Working in IT 3.0: xp_cmdshell

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hihifellow: Jun 17, 2005; seriously where the fuck did this genre come from

Mudfly posted:

Which areas of IT involve you with people?

Do any areas involve a bit of socialising while you work? While I've always been good with technical/mathematical things I like people and I'm happier in a social job. I guess on one side you have programming all day, and I imagine being on the phone as an internet service provider tech support officer would get a bit lonely if they're just constantly angry or frustrated with you.

Look for deskside, desktop, or level 2 support roles. If you can prove in an interview that you're good at working with end users and aren't a social leper you'll have managers begging you to work for them.

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Bigass Moth: Mar 6, 2004; I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.

he knows...

Basic social skills will show people hiring you that you can be put in front of a customer. If you're a sweaty antisocial goon it is a lot harder to get to a position where people want to interact and give you more responsibility.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 15:32

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Oh my god, the loving idiot piece of gently caress poo poo in the office across the hall came to work with a full-blown flu virus, if I get sick now I'm going to actually commit homicide

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:08

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

CLAM DOWN posted:

Oh my god, the loving idiot piece of gently caress poo poo in the office across the hall came to work with a full-blown flu virus, if I get sick now I'm going to actually commit homicide

At least you have an office. Cubes are like a million times worse for that.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:10

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

KillHour posted:

At least you have an office. Cubes are like a million times worse for that.

For sure, I can shut my door and avoid a lot of it but like any office we have a lot of internal air circulation and even though I know nothing about the science of the influenza virus spreading I'm still paranoid

If you're sick just goddamn stay home, we work in IT, you can remote in and do a lot of work that way

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:13

MF_James: May 8, 2008; I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

CLAM DOWN posted:

For sure, I can shut my door and avoid a lot of it but like any office we have a lot of internal air circulation and even though I know nothing about the science of the influenza virus spreading I'm still paranoid

If you're sick just goddamn stay home, we work in IT, you can remote in and do a lot of work that way

I'm fairly certain the flu virus can not live long enough in the open air to spread through vents. I'm not entirely sure though and I'm too lazy to google.

But I DO agree the guy should just poo poo/barf his brains out at home.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:14

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

at least you're in canada where getting sick isn't a massive bill

my boss had a kidney transplant so anyone who comes in sick gets yelled at. one of the only times he raises his voice

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:16

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

CLAM DOWN posted:

For sure, I can shut my door and avoid a lot of it but like any office we have a lot of internal air circulation and even though I know nothing about the science of the influenza virus spreading I'm still paranoid

If you're sick just goddamn stay home, we work in IT, you can remote in and do a lot of work that way

God bless living in a country where you are actively punished for doing so. I'm not particularly familiar with your office, but most places I've been, staying home because you're sick is bad for your career.

Edit: Oh yeah, you're up North. I forgot. Tell that idiot to go home.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:18

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

KillHour posted:

God bless living in a country where you are actively punished for doing so. I'm not particularly familiar with your office, but most places I've been, staying home because you're sick is bad for your career.

Edit: Oh yeah, you're up North. I forgot. Tell that idiot to go home.

Haha goddamn that would be awful, no we have like 15 sick days/year at my company (the norm is usually 10-15), and if you work from home you don't even necessarily have to use one.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:24

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

Yeah... Most places in the US also have 10-15 days a year. Except it's shared with your vacation pool. And you get in trouble if you don't give like a week's notice before using it. :911:

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Cthulhuite: Mar 22, 2007; Shwmae!

Infinite sick days here :smug:

I still only take like two a year though, if I'm sick I just work from home where I can drink a poo poo-ton of soup and wear a blanket.

But on the flipside some rear end in a top hat will still come in coughing and sneezing, then proceed to knock out 4 of our 9 IT staff the next week. We have infinite sickdays for a reason, jackass!

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:27

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

KillHour posted:

Yeah... Most places in the US also have 10-15 days a year. Except it's shared with your vacation pool. And you get in trouble if you don't give like a week's notice before using it.

But...how do you know in advance that you'll be sick :psyduck:

and sharing sick days with your vacation pool is just :lol:

In other news I have successfully made the sick rear end in a top hat go home, and I have gotten out the sanitizer spray for all surfaces he was near :|

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:35

Japanese Dating Sim: Nov 12, 2003; hehe; Lipstick Apathy

10 hours of sick & vacation (separate pools) a month, plus like 3.5 weeks of holiday, 2 of which happen for Christmas/New Years. I hate and love working for a state government.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:36

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

I can't use sick days. Every sick day I don't use rolls into a big thing that allows me to retire early. If I work 30 years I'll be able to retire 3 years early with full benefits.

I earn 3 or 4 comp days a month from being on call / any extra work I do, so I never need sick days

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:37

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

CLAM DOWN posted:

But...how do you know in advance that you'll be sick

and sharing sick days with your vacation pool is just

In other news I have successfully made the sick rear end in a top hat go home, and I have gotten out the sanitizer spray for all surfaces he was near :|

You just go to work anyways.

Edit: Unless you're so sick you need to be in the hospital. Then you go on short term disability (if your company offers it) and make 60% of your salary until you're better. If your company doesn't offer short term disability, they just fire you for not showing up.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:40

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

CLAM DOWN posted:

Oh my god, the loving idiot piece of gently caress poo poo in the office across the hall came to work with a full-blown flu virus, if I get sick now I'm going to actually commit homicide

B-b-but look how hard working and dedicated he is, what a hero

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:41

Japanese Dating Sim: Nov 12, 2003; hehe; Lipstick Apathy

Oh, neat. You can do per-monitor scaling in Windows 10.

Sorry, Surface Book dude, you don't get two brand new monitors to go along with your overpriced (admittedly kinda cool) laptop if I can get scaling working right.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 18:55

SyNack Sassimov: May 4, 2006; Let the robot win.
��--Captain James T. Vader

CLAM DOWN posted:

But...how do you know in advance that you'll be sick

and sharing sick days with your vacation pool is just

In other news I have successfully made the sick rear end in a top hat go home, and I have gotten out the sanitizer spray for all surfaces he was near :|

Dude, the "ho ho ho I'm a Canadian what's all these wacky :911:

vacation hijinx" shtick got old a couple hundred pages ago. We get it, you live in a sensible country that doesn't regard its workers as so much grist for the mill. You don't have to keep harping on so we feel extra bad about how much employers in this country generally screw over their employees. Go get a free knee replacement or something and stop posting about it. :argh:

# ? Feb 15, 2016 22:48

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

I have 2 weeks paid vacation and a week of sick leave in the us :shrug:

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crunk dork: Jan 15, 2006

i've got 0 PTO period and dont get paid for any holidays either as a federal contractor :911:

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CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Potato Alley posted:

Dude, the "ho ho ho I'm a Canadian what's all these wacky vacation hijinx" shtick got old a couple hundred pages ago. We get it, you live in a sensible country that doesn't regard its workers as so much grist for the mill. You don't have to keep harping on so we feel extra bad about how much employers in this country generally screw over their employees. Go get a free knee replacement or something and stop posting about it.

Nah, I didn't start that, and as long as things like that keep being brought up from an american standpoint in this thread I'm fully justified in responding with the Canadian standpoint

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mewse: May 2, 2006

Potato Alley posted:

Dude, the "ho ho ho I'm a Canadian what's all these wacky vacation hijinx" shtick got old a couple hundred pages ago. We get it, you live in a sensible country that doesn't regard its workers as so much grist for the mill. You don't have to keep harping on so we feel extra bad about how much employers in this country generally screw over their employees. Go get a free knee replacement or something and stop posting about it.

Agreed, please keep this thread American so I don't have to read this garbage about other countries

# ? Feb 15, 2016 22:59

Japanese Dating Sim: Nov 12, 2003; hehe; Lipstick Apathy

CLAM DOWN posted:

Nah, I didn't start that, and as long as things like that keep being brought up from an american standpoint in this thread I'm fully justified in responding with the Canadian standpoint

Our military can beat up your military. :smugdog:

# ? Feb 15, 2016 23:08

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

Our military can beat up your military.

100% accurate

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MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

Kashuno posted:

I have 2 weeks paid vacation and a week of sick leave in the us

Congrats. A lot of people don't. Just because things are fine for some doesn't mean they're fine.

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psydude: Apr 1, 2008

I think we can all agree that Canada is much worse at producing musicians. Although they are much better at producing comedians.

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Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Congrats. A lot of people don't. Just because things are fine for some doesn't mean they're fine.

Yeah it's definitely a nice thing to have that amount of time off, but the combined vacation/sick days pool sounds crazy to me. Even my shithole call center job didn't do that.

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psydude: Apr 1, 2008

We let people WFH on sick days, so it's not too bad.

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anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

psydude posted:

I think we can all agree that Canada is much worse at producing musicians. Although they are much better at producing comedians.

This is IT, you're gonna get a ton of people yelling at you about Rush.

# ? Feb 15, 2016 23:39

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

anthonypants posted:

This is IT, you're gonna get a ton of people yelling at you about Rush.

Yeah but Neil Peart was a huge objectivist so he was probably more at home here in the land of Ron Paul, anyway.

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FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Haha, I negotiated for unlimited sick days where I work in Michigan. Most people here get 2 weeks of vacation/5 days of sick, anything after 5 days of sick get's taken from vacation. I told them that if I am sick I am staying home and gently caress no I am not taking any of my sick out of vacation.

They recanted on that policy for me might quick. :smug:

# ? Feb 15, 2016 23:42

Judge Schnoopy: Nov 2, 2005; dont even TRY it, pal

Working for a credit union, salary employees have to share hr policies with hourly tellers. Hourly entry level folks can't possibly be provided with top end benefits so salary doesn't get them either! 5 sick days, 2 personal days, 10 vacation days, active after the first 6 months of employment so if you're sick right off the bat you better just suck it up or take unpaid time.

Of course our IT manager is reasonable and lets us work from home to protect our time.

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Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

2 weeks vacation and as much sick time as needed for my guys. if they show up sick and in turn get me sick i will kill them and dump their body down a well.

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Swink: Apr 18, 2006; Left Side <--- Many Whelps

Through to second round of interviews. Interesting company, local commute. Holy poo poo I hope they can meet my salary requirements.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

I work in Texas from home. If I'm sick it doesn't matter. My commute is either the 3 feet from bed to laptop or the 50 feet to my home office. I wear pajamas and a bathrobe for my attire and occasionally I'll put a shirt on if it's a video conference call. I'm also in the top 10% of my income bracket in city I live in.

I travel on the companies dime once a month which allows me to see other cities and sometimes countries.

Ask me anything. I won't answer though cause I'm too big living the good life.

# ? Feb 16, 2016 07:28

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

jaegerx posted:

I work in Texas from home. If I'm sick it doesn't matter. My commute is either the 3 feet from bed to laptop or the 50 feet to my home office. I wear pajamas and a bathrobe for my attire and occasionally I'll put a shirt on if it's a video conference call. I'm also in the top 10% of my income bracket in city I live in.

I travel on the companies dime once a month which allows me to see other cities and sometimes countries.

Ask me anything. I won't answer though cause I'm too big living the good life.

Fly to Vancouver so I can shovel shots down your dumb throat

# ? Feb 16, 2016 07:38

Casull: Aug 13, 2005

I'm currently a jack-of-all-trades sysadmin and I'm not sure where I want to be next. (Those who hang out in #bofh hear me whine all the time.) My job's pretty good now and I'm enjoying it now that we've expanded our team, but at the same time I'm not sure what I want to do next. Currently, I enjoy scripting in Python and automating a ton of poo poo for our engineers. I've also been leaning away from Windows, and I don't think I want to do anything with that in the future.

Part of my eventual goals are to be able to WFH so I can move out of the Bay Area and still make near-Bay-Area wages. I don't know if I can get something like that in the next job, but maybe the next gig after.

Any ideas?

# ? Feb 16, 2016 07:53

jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

Casull posted:

I'm currently a jack-of-all-trades sysadmin and I'm not sure where I want to be next. (Those who hang out in #bofh hear me whine all the time.) My job's pretty good now and I'm enjoying it now that we've expanded our team, but at the same time I'm not sure what I want to do next. Currently, I enjoy scripting in Python and automating a ton of poo poo for our engineers. I've also been leaning away from Windows, and I don't think I want to do anything with that in the future.

Part of my eventual goals are to be able to WFH so I can move out of the Bay Area and still make near-Bay-Area wages. I don't know if I can get something like that in the next job, but maybe the next gig after.

Any ideas?

Openstack dev

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