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Max Hammer posted:Holy Christ, thank you for this. I didn't remember this game AT ALL, until I played that YouTube clip. Then it all came crashing back to me, all the hours I spent just racing around. And the graphics at the time were UNBELIEVABLE OMG!!! had a fairly similar reaction, filled the space in my brain that remembered "weapon-car game with crazy-haired man yelling at you" i'm still trying to figure out the identity of an old isometric RPG where you needed a mirror shield before entering medusa's chamber, and also you could make your character walk around totally naked and it was very funny to me, a child.
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Jerry Cotton posted:There was a game (I'm thinking 80s) where it would delete a character from the diskette every time you died. I don't know what would have happened if you ran out of player characters About 10-12 years ago, someone in the game industry (I want to say Peter Molyneux, but I'm not 100% sure) said something about disliking how people don't read the instructions to a game before they start playing it, leading them to make a lot of bad criticisms and bad playing habits. I don't know if they were serious or not, but whoever it was said something like if they could make a game that you only had a single life in, and once you died, you had to buy it again, they would. The logic being something like that people would be forced to understand how to play the game before they even tried it, they'd spend time reading the manual, understanding the mechanics, paying attention to tutorial levels until you were 100% certain on how to play, etc.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I read an article literally a few days ago that said those books are now available online free. That's cool. The one I have is an omnibus edition actually, the second two sections of mine are on that site (Introduction to Computer Programming: BASIC for Beginners and Computer Spacegames)
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Max Hammer posted:Holy Christ, thank you for this. I didn't remember this game AT ALL, until I played that YouTube clip. Then it all came crashing back to me, all the hours I spent just racing around. And the graphics at the time were UNBELIEVABLE OMG!!! Apparently Megarace's soundtrack is also by Stéphane Picq, which makes sense being that it's a Cryo game.
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I finally figured out what that nickelodeon thing was. Nickelodeon Director's Lab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDU8kmU-zuM
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Feb 13, 2016 08:39
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My game consoles. I need to see if I can get the Odyssey to work with a modern TV
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Buttcoin purse posted:
http://www.somethingawful.com/feature-articles/jeff-ks-flash/
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JediTalentAgent posted:About 10-12 years ago, someone in the game industry (I want to say Peter Molyneux, but I'm not 100% sure) said something about disliking how people don't read the instructions to a game before they start playing it, leading them to make a lot of bad criticisms and bad playing habits. I don't know if they were serious or not, but whoever it was said something like if they could make a game that you only had a single life in, and once you died, you had to buy it again, they would. The logic being something like that people would be forced to understand how to play the game before they even tried it, they'd spend time reading the manual, understanding the mechanics, paying attention to tutorial levels until you were 100% certain on how to play, etc. Molyneux is one of the worst game designers ever. If it weren't for the spectrum, he would've been out of the business a long time ago. e: Yeah sure Syndicate and Fable were playable but they're the odd men out.
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Every molyneux game ive played has been poo poo and he strikes me as the type to defend them as misunderstood so i bet that quote is from him. Might as well be.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:33
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I was trying to find the quote to see who to attribute it to and have discovered there are games in recent years doing just that. http://kotaku.com/if-you-die-in-this-game-you-can-never-play-again-ever-1690928265 http://steamed.kotaku.com/new-first-person-shooter-will-lock-out-your-steam-accou-1737430269
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JediTalentAgent posted:I was trying to find the quote to see who to attribute it to and have discovered there are games in recent years doing just that. And then you publish DLC giving you one more life. Each month or so.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Molyneux is one of the worst game designers ever. If it weren't for the spectrum, he would've been out of the business a long time ago. Was he involved in Dungeon Keeper at all? That was good.
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I hate Peter Molyneux. I haven't really played his games but he seems so smug about his games being so amazing that I don't want to.
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Cojawfee posted:I hate Peter Molyneux. I haven't really played his games but he seems so smug about his games being so amazing that I don't want to. He's just one of those old rock and roll celebrity game designers who made a couple of great games 20-30 years ago and can't cut it anymore. None of the other rock star designers, except Richard Garriott can match his ego, but Lord British is charming in a crazy way. e: I really wanted that Erich Chahi Populus rip-off to be good, but it wasn't.
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If Molyneux had had modern resources when he made Populous, it probably would've sucked.
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Jerry Cotton posted:If Molyneux had had modern resources when he made Populous, it probably would've sucked. Good point, he probably would have made individual AIs for every mob and have them pass their eye color off to their kids at the expense of all the cool spells that let you flood and lava the bad dudes.
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BgRdMchne posted:Was he involved in Dungeon Keeper at all? That was good.
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BgRdMchne posted:Was he involved in Dungeon Keeper at all? That was good. He was. For that and Syndicate I am ready to forgive him for other transgressions. Altough this wasn't too bad: 
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The only Peter Molyneux game that I've knowingly played was Black and White. I got really into it for a while, then I hit that bug (or was it a feature?) where you can't progress to the next level, got fed up, and uninstalled it. I revisited it later after reading some guides and applying a patch or something, and tried again. In my awe of learning the world the first time around, I found that it was actually tedious micro-management to get your people to do what they should be doing on their own--ie. making enough food to live, getting enough lumber to build, etc. I got fed up all over again and uninstalled it again. It was a pretty game, just really tedious if you wanted to progress at all.
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Also Theme Park, that was Molyneux too. Even the games universally hated on the internet were pretty good, they just couldn't live up to the hype that he caused around them. If it weren't for the hype they would've been pretty decent for their time. I don't even really believe he hyped them so much for selfish motives. There are people a lot worse in this industry.
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With all I've heard about him over the years he seems like the videogame industry's equivalent of Lucas; very good at core concepts but runs away with feature creep and dilutes his games into a shallow overstretched mess if he isn't questioned.
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Wintermutant posted:While we're on the subject of obsolete MP3 players, this was my first one: Mom got myself and three brothers these for Christmas instead of iPods. They still, loving, work.
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Keith Atherton posted:My game consoles. I need to see if I can get the Odyssey to work with a modern TV Because of this thread, when I went over to my parent's house this week I went up in the attic and started digging through boxes. Just when I thought all hope was lost, I stumbled upon my Sega Master System. And the 48 games that went along with it. I plugged it in and it started right up. All of the games still work perfectly. I am SO glad they didn't sell the whole collection to someone at one of their garage sales for $5. And now I have a chance to take another crack at a game I NEVER got to beat as a child:   That game reminded me of something I'm nostalgic about old games: some of them you needed to take notes. With Zillion, you piece together a new 'unlock' code with every room you enter, but it's 4 characters (odd shapes) and you need to enter them in order. So you sit with your pen and notepad, playing this game, and after a few hours you have and entire page filled with what looks like an alien language. Here, found a picture of the characters used:  God, that game was fantastic. Now I've got to go play it.
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Doompants posted:Mom got myself and three brothers these for Christmas instead of iPods. They still, loving, work. That was my second MP3 player. This was my first. 32mb of Chumbawumba, Weird Al, and Blue Man Group.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:That was my second MP3 player. This was my first. 32mb of Chumbawumba, Weird Al, and Blue Man Group. haha drat what ever happened to rio?? they just sort of disappeared it seems like
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ahh that reminds me of the days of proprietary audio formats like RealAudio that required you to download this bullshit software on every PC worst thing ever. now that i think about it though... didn't Real have a really early streaming music library service a la Spotify? I can't think of the name of it right now but I'm pretty sure they did and of course they hosed it up (that and the timing was wrong). now the company does... who the gently caress knows their website is a mess some vague cloud storage poo poo haha: http://www.real.com/ is that domain name their most valuable asset at this poitn?
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thathonkey posted:haha drat what ever happened to rio?? they just sort of disappeared it seems like Apparently they were bought out in 2002 and are now owned by a company who also own Denon and Boston Acoustics. After my DellDJ died I bought a Zune. Let me tell you about all the exciting things my Zune could do;
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youll sometimes come across people who are weirdly into zune and are genuinely mad that MS stopped making new ones. ive never used one personally. it's maybe a slight stretch to consider the original ipod a relic but the scroll wheel was awesome:  physical controls are good for some things, touch is good for some things  maybe i'm just old but the original ipod was way more usable than fuckin itunes shitshow app on my iphone 6.
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Max Hammer posted:That game reminded me of something I'm nostalgic about old games: some of them you needed to take notes. With Zillion, you piece together a new 'unlock' code with every room you enter, but it's 4 characters (odd shapes) and you need to enter them in order. So you sit with your pen and notepad, playing this game, and after a few hours you have and entire page filled with what looks like an alien language. Here, found a picture of the characters used: Zillion was one of the best games for the Sega Master System. The symbols are numbers with their mirror image on the left. That realization blew my mind as a kid.
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Max Hammer posted:Because of this thread, when I went over to my parent's house this week I went up in the attic and started digging through boxes. Just when I thought all hope was lost, I stumbled upon my Sega Master System. And the 48 games that went along with it. I plugged it in and it started right up. All of the games still work perfectly. I am SO glad they didn't sell the whole collection to someone at one of their garage sales for $5. And now I have a chance to take another crack at a game I NEVER got to beat as a child: Impossible Mission on the C64. gently caress I hated that decryption puzzle.
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Howard Beale posted:Zillion was one of the best games for the Sega Master System. The symbols are numbers with their mirror image on the left. That realization blew my mind as a kid. That realization just blew my mind right now. Holy poo poo! I did not know that's what they were. Thank you for that awesome piece of trivia knowledge. For me, Zillion was by far the best game I played on that system. But in close 2nd and 3rd were Alex Kidd in High Tech World and Fantasy Zone. Oh, and Choplifter was pretty bad rear end too.
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:
You're thinking of The Immortal. An awesome but frustrating game that makes Dark Souls look like Barbie's Pony Adventure. I never could complete it because I never did find the Mirror Shield.
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thathonkey posted:youll sometimes come across people who are weirdly into zune and are genuinely mad that MS stopped making new ones. ive never used one personally. I bought an original iPod when they came out with a Windows version. You had to install a third party file management program for your PC which was a lot worse than iTunes. I have a 3rd gen iPod too that I fired up recently and I tried touch scrolling the screen and thought it was broken because nothing happened. iTunes is a mess and I hate using it. It served its purpose well way back when but there are so many added features now it's a pain in the rear end to figure out the simplest things. I wish I could just plug my phone into my PC, have iTunes come up with a dialog box with a button that says "Update and Backup this iPhone" and come back a half hour later and have everything backed up and updated. They should have bit the bullet and rebuilt the UI from the ground up years ago.
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I miss having a dedicated MP3 player with physical buttons because playing music off an iPhone while driving is a huge pain in the rear end.
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thathonkey posted:ahh that reminds me of the days of proprietary audio formats like RealAudio that required you to download this bullshit software on every PC I watched some episodes of South Park in their entirety on that thing back in 98. Streaming. 56 kbps.
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Jisei posted:You're thinking of The Immortal. An awesome but frustrating game that makes Dark Souls look like Barbie's Pony Adventure. I never could complete it because I never did find the Mirror Shield. Awesome, thank you. Now I can rest.
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Negrostrike posted:I watched some episodes of South Park in their entirety on that thing back in 98. I remember back in high school someone bragging about how they could download a half hour episode of south park....in just one hour  They were talking about some postage stamp resolution .rm thing too probably.
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Jisei posted:You're thinking of The Immortal. An awesome but frustrating game that makes Dark Souls look like Barbie's Pony Adventure. I never could complete it because I never did find the Mirror Shield. Pretty sure what he's describing is not in fact the Immortal but something else. There are no Medusa's/Mirror Shields/Nakedness in it that I'm aware of. Sorry to be a buzz kill.
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