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corn in the bible posted:yeah because a tie would defer to the lower court which sided with the unions And they still have to decide in June? That's amazing.
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corn in the bible posted:yeah because a tie would defer to the lower court which sided with the unions A tie would be able to be retried once the seat was filled, wouldn't it?
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Jack Gladney posted:And they still have to decide in June? That's amazing. if the gop wins the election then unions won't be saved
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Mors Rattus posted:A tie would be able to be retried once the seat was filled, wouldn't it? yeah they can decide to hear it again later because a decision wasn't reached
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Mors Rattus posted:A tie would be able to be retried once the seat was filled, wouldn't it? Could be, but probably wouldn't be. It's late enough in the term that it's more likely cases would just be decided 4-4. Not necessarily required, as they could always reset for next term, but it's most likely. Here's the SCOTUSBlog rundown of current close cases. The most interesting one is probably affirmative action. Kagan recused herself from that case, meaning the conservative wing could still have a 4-3 majority.
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I saw a comment that the longest period between a nominee and confirmation was 125 days. Not sure if that is 100% accurate but it does make it seem like Obama will get to appoint Scalia's successor, one way or another. If the GOP manages to block an appointment until November it will just fuel the rhetoric that they are the opposition and can't get anything done. if the point of doing it is to get a Republican president to appoint the next justice, then you shouldn't be crippling your party's chances to win. If anything they will probably use their majority in the senate to force Obama to replace Scalia with a more moderate candidate.
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Slowpoke! posted:I saw a comment that the longest period between a nominee and confirmation was 125 days. Not sure if that is 100% accurate but it does make it seem like Obama will get to appoint Scalia's successor, one way or another. If the GOP manages to block an appointment until November it will just fuel the rhetoric that they are the opposition and can't get anything done. if the point of doing it is to get a Republican president to appoint the next justice, then you shouldn't be crippling your party's chances to win. There's been vacancies much longer than 125 days, but the reason the 125 days is relevant is because the Senate Republicans won't be able to pretend that their obstruction is "normal." They could keep refusing to even vote on a nominee, but there could be a political price for it. We shall see.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:There's been vacancies much longer than 125 days, but the reason the 125 days is relevant is because the Senate Republicans won't be able to pretend that their obstruction is "normal." They could keep refusing to even vote on a nominee, but there could be a political price for it. We shall see. Also their patron saint Reagan appointed Kennedy in 1988 right before leaving office, and refusing to allow Obama the same wouldn't look good at all.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:There's been vacancies much longer than 125 days, but the reason the 125 days is relevant is because the Senate Republicans won't be able to pretend that their obstruction is "normal." They could keep refusing to even vote on a nominee, but there could be a political price for it. We shall see. Has obstruction been anything but successful for the republicans since Obama has been in office? They will pay no political price if they somehow drag out a confirmation until after Obama leaves office.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:There's been vacancies much longer than 125 days, but the reason the 125 days is relevant is because the Senate Republicans won't be able to pretend that their obstruction is "normal." They could keep refusing to even vote on a nominee, but there could be a political price for it. We shall see. Apparently the longest vacancy was 27 months, when the Senate rejected John Tyler's nominations repeatedly. "Obstructionist Senate" is not a new thing.
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Charliegrs posted:Has obstruction been anything but successful for the republicans since Obama has been in office? They will pay no political price if they somehow drag out a confirmation until after Obama leaves office. Yes, but...this may well really push voter participation, and that works for Dems, not Republicans.
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Mitt Romney posted:I'm with Kalman, I hope Obama nominates Jane Kelly. Seems like she would have a much better chance politically. Jane Kelly the XCOM operative?
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Charliegrs posted:Has obstruction been anything but successful for the republicans since Obama has been in office? They will pay no political price if they somehow drag out a confirmation until after Obama leaves office. The difference is that this fight is going to be roughly a billion times more public and significant than anything that has happened so far. Most people don't follow cabinet nominees, but people won't be able to ignore this if they try. This is gonna be yuge. Yuge!
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corn in the bible posted:obama should nominate hillary Shimrra Jamaane posted:Offer Bernie the seat, I'm only half joking. And now my excitement is gone.
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this is starting right now. e: He sounds so robotic and uncaring (not surprising, I guess). He's being very blunt that he's going to nominate someone and the Senate needs to do their jobs. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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Ninkobei posted:Looking forward to the Whitehouse rebuttal: The American people did elect someone, and he serves for 4 years, not 3. I'd love to know what Obama was thinking when he heard the news. I can't think of any justice he got along with less. Or one that openly hated Obama less. Bin Laden, Scalia... who will be third? Every president gets 3 after all. Conservatives hate Roberts for the ACA though and this will make him hated even more. Which I'm fine with because the more the GOP hates Roberts the better the chances of him completely breaking one day and going full gently caress You Dad to the GOP.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Bin Laden, Scalia... who will be third? Every president gets 3 after all. Do you mean the Presidential seal's secret power to kill anyone, usable only three times by each President?
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My dad thinks Obama was disrespectful for not wearing a tie.
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Evil Fluffy posted:this is starting right now. And he's done. That was probably the shortest Obama speech I've heard.
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hypnorotic posted:My dad thinks Obama was disrespectful for not wearing a tie. Ties are illegal in Rancho Mirage, CA.
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hypnorotic posted:My dad thinks Obama was disrespectful for not wearing a tie. 
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So is this Srinivasan guy going to be cool and good, or is he another center-right establishment tool but likes gays and abortion?
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So I heard about Scalia and came to this thread. Hit the "last seen" button and it skipped me to this post:Rygar201 posted:What happens if a Justice dies between arguments and the release of opinions? Does the replacement Justice get to vote? Do they reargue? 
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hypnorotic posted:My dad thinks Obama was disrespectful for not wearing a tie. That kind of subtle fuckery is one of the reasons I love 8th-year Obama. Tommah posted:the ruling of the lower court holds as nonbinding precedent as i understand it It wouldn't be non-binding, it would still be binding but only in that particular Circuit.
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Jack Gladney posted:So is this Srinivasan guy going to be cool and good, or is he another center-right establishment tool but likes gays and abortion? Uh, what do you mean by "another"?
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I'm curious, what happens with Scalia's clerks? Do they just mill around awkwardly until the year is over, are they reassigned, or what? they update their resumes
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hypnorotic posted:My dad thinks Obama was disrespectful for not wearing a tie. As opposed to thinking he was disrespectful for what he said about him?
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SedanChair posted:I like how Scalia is dead. This. I'm out of Internet contact all day, having a nice Saturday afternoon with the kids, and I get back to the news that Antonin loving Scalia is dead, he's dead Jerry, are you loving kidding me?!?
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mdemone posted:This. I took a nap and when I woke up one of my life nemeses has eaten and then kicked the bucket. I'm of mixed emotions.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:The difference is that this fight is going to be roughly a billion times more public and significant than anything that has happened so far. Most people don't follow cabinet nominees, but people won't be able to ignore this if they try. This is gonna be yuge. Yuge! Man, I wish people cared this much. Most people couldnt even tell you how many Supreme Court justices there are. Only political wonky type people are going to care or even know about the impending confirmation clusterfuck we are headed for. Thats why I dont think this will have much of an effect on the presidential election.
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berserker posted:I took a nap and when I woke up one of my life nemeses has eaten and then kicked the bucket. I'm of mixed emotions. Was it an unpleasant nap or something? Crick in your neck?
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