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Actually, thinking about it, I'm not sure the regular cataphractii arm will fit easily without a good amount of work either. I'll double-check later today, but I'm pretty sure the praetor's body has some of those tassle things built into it and the regular arm has those molded on it too. Even that would take a lot of trimming. You'd also have to account for the odd shape of the torso/arm contact point. I don't know what to recommend at this point. Character models can sometimes be a bitch to work with.
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panascope posted:Their only real bad units are Abaddon and Loken. 10,000 years later, he's just as bad
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On paper Abaddon doesn't seem godawful, just less of a head-to-head combat monster than a vanilla Paragon Blade Praetor. He's essentially a Tartaros Praetor with an Iron Halo and MC powerfist (MSRP 170), which is all pretty reasonable, and then he went out and got a Grenade Harness and an off-hand power sword for some reason, and then he's +1 WS, Precision Strike (prolly irrelevant), Teleporter Assault (prolly irrelevant) and most importantly Fearless for 215 total. I'm considering eventually getting him to lead a blob at bigger games since unlike Maloghurst he wouldn't slow them down. Plus he's got a sweet model. He'd be less attractive if I expected to play with Relics, though.
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I've found it easy to use a dremel or drill to make a dent in the BAC Cataphracti chain fist and it makes a curve, I left the power pack thing and then attached the power weapon, I'll post my Lernean tomorrow when I get back home.
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DO IT TO IT posted:Cool, thanks. The sword arm I have is the terminator power sword arm from the 40k Company Veterans kit; it's what I planned to replace the chainfist with. But if it's easier to use the power sword arm that comes in BaC, I'll do that and give this sword to the BaC Terminator Sergeant. You can keep the chain fist arm and just either swap out the hand at the fist or utilise the fist and just remove the chainfist part. If you want to completely change out the arm you can but best bet is to do that by cutting away the current arm just below where the tassels are. I was lazy and wanted the holding the weapon over the shoulder look anyway so went with just removing the chainfist part and drilling into his current hand. 
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Sulecrist posted:On paper Abaddon doesn't seem godawful, just less of a head-to-head combat monster than a vanilla Paragon Blade Praetor. He's essentially a Tartaros Praetor with an Iron Halo and MC powerfist (MSRP 170), which is all pretty reasonable, and then he went out and got a Grenade Harness and an off-hand power sword for some reason, and then he's +1 WS, Precision Strike (prolly irrelevant), Teleporter Assault (prolly irrelevant) and most importantly Fearless for 215 total. I'm considering eventually getting him to lead a blob at bigger games since unlike Maloghurst he wouldn't slow them down. Plus he's got a sweet model. I think the problem is that he's just not really good at anything. He doesn't have enough attacks to slay blobs of dudes, if you attack with the power fist you're in danger of dying to some schmuck with a paragon blade, he doesn't make Terminators troops, and his warlord trait is godawful. Fearless is dope though, so is not being slowed down by the Terminator armor. For 215 points, though, it just seems like you should be getting more.
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Killer_Bees! posted:You can keep the chain fist arm and just either swap out the hand at the fist or utilise the fist and just remove the chainfist part. If you want to completely change out the arm you can but best bet is to do that by cutting away the current arm just below where the tassels are. Yeah, judging by what people have said and the pictures I've seen, I think I'm going to just remove the extended chainsaw part and replace the hand with a hand holding a sword, similar to what you did there pretty much. Seems like the easiest path.
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Heeeey here we go, plastic heresy rumors from one of the last non-poo poo sources!quote:This is main studio. It is in hard plastic and the miniatures can be used in 40K without conversions. And it has nothing to do with the idiots at BOLS, in terms of expected contents. Please be plastic Mk3 breachers.
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If it's usable in 40k it's probably not breachers. Mk3-6 Assault marines? A vehicle or two?
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Get in boys. Just finishing the bodies for these flamer marines, awaiting the arrival of more Heresy-era flamers to give them their weaponry. Then I just need to get a dreadclaw, 5 command squad men, and 2 rhinos and I'm finished with my 1500 and 2000 pt forces. 2500pts will just be a Leviathan added in to represent cassian dracos.
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Feb 16, 2016 15:27
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Rulebook Heavily posted:If it's usable in 40k it's probably not breachers. Mk3-6 Assault marines? A vehicle or two? Plastic Sicarans. Plastic Mk3. Please, Allfather, hear my prayers.
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Feb 16, 2016 15:59
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Plastic Sicarans. Plastic Outriders. Just plastic everything, guys come on now.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:If it's usable in 40k it's probably not breachers. Mk3-6 Assault marines? A vehicle or two? I just want some Mk3, and then the two most popular marks will have plastic models. Plastic Sicaran would own.
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I don't see a plastic Sicaran fitting in another boxed game like Calth. I'd love one, but that'll have to be a separate release. Give me plastic MkII and plastic dickbikes, please.
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I actually just hope it has a Rhino in it, haha. But Outriders would be great.
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Plastic bikes would just be incredible.
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Maybe it's a predator! Speaking of, I figured out that a Blood Angels predator with twin-linked iliastus Assault Cannons as a main weapon, iliastus side sponsons and a pintle-mounted iliastus only costs 120 points. Maybe it's a predator! 
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Seriously, it's absolutely disgusting how many assault cannons blood angels can field.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Maybe it's a predator! Dark Angels can't get their acid heavy bolter rounds on anything but models with the LA(DA) rule and dreadnoughts so vehicles are out. I totally would've run some cheap acid predators otherwise. I'd expect BA to get a similar rules treatment where models with LA(BA) can swap heavy flamers for assault cannons, but vehicles can't with the exception of the predator's turret or a dreadnought's ranged arm. As-is, a dreadnought could take two close combat arms each with an underslung assault cannon.
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A 10 man heavy weapons team all with assault cannons is only like 230. For 40 shots. Although dark angels do the same trick with acid bolters for the same price. gently caress shrapnel bolts.
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Hencoe posted:A 10 man heavy weapons team all with assault cannons is only like 230. It's still pretty ridiculous.
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Safety Factor posted:135+(5*20)+(10*5) = 285 I can't let math get in the way of me being bitter. Also tried out leviathans in both 30k and the relic ones in 40k. They are cool as hell but still seem sooooo expensive. Hencoe fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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Feb 16, 2016 23:21
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Hencoe posted:A 10 man heavy weapons team all with assault cannons is only like 230. Have fun rolling for each one individually because of the mishap rule! e: I mean theoretically I think the "must take units with Legiones Astartes for every vehicle" rule is meant to curb this but nope. Nope. It just doesn't.
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Hencoe posted:gently caress shrapnel bolts.
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Hencoe posted:I can't let math get in the way of me being bitter. Hencoe posted:Also tried out leviathans in both 30k and the relic ones in 40k.
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The Leviathan is a bit overpriced, but it's a motherfucker and can go toe to toe with knights and some primarchs. It wants to be in melee so you'll only ever bring one ranged arm. As for a melee weapon, the claw edges out on the drill for MC and character hunting while the drill will take down knights. I5 on the charge at strength 8x2 is pretty scary not to mention 4 attacks and two hammers of wraths that will instant kill you. For ranged weapons the grav bombard is scary for TEQ, bikes, artillery (they auto-wound models without strength values), and skimmers. Against heavy armor it's not good. The autocannon is good for light armor and woodchipping marines, but probably the weakest option. The melta lance has only 3 shots, but against rear armour it can do mean things. Phosphex is a good choice and the arms have built in melta guns. The nipples could go either way, but I'd probably stick with the flamers. With a drop pod these things are tough to deal with since they must be dealt with and are guaranteed to get some nasty mid ranged shooting off before return fire hits them. They also can stand inside the pod- so they plop down, don't scatter, shoot their weapons, and then your opponent must blow up their shrouded transport before dealing with the AV13 4HP 4++ rear end in a top hat inside. The major weakness is range, which the pod mitigates, and getting tied up in a tarpit. Deredeos are solid and one of the best support units for a Legion army. Autocannons and missile launchers are probably the best kit, but if they drop the cost of the plasma arms and make the invulnerable upgrade affect whole units instead of models I could see it being just as effective.
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Seconding the Dodo, its probably the best multi purpose AA/AT unit in the game, both 30k and 40k.
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Tried out Perturabo and his command squad of iron circle today, it's a stupid unit that refuses to die even when it's getting pelted with a fellblade; demo cannons, and a 10 man squad of salamander termies and a 10 man fire drake squad. (Over the course of the game) I lost 1 robot and had 1 at half from the original 4 bot unit. Goddamn it's expensive and they should have really given them 3 attacks.
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After building a Scorpius yesterday I realized that I really hate hybrid kits and I now know why Bulbasaur takes forever . That aside I love the model and look forward to painting and playing it.
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Hey fluff-experts, do we have any confirmation on whether or not the wolves used Sicarans?
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DJ Dizzy posted:Hey fluff-experts, do we have any confirmation on whether or not the wolves used Sicarans? That's actually a good question in light of their limited & alternative arsenal, but we don't know what that entails yet. Are you building some 30k wolves? e. As expected, the Domitar's up.  Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Feb 19, 2016 |
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Mango Polo posted:That's actually a good question in light of their limited & alternative arsenal, but we don't know what that entails yet. Are you building some 30k wolves? I would be doing wolves if I knew what sort of units they could take  I will be doing wolves when their book is released.
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I will be shocked if you loose access to generic legion stuff. Why would space wolves get such special treatment and nobody else?Mango Polo posted:That's actually a good question in light of their limited & alternative arsenal, but we don't know what that entails yet. Are you building some 30k wolves? Dang. That's a cool robot. I wonder what I could proxy it for? The domitar rules are just 'ok'
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BULBASAUR posted:I will be shocked if you loose access to generic legion stuff. Why would space wolves get such special treatment and nobody else? Cortus 'naughts.
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BULBASAUR posted:Dang. That's a cool robot. I wonder what I could proxy it for? The domitar rules are just 'ok'. I can't have ok units in my army. Only min/maxed super armies. Also I'm gay
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BULBASAUR posted:I will be shocked if you loose access to generic legion stuff. Why would space wolves get such special treatment and nobody else? FW said so at the weekender.
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Unique special rules it only took 5 years to develop: Space Wolves
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DJ Dizzy posted:FW said so at the weekender. Ayup. Very vague: Some of the generic armoury will/might not be available; replaced by unique versions that fulfill the same purpose. Pretty clear: There's some big changes in the Consuls section.Not pointed out which ones, but it's pretty obvious Runepriests will replace Librarians, and probably Wolf/Iron Priests.
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