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El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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meatpimp posted:

The KC Tools sale Wiha Micro kit showed up today. Holy gently caress. That is straight-up tool porn for me.

I have worked with a lot of machinists and mechanics that had metal-cased nice sets of things before, but I have never bought a new set like that... with an outside box... and the metal box inside, perfect, no scratches or previous owner's initials carved in it... wow. That is a kick-rear end set that triggers things from my way-back memory.

Awesome set, thanks again for the suggestion, sharkytm!

I got it home and explained to my wife that I bought it just before I had to spend a bunch of money on a suit and tux. She was not happy that I spent so much on a small set. Then when I brought out the case and showed them to her she exclaimed that she was impressed and good job getting such nice stuff for so cheap!

It is such a nice set, I'm really looking forward to playing around with it tomorrow and dismantling some computers and controllers and poo poo.

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Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

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Anyone here used the Solar brand battery capacitance testers?

Thought it seemed like a great way to actually test out batteries and the starting/charging system, and was just curious to get goon consensus before I drop 70$

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009
These are some of the best tool carts money can buy. There is now three in my shop all bought with in a month after I brought mine to the shop. Three different shops and a Chrysler Sebring being dropped on the front and it still functions like new.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

SouthsideSaint posted:

These are some of the best tool carts money can buy. There is now three in my shop all bought with in a month after I brought mine to the shop. Three different shops and a Chrysler Sebring being dropped on the front and it still functions like new.




I like mine.
Gotta have my side flap. Super handy to clamp poo poo to it for grinding, drilling, cutting wire brushing etc...


I will say I had to work at the sister shop on the other side of town to cover for a guy so I would throw all my poo poo into the lower drawer and work out of that. In the process i broke one of the bearing plates and they have been taking loving forever like 2 months now to replace it. That said, the new snapon guy is a loving retard and im pretty sure on drugs a lot of the time.

Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 14, 2016

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

I've got the red HF version with the side tray and it's wonderful

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

SouthsideSaint posted:

These are some of the best tool carts money can buy. There is now three in my shop all bought with in a month after I brought mine to the shop. Three different shops and a Chrysler Sebring being dropped on the front and it still functions like new.



What magnet do you have on your lid, there? I've been thinking of getting one for my HF cart to stick pliers and scissors to.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Can someone recommend a small tool cart? I just want something to throw sockets and wrenches onto when I'm in the garage.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Uthor posted:

What magnet do you have on your lid, there? I've been thinking of getting one for my HF cart to stick pliers and scissors to.

It's the magnet strip HF sells.

Elmnt80 And for a service cart I'd check out HF for a beater cart with a top for basically holding poo poo so you don't have to walk back to your box. Or you work for oreillys. The one by me has a small blue cart for cheap often.

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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I went back a few pages and couldn't find them, who makes the bendable socket rails? I want to order all of them! I feel like it was a tool box manufacturer but I couldn't remember which one?

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

I don't know who makes them, but

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ortt/

has them for sale.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Edit: beaten.

It was some off road safari expedition type site: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ortt/

TACTICAL SANDALS
Nov 7, 2009

click clack POW, officer down

El Jebus posted:

I went back a few pages and couldn't find them, who makes the bendable socket rails? I want to order all of them! I feel like it was a tool box manufacturer but I couldn't remember which one?

These guys?


I got them from Off Road Trail Tools: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ortt/

They're great, I can throw them in my small tool bag and they fit easily. They seem to be solidly made out of recycled dildo materials.

edit: jfc

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

SouthsideSaint posted:

It's the magnet strip HF sells.

Why didn't I just assume HF had one?

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

Elmnt80 posted:

Can someone recommend a small tool cart? I just want something to throw sockets and wrenches onto when I'm in the garage.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...AQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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TACTICAL SANDALS posted:

These guys?


I got them from Off Road Trail Tools: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ortt/

They're great, I can throw them in my small tool bag and they fit easily. They seem to be solidly made out of recycled dildo materials.

edit: jfc

Thanks! Have to decide if I want those for impacts short and deep, regular short and deep, or all 4 in both metric and sae.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


SouthsideSaint posted:

It's the magnet strip HF sells.

Elmnt80 And for a service cart I'd check out HF for a beater cart with a top for basically holding poo poo so you don't have to walk back to your box. Or you work for oreillys. The one by me has a small blue cart for cheap often.

Oh right, I forget about that thing. Mostly because nobody actually asks us about it and they are just stashed in the corner.


Yeah, thats actually the exact tool cart we have at work. I really only need something half that size.

Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Feb 15, 2016

TACTICAL SANDALS
Nov 7, 2009

click clack POW, officer down

El Jebus posted:

Thanks! Have to decide if I want those for impacts short and deep, regular short and deep, or all 4 in both metric and sae.

I'd just get four, they're cheap enough. I'm gonna order a few more at some point in 1/4 and 1/2, already have 2 others in 3/8 that I use for deep and crow foot and misc stuff

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

Elmnt80 posted:

Yeah, thats actually the exact tool cart we have at work. I really only need something half that size.

Then Good News!

http://www.uline.com/Product/ProductDetailRootItem?modelnumber=H-2503

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

OSU_Matthew posted:

Anyone here used the Solar brand battery capacitance testers?

Thought it seemed like a great way to actually test out batteries and the starting/charging system, and was just curious to get goon consensus before I drop 70$

I can't speak on that particular model, but how often do you plan on using it? My Jeep eats batteries, but I'd still rather take the battery (attached to the vehicle, if it'll still start) to the auto parts store and have them use their bigger/nicer unit to test my battery/starting/charging system for me once every couple years.

Blitter
Mar 16, 2011

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Elmnt80 posted:

Can someone recommend a small tool cart? I just want something to throw sockets and wrenches onto when I'm in the garage.



That uLine cart is probably worth the money, but I picked one of these up on sale for < $50 .. It's handy, and I like the way dirt just ends up where it belongs on the shop floor, instead of accumulating in the cart. I wouldn't trust it for much weight. (From IKEA - RÅSKOG - $69.99 cdn)

Blitter fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Feb 15, 2016

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Rubbermaid/Uline carts are beasts, love those things.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Blitter posted:



That uLine cart is probably worth the money, but I picked one of these up on sale for < $50 .. It's handy, and I like the way dirt just ends up where it belongs on the shop floor, instead of accumulating in the cart. I wouldn't trust it for much weight. (From IKEA - RÅSKOG - $69.99 cdn)

If you get one of these thread lock the nuts and bolts but otherwise I weigh 70ish kgs and this thing took my weight easily in the store.

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

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Pfffft, this is what you really need:



Just once, I want to see someone get one of these things :3:

For real though, Uline carts are top notch. I want to say their plastic bins are Akro Mills or some other heavy duty industrial manufacturer.

e:

Cat Hatter posted:

I can't speak on that particular model, but how often do you plan on using it? My Jeep eats batteries, but I'd still rather take the battery (attached to the vehicle, if it'll still start) to the auto parts store and have them use their bigger/nicer unit to test my battery/starting/charging system for me once every couple years.
Probably once or twice a year, maybe more it seems? Between a motorcycle, jump pack, and four cars (two of which don't get driven much), it seems like I'm always dealing with dead or lovely batteries. In fact, I've got a battery that's barely over a year old and won't take a charge after being jumped and driven around for an hour. I'm getting 14v at the generator, and my "smart charger" won't charge it, so it'd be nice to have some quantitative confirmation it's poo poo before I take it back to the auto parts store

Catatron Prime fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Feb 15, 2016

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

OSU_Matthew posted:

Probably once or twice a year, maybe more it seems? Between a motorcycle, jump pack, and four cars (two of which don't get driven much), it seems like I'm always dealing with dead or lovely batteries. In fact, I've got a battery that's barely over a year old and won't take a charge after being jumped and driven around for an hour. I'm getting 14v at the generator, and my "smart charger" won't charge it, so it'd be nice to have some quantitative confirmation it's poo poo before I take it back to the auto parts store

Personally I'd rather spend the money on (smart) battery tenders so the batteries don't die in the first place. The thing is, if a battery is still under warranty they're going to require that you leave it with them while they try and charge it for a few hours and then test it with their own meter. If it isn't under warranty and you can't charge it (might need a dumb charger to get it going if its stone-dead) then you're screwed and need a new battery anyway.

I understand wanting to be absolutely sure of whats wrong before going shopping because I do it too, but in my opinion $70 is a bit much for a device that tells you that the battery you were 80% sure was dead is actually dead. If it was me, I'd get three decent float chargers (http://amzn.com/B0009IBJAS), hook one to the motorcycle, two to the cars I don't drive, and pocket the $2.50 I saved and then not have to keep replacing batteries in the first place.

Root Bear
Nov 15, 2004

DARKEST SKETCH
I've been using one of these at work for about two years now. It's been holding up quite well so far:



http://www.harborfreight.com/30-in-large-350-lb-capacity-glossy-red-service-cart-with-locking-drawer-61161.html

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug

OSU_Matthew posted:

Pfffft, this is what you really need:



Just once, I want to see someone get one of these things :3:

An acquaintance of mine has one. It's very nice, but for the price, there's a whole lotta poo poo I'd buy before that one.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Blitter posted:



That uLine cart is probably worth the money, but I picked one of these up on sale for < $50 .. It's handy, and I like the way dirt just ends up where it belongs on the shop floor, instead of accumulating in the cart. I wouldn't trust it for much weight. (From IKEA - RÅSKOG - $69.99 cdn)

My wife surprised me with one of these last week. It's surprisingly nice, and very compact. I'm using it for holding parts when I do assemble work, but I don't know how well it would survive in a garage.

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

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bolind posted:

An acquaintance of mine has one. It's very nice, but for the price, there's a whole lotta poo poo I'd buy before that one.

Exactly, that's why I want someone else to buy one!

Cat Hatter posted:

Personally I'd rather spend the money on (smart) battery tenders so the batteries don't die in the first place. The thing is, if a battery is still under warranty they're going to require that you leave it with them while they try and charge it for a few hours and then test it with their own meter. If it isn't under warranty and you can't charge it (might need a dumb charger to get it going if its stone-dead) then you're screwed and need a new battery anyway.

I understand wanting to be absolutely sure of whats wrong before going shopping because I do it too, but in my opinion $70 is a bit much for a device that tells you that the battery you were 80% sure was dead is actually dead. If it was me, I'd get three decent float chargers (http://amzn.com/B0009IBJAS), hook one to the motorcycle, two to the cars I don't drive, and pocket the $2.50 I saved and then not have to keep replacing batteries in the first place.
Thanks for the link! I've been looking at picking up a proper dedicated float charger... I've got a HF "float charger", but it's kinda junk and I hate leaving it plugged in unattended since it's not a real float charger but just a low amp slow charger. But it did work to push enough life into the battery in question so my oxford battery maximizer smart charger would finally pick detect the battery to charge it back up.

I think you're probably right though, 70$ is kind of a lot to spend on that kind of thing. Just out of curiosity, is there any kind of push to adopt lithium batteries in cars? I know that's a popular option for motorcycles, but wasn't sure if the economy/longevity makes sense for cars in the same way. That tester doubly wouldn't make sense if lead acid was being surpassed by lithium in a decade or so anyways.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
The only reason people are using lithium in cars is for track use, at this point. Here's a few reasons:
- it's ungodly expensive compared to building a lead acid battery
- it's a fire hazard if you don't add some charge balancing circuitry. A very... vigorous fire hazard.
- lithium batteries really, really do not like to be charged below freezing, and dislike being drawn from below freezing almost as much.
- they are light but that weight savings comes at a cost.
- you really want some sort of puncture/physical damage prevention armor. Tesla uses a titanium skidplate, various other companies use high strength steel plates, etc etc.

Most electric/hybrid vehicles using lithium chemistries have some sort of advanced heating/cooling system that keeps the battery pack at a manageable temperature, and an SoC (state-of-charge) management system that keeps the batteries from setting things on fire and/or within their preferred charge level range (discharge too far and they die and/or set fire to things, charge above 90-95% and you hurt your charge cycle lifespan.)

e: also, most, but not all aftermarket "racing" lithium battery manufacturers fall into one of a few groups. Good, and expensive. Skeezy, lying fuckwads who overstate specs and blow smoke up your rear end about their "technology" and then you almost set your seven-figure prototype vehicle on fire as a direct result of trusting their marketing material. Cheap, and good, but made by some dude in his garage in florida from polycarbonate sheeting epoxied together into a box. Near as I can tell, A123RC (whose website is returning an SQL error right now, and ships direct from china), Shorai, AeroLithium*, and one other company that I forget the name of are the only lithium pack companies I'd seriously consider, and they require you to add your own external charge balancer. Braille, Ballistic, AeroVoltz, and most others are on the shitlist, after seeing how they're put together inside.

* holy poo poo, AeroLithium upgraded their website from 1993 geocities to a very respectable site and it looks like they aren't gluing the cases together from sheets of polycarb anymore. Their PCB designs for their balance chargers look pretty good too. They just went a lot further up the respected list in my opinion.

kastein fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Feb 16, 2016

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

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bolind posted:

An acquaintance of mine has one. It's very nice, but for the price, there's a whole lotta poo poo I'd buy before that one.

Looks like Beta has a similar cart for about $400 on eBay. I'm starting to want one, a lot.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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kastein posted:

Skeezy, lying fuckwads who overstate specs and blow smoke up your rear end about their "technology" and then you almost set your seven-figure prototype vehicle on fire as a direct result of trusting their marketing material.

Links to Ken's rant/teardown of a Braille piece of poo poo in the mechanical failures thread:

Part 1 and Part 2

Literally zero charge balancing of any kind. It might as well be a goddamn incendiary grenade. Yes, LiFePO4 is very forgiving, but it ain't that forgiving.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
It's very forgiving - and it actually is that forgiving... until one of the cell banks falls off the unbalanced-cell cliff and drops to fractions of a volt. Then suddenly it's 100% discharged (I should note that the discharged cells didn't catch fire, at least until seriously abused trying to recharge them unwittingly) and you're dumping your 14-15 volt automotive charging system voltage into a 3S pack for 4.67-5 volts per cell instead of a 4S pack for 3.5-3.75 volts per cell. LiFePO4 cells are incredibly tolerant of overcharging, and will handle about 4.2V per cell constant-charging without doing more than getting angry and hot, but 4.6+ volts per cell pushes them over the line pretty fast.

So basically, I agree, it's fine till it aint. Then it catches fire with great fervor.

I'm still kinda tempted to start up some sort of a proper lithium motor/aerosport battery company, but quite honestly, when I received my 4S3P 26650 pack from A123RC, I tore it down and they addressed 100% of the concerns I had with the Braille pack, and I am pretty certain you can buy premade charge balancing circuits to strap onto the side, so it's mostly a solved problem and I'm not sure there's a reason for another company to exist or enough of a market to be worth the risk. Buy your poo poo from A123RC (when their site is back up :lol:), Shorai, or the new and improved fifth-gen aerolithium product line, add periodic charge balancing or a modular charge balancing system to it as needed, and move on to the next problem.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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I was pretty certain you could buy premade charge balancers too but I'm having trouble finding stuff intended for lead-acid-replacement use. Most boards seem to have a separate charging input and power output, which isn't super useful in an automotive application.

There's also the top-of-cell balancers intended for the huge prismatic slab batteries people use in EVs, but again they seem to be centred around being regularly charged by a proper charger & only charging during use from brake regen.

My kingdom for a lead-acid-replacement BMS board! (or one of A123's lithium start batteries, which they won't sell to me :()

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I'd like the same thing, but with a GSS output, RTD input, and pushbutton "battery prime" input, for preheating the battery with a small warming blanket before attempting to start below 32F.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Kastein, what's the name of the abrasive supply company you've posted in the past? I need to order some cup brushes.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

It was probably http://www.lehighvalleyabrasives.com/

Or if not, those guys rule anyway.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Hypnolobster posted:

It was probably http://www.lehighvalleyabrasives.com/

Or if not, those guys rule anyway.

Lehigh is awesome. If you care, there are distributors on Pirate4x4 who have some coupons. I've also had luck on Amazon, but only occasionally. For example, I picked up four 20-count boxes of 4" Norton SwinStar flapwheels for like $11/box a few years ago.

Definitely don't skimp on abrasives. Cheap cutoff wheels are fragile and cut like crap. Cheap grinding discs load up, chip, cause cancer, and cut like crap. Cheap sanding discs shed abrasive. Cheap wire wheels shed wires. Wear a full face shield and glasses under it. I can speak from experience... got a wire stuck in my eyelid a few years ago. Just chance that it didn't stick me in the eyeball.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

sharkytm posted:

Lehigh is awesome. If you care, there are distributors on Pirate4x4 who have some coupons. I've also had luck on Amazon, but only occasionally. For example, I picked up four 20-count boxes of 4" Norton SwinStar flapwheels for like $11/box a few years ago.

Definitely don't skimp on abrasives. Cheap cutoff wheels are fragile and cut like crap. Cheap grinding discs load up, chip, cause cancer, and cut like crap. Cheap sanding discs shed abrasive. Cheap wire wheels shed wires. Wear a full face shield and glasses under it. I can speak from experience... got a wire stuck in my eyelid a few years ago. Just chance that it didn't stick me in the eyeball.

I stay away from cheap abrasives after having a few explode. No damage, but it scared me enough to buy a grinder with a brake and put the safety back on my 3" zip wheel. I've had good luck buying bulk lots of Metabo and 3M GreenCorps cutoff wheels off eBay/Zoro. Still reasonably priced and I trust the quality. I still have a TON of Pearl Abrasive sanding discs from a forum deal a few years back. We've worn all our cup brushes/wire wheels down to stubs at this point.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

Hypnolobster posted:

It was probably http://www.lehighvalleyabrasives.com/

Or if not, those guys rule anyway.

I believe that was it! Thanks!

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rally
Nov 19, 2002

yospos
Now I'm imagining all the Chinese grinding and cutoff wheels have a bunch of asbestos in them. Chalk it up to poo poo I've inhaled massive amounts of asbestos from I guess.

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