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The biggest problem with ME3 is it produced these last 10 pages.
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The Catalyst is just operating under the assumption that, given enough time, the probability of any event happening approaches 1. But it is only thinking about 'inevitable synthetic murder tour'.
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Feb 14, 2016 23:49
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Oh hey, there's a lot of activity in the thread, I wonder if some new information about Andromeda dropped! So has anybody heard anything new?
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Feb 15, 2016 03:46
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DarkHorse posted:Oh hey, there's a lot of activity in the thread, I wonder if some new information about Andromeda dropped! Bioware looked at this thread and cancelled MEA out of shame.
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Feb 15, 2016 03:49
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Waltzing Along posted:Bioware looked at this thread and cancelled MEA out of shame.
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Feb 15, 2016 03:56
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Dan Didio posted:If you absolutely wanted to tell a 'simpler, easier' Mass Effect trilogy, then it definitely would centre around the Geth being key to defeating the Reapers. I was really hoping that would have been part of it. The Geth have technology that rejected the Reaper's "gifts" meaning that the Reapers haven't managed to develop countermeasures for it yet. This advanced technology unknown to the Reapers would have been a great place to start with when looking for a potential trump card. That, alongside the assumption that faux-artistic bullshit would completely snow the audience like it did smug critics, is what really bugged me about this game: there were so many places the plot could have gone that were dropped for the most cliche, poorly-conceived options like Cerberus becoming Space-Cobra with infinite resources, the Reapers no suffering any negative impact from so many of their plans being disrupted, the Citadel control being ignored and so many other problems with this game's crappy writing.
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Feb 15, 2016 04:25
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Its weird how people keep harping on the fact that the Reapers are wrong. It doesn't matter. The reapers think that eventually AI will destroy all Organics if given enough times. They are wrong, or maybe their right. Who knows, and it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that it is what they have concluded will happen and that's what they act on.
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Feb 15, 2016 06:16
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No one is talking about the Reapers but Shepard, who buys into their bullshit completely.
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Feb 15, 2016 07:01
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Why do so many arguements in this thread use the catalyst as any kind of basis? There is a homeless guy behind my apartments and he provides better logic and nuanced inquiry into Control vs Synthesis with enough Wild Turkey. Let's assume for a second ME3 didn't end with the citadel DLC and the who Super Weapon Citadel thing isn't literally the worst and most insulting ending I've ever seen in a video game. The Catalyst is a Reaper thing. This is backed up by the fact it's surrounded by Reapers and has an indoctrinated guy living in his apartment with him. It also says it's a Reaper before babbling garbage. Reapers lie. Lie all the time, especially to stupid meatbags. ESPECIALLY to stupid meatbags when their domination plan is starating to crack and they need some idiot who has been gutshot to... do whatever it was Shepard did. I'm going to assume the three separate superweapons was some kind of injury hallucination, maybe he is reactivating the citadel gate for Reaper reinforcements. Or maybe a Shepard is activating a failsafe to nuke the jump gates. That is actually a pretty good idea on the Reaper's part, since it immediately wrecks all government and major resistance. It would explain the three ending slides as Reapers Win (control), then they assimilate the useful ones (synthesize) then purge some rogue AI (destroy). Shepard dreams it all as he leads it in his Indoctrinated mind. This theory actually works better then I thought it did at the start of writing this. It explains the Catalyst, the three "endings", and why the Reapers made sure the super weapon got built. Basically the entire Citadel ending with the Catalyst is terrible on multiple levels. It wraps around and even manages to make 1 and 2 worse. It's like disecting The Phantom Menace and using it to explain the first three Star Wars. Midichloreans: how did they affect Vader's actions in Empire? How did the memory of Jar Jar change Vaders thoughts of his son?
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Feb 15, 2016 07:10
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Doctor Borris posted:Basically the entire Citadel ending with the Catalyst is terrible on multiple levels. It wraps around and even manages to make 1 and 2 worse. It's like disecting The Phantom Menace and using it to explain the first three Star Wars. It is interesting. Youtube suggested a LP the other day of ME1 and I clicked, not having played it in a long time (not even having an Xbox 360 to play it on anymore). I wish a game could come CLOSE to the way that game made me feel the when I first booted it up and played through the first two hours. The possibilities that game opened up is something we can't really appreciate anymore. It was a game-changer, similar to Morrowind but somehow more, because we still get worked up about the universe it created. And as I was watching the LP and getting all nostaligic (there's a part where they watch an distress call and Soverign starts to land giving a Reaper horn/call) I remembered, "Oh ya, the payoff for this really really sucks." Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Feb 15, 2016 07:19
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I guess a lot of people had problems with the ending or story but as a whole I think these pale in comparison to the actual largest flaw of Mass Effect 3 - namely, the fact that you can only equip 1 sniper rifle, meaning that you cannot take the cool DLC sniper rifle that fires explosives and the Geth sniper rifle that charges up bullets and released them with the force of a water laser or something. I really wanted to have both at the same time. Sniping someone is really fun, but so is shooting a disk that explodes and kills everything around it.
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Feb 15, 2016 07:38
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Pook Good Mook posted:It is interesting. Youtube suggested a LP the other day of ME1 and I clicked, not having played it in a long time (not even having an Xbox 360 to play it on anymore). I wish a game could come CLOSE to the way that game made me feel the when I first booted it up and played through the first two hours. The possibilities that game opened up is something we can't really appreciate anymore. It was a game-changer, similar to Morrowind but somehow more, because we still get worked up about the universe it created. Regardless of how the ending is interpreted, the shitstorm it created must have had one hell of a deleterious effect on the Mass Effect brand and franchise as a whole. It'll be interesting to see how much Andromeda does to bring people back to the fold.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:13
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CharlestheHammer posted:The biggest problem with Mass Effect 3 is it assumes I care about the geth genociding organic, they should have done it IMO. They should have been my boyfriends.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:17
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Milky Moor posted:Regardless of how the ending is interpreted, the shitstorm it created must have had one hell of a deleterious effect on the Mass Effect brand and franchise as a whole. People who play video games always cave. It's Newton's final law.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:40
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It'll probably be a transparent crowdpleaser anyway. I will hate it and only enjoy the gay romances.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:44
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Milky Moor posted:Regardless of how the ending is interpreted, the shitstorm it created must have had one hell of a deleterious effect on the Mass Effect brand and franchise as a whole. I hated the ending and yet i already know i will buy Andromeda. Just like i always buy a new Football Manager game at release, even though for the past 10 years or so it has never been playable for the first six months due to all kinds of bugs. 
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Feb 15, 2016 08:45
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Same for me. I do it with each Assassins Creed to. I liked AC2 so much that each one i've bought after it and Brotherhood I have thought "I know they messed up the last one but THIS one might be where they turn it around!" Although I wouldn't say the ending was great i'm not of the opinion that it is as bad as the internet says.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:49
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The ending for ME3 was actually very dumb.
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Feb 15, 2016 08:54
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Skellybones posted:The ending for ME3 was actually very dumb. But is it dumber than this thread?
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Feb 15, 2016 09:30
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I think both the ending of Mass Effect 3, and this thread, kick rear end.
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Feb 15, 2016 09:36
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What the gently caress are SMGs and Pistols even for anyways. The only benefit they offer are the Power Damage Increase mods.
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Feb 15, 2016 09:36
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That's exactly the point, some of them work as poor mans' assault rifles, sniper rifles, or even shotguns for classes that want super fast power recharges.
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Feb 15, 2016 09:38
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I played the game all wrong, I just took a Venom Shotgun on my Vanguard and wasted the close-up advantage of Biotic Charge by only using my shotgun as a long-distance nuke. I blame the changes to Biotic Charge that took away its time slow thing because I used a proper shotgun with Mass Effect 2.
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Feb 15, 2016 09:45
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Alain Post posted:I think both the ending of Mass Effect 3, and this thread, kick rear end. 
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Feb 15, 2016 10:02
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I do not fear Mass Effect 3, and therefore love it.
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Feb 15, 2016 10:46
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But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved The Ending.
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Feb 15, 2016 10:59
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why did Legion set that big ol' Geth dreadnought to explode anyway like Legion my dude, that thing appears to be the size of a small planet, it perhaps might be useful in soaking up a few Reaper blasts during the final battle you could have just turned the power off you stupid robot
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Feb 15, 2016 15:31
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Jesus Christ, this squad AI in ME2. "Get behind cover". "Okay". "Hey, you're ten feet away from us, you want us to join you? Now we're stuck in the open and won't take directions!"
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Feb 15, 2016 15:37
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Just beat ME2 again and making my way through 3. I don't care about the ending, or 3 not living up to expectations, as long as I get to hang out with my sweet rear end crew and finish it all off with a big rear end party, I'll play these games over and over.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:06
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Spikeguy posted:as long as I get to hang out with my sweet rear end crew and finish it all off with a big rear end party, I'll play these games over and over. This is the audience Bioware is targeting now, and it's drat sad.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:08
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sassassin posted:This is the audience Bioware is targeting now, and it's drat sad. oh come on
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Feb 15, 2016 18:20
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Charlie Mopps posted:I hated the ending and yet i already know i will buy Andromeda. Just like i always buy a new Football Manager game at release, even though for the past 10 years or so it has never been playable for the first six months due to all kinds of bugs. If MEA gets even marginally good reviews I'll snap it up in a heartbeat.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:30
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Pattonesque posted:oh come on something something patrick weekes jessica alba post God, I dislike Patrick Weekes.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:39
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sassassin posted:This is the audience Bioware is targeting now, and it's drat sad. Good. It's either target him or the Tali sweat boys
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Feb 15, 2016 18:42
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I don't know if we'll ever get it, but I feel like the Universe they set up could support other genres. Some of those classes would fit nicely in a character action game. Or a Telltale style detective series playing as a C-Sec detective.
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Feb 15, 2016 18:47
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Lt. Danger posted:something something patrick weekes jessica alba post it was extremely messed up
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Feb 15, 2016 18:48
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It won't happen, but I am hoping for DAO quality writing and character arcs for MEA. Along with a conclusion that actually has something to do with the choices you made in the previous 40 hours. Also, if you haven't played DAO, you should. It's awesome.
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Feb 15, 2016 19:16
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I kind of think the opposite - I mean without the citadel and the spectres and yoomanity and so on, how is it Mass Effect? May as well start a new IP, though I know that's a terrible marketing idea.
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Feb 15, 2016 19:20
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Oh look, 300 new posts, maybe there is new info about Andromeda Welp. If Dragon Age Inquisition is any indication, I doubt there will be much difference in regards to storyline quality to nu-Effect (is that the nickname for ME:A?). It will be better than ME3, probably. However, Bioware seems too stuck in their type of storytelling and I doubt that will raise the bar (even if it is *their* bar). Playing Witcher 3 currently and holy gently caress, if Bioware and Bethesda are their main competition in that department, the Poles are beating the crap out of them currently.
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Witcher 3 is god tier.
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