysing the work and its author in way more detail than EY was used to. Edit: Found what I was after: this essay by Sam Keeper (Storming the Ivory Tower), a followup to this essay. (In response, the Tumblr rationalists proceeded to be such hugely annoying turds that Sam blocked the lot of them and now refers to them as The Cult That Shall Not Be Named.) I note also some apposite discussion on the LW HPMOR thread, particularly this subthread started by Nancy Lebovitz (who, as well as being a LW regular and moderator, has been active in SF fandom for decades and has some idea about the stuff): again focusing on the fact that Hermione didn't get the massive upgrade that HP did. divabot fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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divabot posted:
I like Scott a lot, but I have to ask him, how is "Carefully optimized to be maximally embarrassing to him" a good decision by a writer?
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divabot posted:The story ends with her in the role of HJPEV's Sidekick Scientist Dream Girl, though that's more characterisation of HJPEV (and indeed of the author). I only read the finale once, but my impression of it was more that Harry is Hermione's sidekick/mysterious old wizard because while he may be more "intelligent" than her she is better than him by literally every other measure; going back to the last chapter now, she's referred to explicitly as the "hero" in the penultimate paragraph, which is how Harry thought of himself throughout the entire story until that moment. Knowing what I do of Yudkowsky that's probably more charitable than he deserves, though.
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I really wouldn't call the Harry in this thing an "upgrade".
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anilEhilated posted:I really wouldn't call the Harry in this thing an "upgrade". In the same way you upgrade a computer from windows 98 to Windows ME. As with most of Yud's writing, its all about ME.
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Tunicate posted:In the same way you upgrade a computer from windows 98 to Windows ME. ME...METRO...TROPES...TRIPE! I think I've cracked the Yud-Windows Code, fellas!
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red tidday UP white tidday DOWN review: i have read it. * it is self consciously a pastiche of a trash genre, and that's fine y'know. it has no pretensions to quality * i observably have no literary standards and read worse fanfic * as a story it's reasonably constructed * (the intro is fatuous) * contains no actual porn * i laughed out loud once * will probably not read it a second time * is not worth 99c * but is not actually an offence against all human dignity * just some of it
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Well, that's annoying: su3su2u1 just deleted his Tumblr. (Someone on Tumblr threatened to dox him if he didn't. Love these rationalists!) Wonder if anyone kept a copy of the detailed HPMOR denunciation.
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Feb 27, 2016 09:29
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Don't worry, his review lives on... in my heart.
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Feb 27, 2016 16:45
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Also jesus christ yud's cultists are obsessive.
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Does tumblr have a report button or something because I don't understand how someone could openly say "yeah i stalked a dude and asked him nicely to take his site down while insinuating that if he didn't i'd loose the crazy people who would ruin his life on him" and not get kicked off of a website.
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They do but like most sites, good luck getting them to actually do something about it,
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Probably wouldn't be hard to find posts where they reblogged art without permission. That tumblr sure-as-poo poo cares about.
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divabot posted:Well, that's annoying: su3su2u1 just deleted his Tumblr. (Someone on Tumblr threatened to dox him if he didn't. Love these rationalists!) Wonder if anyone kept a copy of the detailed HPMOR denunciation.
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archive.is delivers: chapter reviews up to 103, full review. Might want to save these somewhere. Later chapter reviews don't appear to be in archive.is, sadly, and any of the discussion around EY exploding on Reddit would need to be reconstructed from others' reblogging. The old blog was not indexed by archive.org; but philippesaner grabbed the URL and has let stuff through via robots.txt, so let's hope archive.org did grab snapshots and will reveal them when it notices it's allowed to. edit: it's back! divabot fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Feb 28, 2016 |
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Chapter 17 – Locating the Hypothesis Part Twenty-Six quote:
Hasn’t Eliezarry already been taken away from his adoptive parents? He’s already in Hogwarts, after all. What guarantee does he have that Dumbledore will let him leave the school grounds? Also, it’s actually rather sweet to see that Eliezarry loves his adoptive parents so much. quote:
Seems like Eliezarry didn’t buy Dumbledore’s explanation that the “chicken” was actually a phoenix that had self-combusted. The narration doesn’t give enough clues for me to tell whether Eliezarry had seen past Dumbledore’s ruse (i.e. Dumbledore had actually set fire to an actual chicken) or if Dumbledore had been telling the truth and Eliezarry’s scepticism had again led him to the wrong interpretation of the situation. quote:
Oh well, whether Dumbledore had or had not actually set fire to a chicken, it’s probably a wise idea to spend as little time around him as possible.* * This also applies to the canon Dumbledore.
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Ysengrin posted:They do but like most sites, good luck getting them to actually do something about it, Yet at the same time they have an automated removal process that is exploitable and nigh irreversible that is often used to target people who disagree with SJW's. It's sickly amusing from the outside.
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Liquid Communism posted:Yet at the same time they have an automated removal process that is exploitable and nigh irreversible that is often used to target people who disagree with SJW's. It's sickly amusing from the outside. I have no idea where you're getting this from, but it doesn't really pass the smell test - if it were that easy for a disgruntled user to get things taken down from Tumblr, there would hardly be any Tumblr left.
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Yeah idk there's just a bunch of literal neonazis on the site
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GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:I have no idea where you're getting this from, but it doesn't really pass the smell test - if it were that easy for a disgruntled user to get things taken down from Tumblr, there would hardly be any Tumblr left. It may have been fixed. For a while there was a trend of fake DMCA requests which were getting blogs auto-deleted, same strategy that was being used on YouTube.
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There was a brief period where being OP of audio posts of copyrighted material was getting blogs auto-removed but it wasn't driven by some conspiracy, it was a pretty broadly-reaching problem.
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I think reading some of the posts in this thread made me realise one of the things I have a big problem with in HP:MOR. If you wanted to tell the story of a rationalist in the Harry Potter world, why not just bloody well use Hermione? She's right bloody there already just have her be the one who read Feynman instead of what she did already read. She's basically ready made to have one tiny alteration. And then you open up so many interesting areas to explore - Harry is thought of as the hero but he doesn't want it and is relieved you're here to take over, for instance. You have a female with actual agency in the story. Basically it'd be those alternate titles for the books things but fully fleshed out with a rationalist Hermione. I guess the Main Character would be less of an author insert then, though.
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That's basically what Arithmancer did and it's pretty great.
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You could even have the characters be intellectual rivals, which is so much more interesting than one character talking whole everyone stares on dumbly
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Death Bot posted:You could even have the characters be intellectual rivals, which is so much more interesting than one character talking whole everyone stares on dumbly
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Cavelcade posted:I think reading some of the posts in this thread made me realise one of the things I have a big problem with in HP:MOR. Like I mean, there's a few different possible takes on that - Yudkowsky may not have thought of her, because he identified with Harry; Yud may have wanted to keep the main character to maximize readership and potential recruits for his phyg; Yud may have thought that Hermione wouldn't make a convincing rationalist, somehow; it may have started as cheap gags before becoming a giant novel-length piece of wank material - but other than the last one they all come back to "she's not the little boy main character, that's why."
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Harry is an author insert and Yud probably had difficulty identifying with women.
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Chapter 17 – Locating the Hypothesis Part Twenty-Seven quote:
Shouldn’t Eliezarry be interested in finding out why wizards have increased resistance to impact / bludgeoning damage e.g. whether it is an inherent property of magic or if it is due to evolutionary selection? Or has the “scientific approach to / experimentation on magic” theme been forgotten about already? quote:
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