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I think the Wizard paint scheme is available for both the F-16XL and the Black Widow II. The latter might have been a lucky drop, but I'm not sure.
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I have to wonder, did any of the Ace Combats have the F-19 (which was the curved wing plane that the media speculated about while the F-117 was being developed, if memory serves). Or had tghe F-117 already dropped so the magic was gone? Because gently caress it, if they're going to put test beds in as squadron or production aircraft, why not?
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Veloxyll posted:I have to wonder, did any of the Ace Combats have the F-19 (which was the curved wing plane that the media speculated about while the F-117 was being developed, if memory serves). Or had tghe F-117 already dropped so the magic was gone? The F-117 was public knowledge by the time the series began, yes. Ace Combat, to its credit, has largely stayed away from the oogie boogie speculative fighters. The only two exceptions I know of are the Aurora in Electrosphere (the speculative SR-71 replacement that never materialized), and the FB-22 Strike Raptor, which was proposed as a fighter bomber variant of the F/A-22, but spiked by the USAF before a single plane was ever built. I'm still kind of peeved though that PA's love for test planes and prototypes only covers America and Europe, because I would kill to see the Avro Arrow in an Ace Combat game 
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I think it's a market-driven decision if anything but I agree, I'd love to see more non-American and non-Russian planes make it in, prototype, production, you name it. The entire UK aviation industry produced some wild-looking aircraft that would be totally fine aesthetically in Ace Combat, much less stuff like an Arrow. You get your token Saab product and a Harrier maybe and then ...meh. also older jets but I think we've discussed Ace Combat: Area 88 Edition being probably the best game ever made which is why it'll never happen. e: vvv same Psion fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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I'd love to see the English Electric Lightning in AC7 but I know it's just not going to happen.
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I really want some Chinese jets in the games at least for more variety.
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nine-gear crow posted:The F-117 was public knowledge by the time the series began, yes. Ace Combat, to its credit, has largely stayed away from the oogie boogie speculative fighters. The only two exceptions I know of are the Aurora in Electrosphere (the speculative SR-71 replacement that never materialized), and the FB-22 Strike Raptor, which was proposed as a fighter bomber variant of the F/A-22, but spiked by the USAF before a single plane was ever built. Meanwhile HAWX 1 didn't give two shits about that and just went full bore with mostly useless aircraft. Amongst the aircraft available were: A-12 Avenger II - A prototype US Navy stealth strike aircraft that went nowhere if I recall right. SR-71 Blackbird - Yes, this thing was flyable in this game. YF-21A - The prototype precursor to the SR-71. YF-17 Cobra - The plane that later became the F-18. F-18 HARV - Which was a NASA research jet in the 80's and 90's. F-18 RC - Recon variant of the 18D Hornet. Odd choice when both the F-18C and the F/A-18 Super Hornet are already available to you. FB-22 Strike Raptor - Pretty much the best attacker in the game if the stats are to be believed. Mig-MFI - Also known as Mikoyan Project 1.44. Mirage 4000 - Prototype upgrade for the Mirage 2000 built in the 1980s, only one prototype ever built. RF-15 Peak Eagle - Apparently a recon variant of the F-15C. Only reference I can find of this though is via a Tom Clancy wiki as the normal wiki is mum about it. It also featured the F-15 S/MTD as the F-15 ACTIVE, the YF-23 as the Black Widow II, the X-29 and the SU-47. The strangest choice of plane was probably the XA-20 Razorback, which apparently was a plane featured in EndWar. And still got beaten by the F-22 in terms of stats according to the hangar listing.  (According to a wiki I found it comes equipped with two GAU-8s even.)Funny enough the last plane you unlocked at level 39 was the Rafale M, which is the carrier based version of it. I'm not sure if that is them running out of ideas or just French bias. It also was a bit of a dick where certain plains had zero special features, even advanced versions of other planes. The F-14D Super Tomcat for instance had no special features what so ever while the other two variants did. Otherwise the available aircraft for HAWX1 is a somewhat weird choice since they mix freely with both modern and a bunch of mid to late cold war jets. I will however leave you with this gem: "Tom Clancy Wiki posted:The FB-22 (sometimes known as the Strike Raptor[2]) is an incredible plane. Designed to replace the F-15E Strike Eagle, it has a delta wing and a longer fuselage and better range than its air-superiority version, the F-22 Raptor. It is designed so that it can carry more ordnance in a stealth ordnance pod, allowing it to have a bigger payload while keeping its stealth. However, despite its capabilities, it was cancelled in 2006 in favor of a bomber with a longer range. However, if developed, it would be a competitor to the A-20 Razorback and the YF-23 Black Widow II.
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Wait was the SR-71 only in some special recon stealth mission or could it actually conduct combat operations?
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Psion posted:I think it's a market-driven decision if anything but I agree, I'd love to see more non-American and non-Russian planes make it in, prototype, production, you name it. It's also an issue of licensing too. Just about every modern AC game starts with one, if not multiple screens of copyright information sucking off the big defense contractors like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Dassault, et al. for letting them use their actual planes rather than come up with weird knock offs like some other budget flight sims are forced to do. There's probably some planes they just can't get the rights to use. I can imagine that's why there's no Chinese planes in the games.
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I thought I was an Ace Combat fan but some of the poo poo you're digging up in the ancillary posts is impressive, crow. Keep it up.
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Dreamsicle posted:Wait was the SR-71 only in some special recon stealth mission or could it actually conduct combat operations?
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Okay, so: A U D I E N C E | P A R T I C I P A T I O N | T I M E Since we're fast approaching the end of the LP; I'm hoping to have the final mission and accompanying videos up by next Saturday, assuming I can pin Blind Sally down for one final recording session before then; I would like to take stock of things in preparation for the upcoming post-mortem loving around video. With that, I'm asking: What would you like to see me show off / do in Ace Combat Zero that you haven't seen yet (to the best of my abilities)? And please, no bullshit "UGB a plane huuurrr  " requests.Here's what I'm already planning to show off just to give you some ideas:
Etc., etc. So think about it and post your requests in the thread and I will try to work them in to the video(s). Beyond that, once I finish with Zero, I will be taking a short break before starting Ace Combat 2, probably like 2 to 3 weeks, primarily to 1) actually play through 2 completely so I'm not making a blind rear end out of myself trying to LP it, 2) give Lunethex and ACES some breathing time to finish Electrosphere and Mercenary Mode, and 3) just relax and maybe read a drat book or something, I dunno. If anyone also feels like bravely jumping in and doing a Soldier run through the game just to complete the Ace Style trifecta, I'm not opposed to that either. I will leave the thread open for as long as it takes for Lune and ACES to finish up their work, but just be forewarned that AC2 (and all other games from here out) will have its own thread separate from this one. I'll put the link to the new thread in this topic when it goes live and just in case when I close the this thread I will also make sure to link to the AC2 thread in the final post. Thank you all for your time.
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It's going to take more than a few weeks to finish Electrosphere let me tell you. Well...ok to be fair if I wasn't lazy I could sit down a few days, get it all hammered out and there you go. But my XCOM  In all seriousness I did record the last of UPEO.
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radintorov posted:Unarmed reconnaissance only. I mean in HAWX.
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Well I wouldn't mind if somebody finished the last boss with guns only because it's quite entertaining to do (and fits the game's motifs better than missiles). It hasn't even got to be in ace difficulty.
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Complete any mission on Ace difficulty. Alternatively, complete the Excalibur mission where you're only allowed to use missiles against planes.
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Dreamsicle posted:I mean in HAWX. No, in HAWX it's basically a plane like any other except maybe its top speed is slightly higher than usual. Not that it's easy to tell given how Flight Assist On flight works in that game. (ie: not very well )
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nine-gear crow posted:With that, I'm asking: What would you like to see me show off / do in Ace Combat Zero that you haven't seen yet (to the best of my abilities)? And please, no bullshit "UGB a plane huuurrr Ace Combat Zero has multiplayer that I used to play with my brother quite a bit. Maybe you could show that?
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Do you plan on showing off the Gauntlet, Crow? That might be worth bringing up (and it'd be the best place to show off the bonus planes).
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nine-gear crow posted:Okay, so: Secret and super planes Gauntlet Ace Run (with special boss) Full motion video sequence starring you Use an unguided bomb
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I've actually done The Gauntlet on Ace for crow, and once I get the rest of my poo poo up to date (I have everything recorded, and like five vids with commentary sitting in  limbo), I'll have him post it.So don't worry, you'll at least get to see that.
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Use a fighter with EW.
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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IronSaber posted:Use a fighter with EW. One of the secret planes has it as a subweapon, and it's also the worst subweapon because it's loving BORING compared to the other two.
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nine-gear crow posted:
Whatever else you do? Fly the first mission in the most overpowered plane in the game.
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nine-gear crow posted:
 I would suggest doing it in the A-10, but I already did it and the Mig-21 is one of the few planes I didn't try to use for that.
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UGB a carrier. It's practically a plane! But it's on the
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Redo the entire LP using only the F-35 while pretending it's a good plane.
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Play Mayhem again in a J-35, guns only.
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Are you mad? We can't use [INFORMATION REDACTED]! It doesn't even have legs yet!
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I figured it'd be a good way to give a certain someone a taste of their own medicine after a (presumably) canon Cipher victory. Also because it just wrecks the penultimate mission, which really isn't a fun ride when using the F-15C or any other mid-level to entry-level planes. Speaking of which, I'll also throw in a challenge/request for re-finishing the final mission on any difficulty using the F-15C in its "true" SP paint scheme. I'm not referring to the tiger-stripe one, if that helps.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Whatever else you do? Fly the first mission in the most overpowered plane in the game.
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radintorov posted:Do the final mission in the Mig-21bis. Winner! 
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Shei-kun posted:This. I want to see just how much the difficulty ramps up over time, and how much you can punch the game in the dick by going back with better stuff. The most overpowered plane makes just about every mission a joke.
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Alright, so far I have:
That's probably closing in an hour's worth of content, so I'm going to split the update into two videos: the stuff I was going to show off anyway, and then the viewer request stuff. So if anyone else wants to see anything, keep the requests coming. Edit: of the lot of them, the only one I can't promise I'll deliver on is Mayhem (Guns Only), just because it's a huge enemy-heavy mission, I suck at gun kills, and it has the potential to turn into a bore with how long its going to be. Be prepared for corner cutting and loophole abuse, is all I'm saying 
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I'll add in : best the final boss with a FAB .
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Veloxyll posted:UGB a carrier. My suggestion is basically this, but use guns instead. Preferably destroy it in one pass, too.
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I'm developing an aggravation for the endgames of Ace Combat 3 because all the battles eventually boil down to luck and the game is cheating so massively for the AI planes and it's all down to the way they fire missiles. I plan on going over it in the video but it's like the biggest heap of bullshit ever that I have to say something about it now. Basically if you get a missile fired at you, you can't do anything about it. You're totally hosed, because the way it tracks you is it knows exactly where you're going and where to hit you center mass. It literally trails alongside your plane until it can slam into the middle of it. No matter what kind of turns you do, no matter how you fly, if you get shot at, it's game over and it royally pissed me off when I recorded the General Resource route. The only way to win is to not get shot at which means watching the wolfpack of planes surrounding you and making sure nobody is coming in at you from a particular but recognizable angle, because when they do they will always shoot and always hit. Oh and you'll waste like 10 missiles per enemy plane sometimes because they can dodge everything in ways you should be able to but can't. It puts the QAAMs of AC4 to shame. Oh and the missiles always fly faster than you. I get a plane that can go over Mach 4 and it happened. So imagine all this surrounded by 8 planes all out for your rear end. Also there's literally roving gangs of warplanes that when shot at disperse and engage as normal but even when not engaged they still fly around in perfect formation and will do the above. And to feed my pride for A ranks, you have to win under a timer in the next UPEO mission. When I made the first recording of it I did so well I thought I instinctively got past the difficulty of it. Then I got a B rank because of the timer. Then I died about 30 times off camera learning exactly how all this stuff I just typed up works to get the A rank. Basically to sum it all up: 
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Actually, I think a while ago I thought I saw someone literally downed acz's final boss fight with UGB. The same was also doable in Assault Horizon as well... Edit: I found the ACZ ugb clearing on youtube. SPOILER WARNING!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9hCUb9-zwo Skwerl fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 14, 2016 |
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Can you catch up to and shoot down Pixy after he defects using a sufficiently overpowered plane or cheats?
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