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anthonypants posted:maybe it's different in europe, but in america corporate taxes and private/individual taxes are two entirely different things I assume it's the same there, but Stux posted:they were trying to prove a point and he proved it better than if he had just told them.
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the point is that rich people are pieces of poo poo, and it's a good one
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St Evan Echoes posted:the point is that rich people are pieces of poo poo, and it's a good one
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anthonypants posted:you can just say you don't know The UK's tax laws probably allow for goog and others to not pay as much in taxes as the public thinks they should based on the publics very poor understanding of the tax code. This is a labououour party member so she's trying to score points by making the guy look bad instead of actually trying to find tax fraud. The reality is there is no tax fraud happening and goog is just using the laws as written
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anthonypants posted:maybe it's different in europe, but in america corporate taxes and private/individual taxes are two entirely different things you cant be this stupid. the point is if he gets paid an insane amount, his ability to be paid that much depends at least somewhat on how little tax the corp pays, leaving more to pay him with. by refusing to answer, hes basically said "ridiculous bux", so he proved their point even better than if he'd just answered like "2 million", which is high but not "i got paid the 30% of profits that should have been taxes" high.
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hes trying to avoid being nailed down on a specific figure which is correct. they already know how much he makes and they just want him to say it cause they're lovely politicians who want to make him look bad instead of doing their jobs and fixing the laws if the actually think the laws are bad (they don't).
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:you cant be this stupid. the point is if he gets paid an insane amount, his ability to be paid that much depends at least somewhat on how little tax the corp pays, leaving more to pay him with. by refusing to answer, hes basically said "ridiculous bux", so he proved their point even better than if he'd just answered like "2 million", which is high but not "i got paid the 30% of profits that should have been taxes" high.
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Shaggar posted:hes trying to avoid being nailed down on a specific figure which is correct. they already know how much he makes and they just want him to say it cause they're lovely politicians who want to make him look bad instead of doing their jobs and fixing the laws if the actually think the laws are bad (they don't). they actually do but aren't in power currently. labour is headed by a very socialist rn
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:you cant be this stupid. the point is if he gets paid an insane amount, his ability to be paid that much depends at least somewhat on how little tax the corp pays, leaving more to pay him with. by refusing to answer, hes basically said "ridiculous bux", so he proved their point even better than if he'd just answered like "2 million", which is high but not "i got paid the 30% of profits that should have been taxes" high. In what country do people get paid in after tax profit?
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Ochowie posted:In what country do people get paid in after tax profit? in my naive brainworld where laws arent structured to maximize ceo bonuses.
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in what country are you guys so thick let me paint a newspaper article in your imagination "paying the least possible taxes is in our rational self-interest you see. you guys need to read ayn rand" said 10-million-pounds-a-year google honcho matt britta, who arrived in his yacht. two blocks away elizabeth jones who has contributed her time and money to improve her community on countless occasions waits in her hospital bed for her meds to be approved by the health service. "the doctor says theyre really tight on money since all the tech companies started with their tax trickery. i pray every day and i know theyre doing their best but i dont know how much longer my kidneys will hold up" she says while drinking a cuppa tea from her worlds best grandma mug. 1000 such treatments could be paid with one month of brittas compensation. a compensation surely made possible by google offloading their share of the burden to every man woman and child in britain who just went through a 6% tax hike on january 1st
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anthonypants posted:arguing that higher taxes mean the loving president of the company gets paid less is some insane bizarro universe bullshit
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:in my naive brainworld where laws arent structured to maximize ceo bonuses. It has nothing to do with maximizing CEO bonuses. Taxes are paid on income, not revenues. The same is true for personal income taxes. You don't pay income tax on your raw wage, you pay it on the raw wage less qualifying deductions. If you want to talk about capping the amount of a single employees compensation that can be deductible, that's one thing but to say the law is such that it exclusively benefits the CEO is not true, and unless you've never taken a tax deduction in your life, hypocritical. poty posted:in what country are you guys so thick No I totally get the image that line of questioning was designed to conjure up.
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St Evan Echoes posted:the point is that rich people are pieces of poo poo, and it's a good one
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add another one to the google graveyard http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/12/google-is-finally-killing-picasa/?ncid=rss
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cremnob posted:add another one to the google graveyard
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it would give me pleasure if kevin would update his goddamn website for once
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The examples try to hide the <style> epic on one long line but is definitely there, it is a CSS masterpiece to fade in on load.
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Stux posted:they actually do but aren't in power currently. labour is headed by a very socialist rn the laws existed when labouououououour was in power and they probably added their own to the pile
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:you cant be this stupid. the point is if he gets paid an insane amount, his ability to be paid that much depends at least somewhat on how little tax the corp pays, leaving more to pay him with. by refusing to answer, hes basically said "ridiculous bux", so he proved their point even better than if he'd just answered like "2 million", which is high but not "i got paid the 30% of profits that should have been taxes" high. lol Shaggar posted:The UK's tax laws probably allow for goog and others to not pay as much in taxes as the public thinks they should based on the publics very poor understanding of the tax code. This is a labououour party member so she's trying to score points by making the guy look bad instead of actually trying to find tax fraud. Shaggar posted:hes trying to avoid being nailed down on a specific figure which is correct. they already know how much he makes and they just want him to say it cause they're lovely politicians who want to make him look bad instead of doing their jobs and fixing the laws if the actually think the laws are bad (they don't). this is correct
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as expected, nest is a complete failure We're hearing about troubles at Nest, the smart home company Google bought for $3.2 billion http://www.businessinsider.com/whats-going-on-at-nest-2016-2
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ecobee still doin gr8
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quote:Three former Nest employees independently brought up this same anecdote when describing how Nest had an internal culture where it was "always crunch time" because of unrealistic deadlines and a hierarchical management structure. everyone I know at nest says this.
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i only know one person who worked at nest within 3-4 months of starting they left for apple
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LOL great comments in the HN thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11105510quote:I worked there. It was literally the worst experience of my career - and I have worked at all of the hardest charging blue chips and two successful startups - so it is not about high expectations - but abuse. I still wake up with something like PTSD occasionally from getting yelled at and bullied by Tony Fadell almost literally every day while I was there.
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one day people will realize that u can take the apple employee out of apple, but u cant replicate the success because the competencies and skills are institutional and ingrained in apple's culture
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im glad that Apple purged itself of abusive bosses like Fadell, Forstall and Jobs. setting a good example for the rest of the industry
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lmao (turn your sound down) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsMkLaEiOY
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quote:With the nest, which is downstairs, when we're cold, we turn the nest up, we get weird "+2 hour" things, and nothing happens. I think this is covered in the docs that certain HVAC systems should not be toggled on-off-on within a certain time period and the Nest enforces a delay to not destroy your equipment. Nest is one of those companies I wonder what they're doing as the hardware is already out there, they didn't develop a new camera they bought DropCam.
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THC posted:im glad that Apple purged itself of abusive bosses like Fadell, Forstall and Jobs. setting a good example for the rest of the industry
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anthonypants posted:lmao (turn your sound down) The third version of the Nest Protect allegedly fixes this by adding more and more sensors. Yay, so what do I do with my 1st gen Protect? Great.
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THC posted:stand by for trolls glorifying workplace abuse because hurr durr glorious iron ruler stebe would never approve a less-than-perfect design
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