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Lightning Lord posted:Have any of you ever had any problems with stores or people flipping out over proxy use in casual play like EDH? I'm not even talking about Chinese fakes, I mean obvious stuff like printed proxies or Champion Edition or Worlds cards? Some people get annoyed if the EDH deck is proxying blatantly powerful things.
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A big flaming stink posted:Some people get annoyed if the EDH deck is proxying blatantly powerful things. I've never understood that about gold border cards, it's not like they're ultra cheap. Tropical Island is still $80.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:35
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A big flaming stink posted:Some people get annoyed if the EDH deck is proxying blatantly powerful things. Some people need to chill the hell out and have some fun.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:35
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WOTC semi-officially acknowledges Vendor Gate: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/daily-magic-update/update-2016-02-16 quote:But what about those other rumors, the more insidious ones? Please rest assured we have a lot of people working very hard to address some of the more concerning ones. We take all of this very seriously and will address what we can. Look for a statement on this very website soon.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:40
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Some people need to chill the hell out and have some fun. Competitive Elder Dragon Highlander
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Feb 16, 2016 22:42
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born on a buy you posted:WOTC semi-officially acknowledges Vendor Gate: Coming soon: TrickMTG post on reddit about how vendors ruin Magic. Followed by a better post by Helene Bergeot that clarifies the role that vendors play, what information they are given, and how much attention they pay to the secondary market. Joke option: "gently caress the reserve list, we're keeping all cards in print with a special xpac symbol, you can order through someone competent with online, they're affiliated with us though"
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Feb 16, 2016 22:47
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I get my proxies from this binder right here. gimme that binder and a proxy Transmute Artifact then
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Feb 16, 2016 22:49
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A big flaming stink posted:Some people get annoyed if the EDH deck is proxying blatantly powerful things. This typically happens when people are building EDH decks on a limited budget / using the community average budget to limit the power of their decks, but yeah typically people do not give a poo poo about proxies if you're testing or playing casual. Any time you're playing casual magic there is always a level of chill required and you kind of need to either drop down to the power level that other people are playing on (borrow a deck or build something more budget / theme oriented and less hardcore spike), or find a way to lift them up to your level (donations, allow and encourage proxies, or build a bunch of powerful decks that you loan, etc). I used to get super annoyed when my buddy had a proxy playset of noble hierarchs in his otherwise non-proxy casual deck, but that was only because every loving time he cast one he would start talking about how expensive they are in I think an effort to justify to himself why he was proxying. Meanwhile I had plenty of expensive decks at the time but was frequently playing EHD with him with a deck that was like 80% black and white printouts so I really didn't give a poo poo.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:04
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I get my proxies from this binder right here. who the gently caress proxies Delver of Secrets
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Feb 16, 2016 23:10
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I should get one of those four-across binders.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:12
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Everblight posted:who the gently caress proxies Delver of Secrets Seriously the list is weird. It's like they just pulled a list of popular legacy and vintage cards and had no idea about the game at all. But they stay in the binder to keep them away from the rest of my cards.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:17
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Angry Grimace posted:I would argue that fake Magic cards are still easier to get than drugs. You underestimate just how bad the modo client is.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:20
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odiv posted:I should get one of those four-across binders. It seriously looks so good. Even framing the middle card with two playsets in a normal 9-card binder doesnt' even come close.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:21
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odiv posted:I should get one of those four-across binders. They are only like 25 bucks on Amazon right now. I keep all my playsets of modern and legacy stuff in them, it makes it easy to see what's missing or what I need to buy to finish it out. Very useful. I have 3 full binders now, need to buy some more,
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Feb 16, 2016 23:24
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Which 4-across binders do people here like? I got the BCW 4x4 one which is huge but has a zipper, but there'a also the FOUR and the ultrapro one which folds up weird
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gwrtheyrn posted:Which 4-across binders do people here like? I got the BCW 4x4 one which is huge but has a zipper, but there'a also the FOUR and the ultrapro one which folds up weird I have the FOUR 2.0.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:41
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Literally The Worst posted:we've had to say no proxies in our EDH league because we sanction it as a casual event (gold border cards still allowed) but other than that no Pretty sure sanctioning an event where gold bordered cards are legal is still a no-no so you might as well just let dudes use fakes.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:43
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Snacksmaniac posted:I specced hard on ludes and it paid off, big time. Bill Cosby plays magic?
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Feb 17, 2016 00:33
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If Bill Cosby played magic, it would be rug delver
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Feb 17, 2016 00:43
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direct acknowledgementquote:We're aware of the rumors that an individual is in possession of the card list for Eternal Masters. If true, this is obviously a situation we take extremely seriously. We want to ensure that the entire Magic community knows that we DO NOT provide preferential treatment to any card vendor, distributor, or retailer; nor do we disclose detailed card set information prior to preview season.
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Feb 17, 2016 00:47
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So which region is going to lose their entire judging community organization over this new poo poo show?
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keeblerdrow posted:So which region is going to lose their entire judging community organization over this new poo poo show? If it's a vendor, it's more likely that some store would be losing their WPN affiliation.
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Feb 17, 2016 00:58
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Cactrot posted:If it's a vendor, it's more likely that some store would be losing their WPN affiliation. So which region is going to lose WPN stores?
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Feb 17, 2016 01:02
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:So which region is going to lose WPN stores? Probably USA.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:03
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If a store gets canned for leaking it then doesn't that basically confirm that vendors have massive amounts of inside info, which people were saying would be bad optics?
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Feb 17, 2016 01:07
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They do have massive amounts of inside info but it's not like wotc is going to come out and say "oh yeah we collude with vendors lmao eat my rear end players" well actually they probably could but they have no reason to
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Feb 17, 2016 01:09
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I think the most common story is that WotC as a company is innocent but people inside WotC have friends outside WotC.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:13
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Would the company as a whole benefit from collusion with vendors?
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Feb 17, 2016 01:15
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American imperialist greed is destroying our pure & innocent children's card game. I hope that Wizards, or perhaps the UN, has the fortitude to step in and do what is necessary to salvage our game for the global community.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:17
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I still think it's an employee. Since an employee who would do that is a dumbass, it's probably a D&D staffer. This might be a good opportunity to get rid of Mike Mearls.
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suicidesteve posted:I think the most common story is that WotC as a company is innocent but people inside WotC have friends outside WotC. Well yes this is obviously the case but pedantically typing "people inside of wotc" every time instead of just wotc when people can figure it out for themselves seems a bit goofy. edit: Obviously considering this means you're talking to magic players you do have to be pedantically specific but I just like to give them the rope to hang themselves with instead of stooping to that level
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Feb 17, 2016 01:19
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All I'm gonna say is that the reserve list was made during the Clinton administration. Trump 2016 - Make Legacy Great Again!
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Feb 17, 2016 01:20
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suicidesteve posted:I think the most common story is that WotC as a company is innocent but people inside WotC have friends outside WotC. sounds like a good RICO case
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konami was printing extras of money yugioh cards because htey're greed af so never put it past a company to just be dumb
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born on a buy you posted:konami was printing extras of money yugioh cards because htey're greed af so never put it past a company to just be dumb Wasn't that Upper Deck?
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Would the company as a whole benefit from collusion with vendors? Sort of. Vendors crack packs for singles and the biggest ones host events that make up the majority of all big events played. The success of WOTC has a direct correlation to the success of vendors. They have a vested interest in seeing them prosper.
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born on a buy you posted:konami was printing extras of money yugioh cards because htey're greed af so never put it past a company to just be dumb I thought that was UDE. Did Yugioh have two scandals in which the companies distributing cards were also counterfeiting?
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born on a buy you posted:konami was printing extras of money yugioh cards because htey're greed af so never put it past a company to just be dumb wotc has a history of being too loving cheap and shortsighted to invest in stuff that would make them more money so I don't think it's unfair to assume they would do anything shortsightedly greedy
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